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Post by kentgas on Aug 23, 2023 16:03:30 GMT
To be fair, most players say that, it's what they say when they leave that is more applicable. ..but a lot of players he had before at Fleetwood, and ex teammates, have joined him at Rovers. Apart from his temper, the only negative things ive heard about him from other players are the harshness of his pre season training programs Not to mention Thomas, Bogarde, Taylor, Connolly, Ward who all signed new contracts to play under him. |
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 23, 2023 16:21:05 GMT
We all know that JB has and will continue to polarise opinion. That said, there have been more than a few members of our current and past squad who have cited the manager as the main reason for being here. Love or loathe the bloke, these players really seem to buy into his work ethic. Oh to be a fly on the wall in the dressing room every week eh. Wish he would add video content behind the scenes on matchday, now that he's posting behind a pay wall. To be fair, most players say that, it's what they say when they leave that is more applicable. Look at the amount of players that follow him or come back to play for him. Just look at our squad and coaching staff. Connor Taylor, James Connolly, Sam Finley, Jordan Rossiter, Grant Ward, Luke McCormick, Lamare Bogarde, Luke Thomas, Andy Mangan, Glenn Whelan....... They've all played under him and been part of his backroom staff before either following him from Fleetwood or returning to us either permanently or on loan. I think that's enough proof that they enjoy working and playing Football under him. |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Aug 23, 2023 16:40:42 GMT
JB and JCH would be fireworks..... won't work. can't see JB putting up with JCH sulks. Not sure JCH is someone you "out" in public and he responds - can't remember what GC did to get the best out of him. Let him have a lot of leeway, as long as he kept on scoring. |
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Post by singupgas on Aug 23, 2023 18:00:44 GMT
To be fair, most players say that, it's what they say when they leave that is more applicable. Look at the amount of players that follow him or come back to play for him. Just look at our squad and coaching staff. Connor Taylor, James Connolly, Sam Finley, Jordan Rossiter, Grant Ward, Luke McCormick, Lamare Bogarde, Luke Thomas, Andy Mangan, Glenn Whelan....... They've all played under him and been part of his backroom staff before either following him from Fleetwood or returning to us either permanently or on loan. I think that's enough proof that they enjoy working and playing Football under him. JB is the draw to play for the Gas right now. The training ground is getting there, but until that Fruit Bowl Stadium is built, take JB away and I don't see us attracting the calibre of player we have done since his arrival. |
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Aug 23, 2023 18:57:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2023 18:57:22 GMT
Look at the amount of players that follow him or come back to play for him. Just look at our squad and coaching staff. Connor Taylor, James Connolly, Sam Finley, Jordan Rossiter, Grant Ward, Luke McCormick, Lamare Bogarde, Luke Thomas, Andy Mangan, Glenn Whelan....... They've all played under him and been part of his backroom staff before either following him from Fleetwood or returning to us either permanently or on loan. I think that's enough proof that they enjoy working and playing Football under him. JB is the draw to play for the Gas right now. The training ground is getting there, but until that Fruit Bowl Stadium is built, take JB away and I don't see us attracting the calibre of player we have done since his arrival. so true. When he goes we can certainly expect to go back to reserve players from Crawley as a target |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 23, 2023 18:59:53 GMT
JB is the draw to play for the Gas right now. The training ground is getting there, but until that Fruit Bowl Stadium is built, take JB away and I don't see us attracting the calibre of player we have done since his arrival. so true. When he goes we can certainly expect to go back to reserve players from Crawley as a target You say that, but there have been some fantastic players at Rovers long before Barton and there will be again. I've read that people are saying we have a great squad but how many will realistically get in to an all time Rovers squad? Genuine question as I don't know much about the current players. |
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Post by yattongas on Aug 23, 2023 19:02:22 GMT
so true. When he goes we can certainly expect to go back to reserve players from Crawley as a target You say that, but there have been some fantastic players at Rovers long before Barton and there will be again. I've read that people are saying we have a great squad but how many will realistically get in to an all time Rovers squad? Genuine question as I don't know much about the current players. At the moment probably none , come the end of the ( promotion?) season maybe 2 or 3 ? |
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Aug 23, 2023 19:05:02 GMT
