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Post by wallywalters on Aug 31, 2023 18:37:54 GMT
Justin Richards springs to mind if talking about poorest strikers , can’t fault loftys effort , Would do a job for someone I’m sure , still relatively young ! Gerry Francis moulded Devon White into a prem striker don’t forget! Devon white was absolutely brilliant in the air and for a big lad had a decent first touch. Different gravy to loft. |
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 31, 2023 18:42:18 GMT
His run and dinked finish away at Port Vale was brilliant, it required skill,panache and technique. I remember the little back healed flick to set up Collins for the equaliser at home to Plymouth last season which was brilliant too. Those players I mentioned didn't have that in their lockers. He's nowhere near to being one of our worst ever players. You've named 2 things he's done in his whole time here. I'm sure you could put a you tube reel together for Dominic blizzard and find 2 pieces of skill. There's no getting around the fact loft has been poor and is a poor footballer regardless of one dinked finish and a cheeky backheel. Yeah, 2 more things than those others I mentioned ever did. He's not good enough to be part of the squad we're looking to build, no arguments there. Just saying he's nowhere near to being in our top 5 worst players ever. Even in the last few years, Luke James, Stefan Payne, James Daly, Brett Pitman are players in Loft's position that were worse. |
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Post by Gas1977 on Aug 31, 2023 18:44:54 GMT
You've named 2 things he's done in his whole time here. I'm sure you could put a you tube reel together for Dominic blizzard and find 2 pieces of skill. There's no getting around the fact loft has been poor and is a poor footballer regardless of one dinked finish and a cheeky backheel. Yeah, 2 more things than those others I mentioned ever did. He's not good enough to be part of the squad we're looking to build, no arguments there. Just saying he's nowhere near to being in our top 5 worst players ever. Even in the last few years, Luke James, Stefan Payne, James Daly, Brett Pitman are players in Loft's position that were worse. Pitman scored a few important goals. Unfair to say he’s on the level of Payne😂in fact Payne in a league of his own |
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Post by gashead79 on Aug 31, 2023 18:48:58 GMT
Well, he is a professional footballer so that means that people in the game have an opinion different to yours. He will probably go elsewhere do ok, like Telford and Nichols, and Low and undroppable Tom and Forster, and Chris the crab and Zamora. If he's deployed and played to his strengths I'm sure he'll be just fine. What are his strengths.? I genuinely havnt seen any. He can't control a ball, he isn't skillful , he doesn't win headers , he's an awful finisher and that's his job as he's a striker. What are his strengths? Il give you running and effort but I can name you 5 or 6 Sunday league players who give them the 8 odd years professional football training lofts had would run all day for you and be able to control a ball. He's quick, strong, imposing. Willing runner and a nuisance to occupy a defence. Our fans are very good at finding faults with our players. Bear in mind, regardless of your scathing review, he IS a professional player who will be getting paid next season in the 3rd or 4th tier of English football. None of our strikers have impressed thus season because we have not played in a way that brings the best from them. Do you ever remember a guy called Fernando Torres who went from Liverpool to Chelsea.. If you were unaware of his Liverpool exploits you'd think he was a fraud right.. |
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 31, 2023 18:50:12 GMT
Yeah, 2 more things than those others I mentioned ever did. He's not good enough to be part of the squad we're looking to build, no arguments there. Just saying he's nowhere near to being in our top 5 worst players ever. Even in the last few years, Luke James, Stefan Payne, James Daly, Brett Pitman are players in Loft's position that were worse. Pitman scored a few important goals. Unfair to say he’s on the level of Payne😂in fact Payne in a league of his own He did, away at Bradford was a brilliant header. His fitness was abysmal though, couldn't run, hence why he was got rid of halfway through the season, replaced by Lofty. |
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Post by wallywalters on Aug 31, 2023 19:18:14 GMT
What are his strengths.? I genuinely havnt seen any. He can't control a ball, he isn't skillful , he doesn't win headers , he's an awful finisher and that's his job as he's a striker. What are his strengths? Il give you running and effort but I can name you 5 or 6 Sunday league players who give them the 8 odd years professional football training lofts had would run all day for you and be able to control a ball. He's quick, strong, imposing. Willing runner and a nuisance to occupy a defence. Our fans are very good at finding faults with our players. Bear in mind, regardless of your scathing review, he IS a professional player who will be getting paid next season in the 3rd or 4th tier of English football. None of our strikers have impressed thus season because we have not played in a way that brings the best from them. Do you ever remember a guy called Fernando Torres who went from Liverpool to Chelsea.. If you were unaware of his Liverpool exploits you'd think he was a fraud right.. I think your missing my point. Loft tries harder than most and puts in 100% effort everytime he comes on the field. What I'm saying is as an actual footballer he's up there with the worst I've seen. His technical ability, passing, first touch ( hands down the worst I've ever seen) finishing , skill is atrocious imo. Of those just mentioned pitman Luke James and Daly were much better football players. Pitman shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath. Awful workrate and condition but a bloody good footballer. |
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Post by yattongas on Aug 31, 2023 19:20:00 GMT
He's quick, strong, imposing. Willing runner and a nuisance to occupy a defence. Our fans are very good at finding faults with our players. Bear in mind, regardless of your scathing review, he IS a professional player who will be getting paid next season in the 3rd or 4th tier of English football. None of our strikers have impressed thus season because we have not played in a way that brings the best from them. Do you ever remember a guy called Fernando Torres who went from Liverpool to Chelsea.. If you were unaware of his Liverpool exploits you'd think he was a fraud right.. I think your missing my point. Loft tries harder than most and puts in 100% effort everytime he comes on the field. What I'm saying is as an actual footballer he's up there with the worst I've seen. His technical ability, passing, first touch ( hands down the worst I've ever seen) finishing , skill is atrocious imo. Of those just mentioned pitman Luke James and Daly were much better football players. Pitman shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath. Awful workrate and condition but a bloody good footballer. Devon White had an awful first touch but he did ok for himself in the end . |
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Aug 31, 2023 19:23:21 GMT
Can't help but think Loft will go somewhere else, the new team will play to his strengths and everyone on here who's said he's not very good will be saying we never should of got rid of him!
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Post by oldie on Aug 31, 2023 19:24:35 GMT
Can't help but think Loft will go somewhere else, the new team will play to his strengths and everyone on here who's said he's not very good will be saying we never should of got rid of him! Idle speculation |
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Post by breadman1977 on Aug 31, 2023 19:26:02 GMT
Ryan loft is not a league 1 player full stop.
The bare minimum is fitness and effort for any player in any league.football has changed, anyone that compares Devon white from 1989 to football these days are deluded!
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Post by dudelebowski on Aug 31, 2023 19:27:39 GMT
Martin Cameron, Akinde, Brad Goldberg, Alvin Bubb, Alex Wall, Michele Di Piedi….get them on the list.
Agree with the above, Lofty nowhere near the worst forwards we’ve had.
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Aug 31, 2023 19:30:27 GMT
Can't help but think Loft will go somewhere else, the new team will play to his strengths and everyone on here who's said he's not very good will be saying we never should of got rid of him! Idle speculation Not really, it's all about opinions, and I actually think there's a decent striker in there if the team plays to his