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 23, 2023 19:05:02 GMT
You say that, but there have been some fantastic players at Rovers long before Barton and there will be again. I've read that people are saying we have a great squad but how many will realistically get in to an all time Rovers squad? Genuine question as I don't know much about the current players. At the moment probably none , come the end of the ( promotion?) season maybe 2 or 3 ? Fair enough. Who are your tips for the top? I'm going to assume the only Barton player likely to feature so far would be Anderson? |
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Post by yattongas on Aug 23, 2023 19:09:44 GMT
At the moment probably none , come the end of the ( promotion?) season maybe 2 or 3 ? Fair enough. Who are your tips for the top? I'm going to assume the only Barton player likely to feature so far would be Anderson? Collins if he comes good again and scores 15-20 goals. Connor Taylor , two promotions in a row ? |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Aug 23, 2023 19:16:43 GMT
At the moment probably none , come the end of the ( promotion?) season maybe 2 or 3 ? Fair enough. Who are your tips for the top? I'm going to assume the only Barton player likely to feature so far would be Anderson? Oooh, that's a tough one Hugo! There are so many big legends from the past, I can't really see any of the recent players taking their place in an all time greats team. Not sure if Anderson counts, as he was on loan - if he does, then I think he would merit a place. |
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Post by oldie on Aug 23, 2023 19:43:32 GMT
To be fair, most players say that, it's what they say when they leave that is more applicable. Look at the amount of players that follow him or come back to play for him. Just look at our squad and coaching staff. Connor Taylor, James Connolly, Sam Finley, Jordan Rossiter, Grant Ward, Luke McCormick, Lamare Bogarde, Luke Thomas, Andy Mangan, Glenn Whelan....... They've all played under him and been part of his backroom staff before either following him from Fleetwood or returning to us either permanently or on loan. I think that's enough proof that they enjoy working and playing Football under him. Then look at our win ratio since Jan 1 2023. Brilliant isn't it🤔 |
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Post by Gassy on Aug 23, 2023 19:48:11 GMT
At the moment probably none , come the end of the ( promotion?) season maybe 2 or 3 ? Fair enough. Who are your tips for the top? I'm going to assume the only Barton player likely to feature so far would be Anderson? All time is a very long time tbf. Because of the level we’ve been playing at for the last 20+ years I think Lambert is the only one who’d get close to that category in the last 20-30 years. IMO, this squad is probably the strongest in my memorable life time. On paper anyway |
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Post by toggsy2 on Aug 23, 2023 19:56:44 GMT
Look at the amount of players that follow him or come back to play for him. Just look at our squad and coaching staff. Connor Taylor, James Connolly, Sam Finley, Jordan Rossiter, Grant Ward, Luke McCormick, Lamare Bogarde, Luke Thomas, Andy Mangan, Glenn Whelan....... They've all played under him and been part of his backroom staff before either following him from Fleetwood or returning to us either permanently or on loan. I think that's enough proof that they enjoy working and playing Football under him. Then look at our win ratio since Jan 1 2023. Brilliant isn't it🤔 Period of adjustment different league to compared to league 2 The main objective was secure league 1 status which was achieved JB has since added more depth to the squad |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 23, 2023 20:05:57 GMT
Fair enough. Who are your tips for the top? I'm going to assume the only Barton player likely to feature so far would be Anderson? All time is a very long time tbf. Because of the level we’ve been playing at for the last 20+ years I think Lambert is the only one who’d get close to that category in the last 20-30 years. IMO, this squad is probably the strongest in my memorable life time. On paper anyway I understand that, and a squad of 7/10 players is better than a 5/10 squad with one 10/10 but I was originally responding to the poster seemingly suggesting that we won't be able to sign decent players post Barton as we will be back to Crawley reserves. So far, Barton hasn't actually achieved much regardlessof how much people rate his recruitment. I may look silly at the end of the season of course but as things stand he's no better than DC or even GC in terms of L1 achievements and therefore it stands to reason his player recruitment is not yet proven as superior to anyone elses. Well, not completely true, because we've had some shocking squads, but you get my point. |
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Post by Gassy on Aug 23, 2023 20:26:44 GMT
All time is a very long time tbf. Because of the level we’ve been playing at for the last 20+ years I think Lambert is the only one who’d get close to that category in the last 20-30 years. IMO, this squad is probably the strongest in my memorable life time. On paper anyway I understand that, and a squad of 7/10 players is better than a 5/10 squad with one 10/10 but I was originally responding to the poster seemingly suggesting that we won't be able to sign decent players post Barton as we will be back to Crawley reserves. So far, Barton hasn't actually achieved much regardlessof how much people rate his recruitment. I may look silly at the end of the season of course but as things stand he's no better than DC or even GC in terms of L1 achievements and therefore it stands to reason his player recruitment is not yet proven as superior to anyone elses. Well, not completely true, because we've had some shocking squads, but you get my point. Yeah I’d say it’s a fair point. One would argue that GC had the most impressive achievement (without actually achieving anything) of them all. What he did with that squad/money available to him was close to a miracle tbh. But I would also agree with the statement that Barton seems to attract a higher quality calibre/pedigree of players than we’ve had in recent years |
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Aug 23, 2023 21:05:45 GMT
Post by philrtid on Aug 23, 2023 21:05:45 GMT
so true. When he goes we can certainly expect to go back to reserve players from Crawley as a target You say that, but there have been some fantastic players at Rovers long before Barton and there will be again. I've read that people are saying we have a great squad but how many will realistically get in to an all time Rovers squad? Genuine question as I don't know much about the current players. Not a single one of them. Ask the same question in another 4 or 5 years and hopefully the answer will be a lot different. |
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Post by gasify on Aug 24, 2023 6:02:56 GMT
JB is the draw to play for the Gas right now. The training ground is getting there, but until that Fruit Bowl Stadium is built, take JB away and I don't see us attracting the calibre of player we have done since his arrival. so true. When he goes we can certainly expect to go back to reserve players from Crawley as a target Not just Crawley. Remember when we were signing reserves from Forest Green Rovers? Whatever happened to those players? |
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Aug 24, 2023 6:09:32 GMT
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Post by gasify on Aug 24, 2023 6:09:32 GMT
You say that, but there have been some fantastic players at Rovers long before Barton and there will be again. I've read that people are saying we have a great squad but how many will realistically get in to an all time Rovers squad? Genuine question as I don't know much about the current players. At the moment probably none , come the end of the ( promotion?) season maybe 2 or 3 ? Legend seems to be banded about pretty easily in the modern world that the meaning has been lost a little. Wasn't so long ago, some were calling Belshaw a legend and Collins a legend (though tbf, the traffic light climbing was quite legendary). The legends of my Rovers life only reached that status when they left the club, not at the end of a particular season. |
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Post by gasify on Aug 24, 2023 6:13:12 GMT
I understand that, and a squad of 7/10 players is better than a 5/10 squad with one 10/10 but I was originally responding to the poster seemingly suggesting that we won't be able to sign decent players post Barton as we will be back to Crawley reserves. So far, Barton hasn't actually achieved much regardlessof how much people rate his recruitment. I may look silly at the end of the season of course but as things stand he's no better than DC or even GC in terms of L1 achievements and therefore it stands to reason his player recruitment is not yet proven as superior to anyone elses. Well, not completely true, because we've had some shocking squads, but you get my point. Yeah I’d say it’s a fair point. One would argue that GC had the most impressive achievement (without actually achieving anything) of them all. What he did with that squad/money available to him was close to a miracle tbh. But I would also agree with the statement that Barton seems to attract a higher quality calibre/pedigree of players than we’ve had in recent years Or, due to the work that TG has been doing with the commercial side of things we can pay higher wages? |
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Post by rememberhalifax on Aug 24, 2023 6:53:07 GMT
so true. When he goes we can certainly expect to go back to reserve players from Crawley as a target You say that, but there have been some fantastic players at Rovers long before Barton and there will be again. I've read that people are saying we have a great squad but how many will realistically get in to an all time Rovers squad? Genuine question as I don't know much about the current players. You can ask the same question of any Rovers squad over some 100 years , doubt no one squad would dominate the best ever with 1 or 2 from here and there and plenty of very good squads with none which would not necessarily diminish the quality of that squad. |
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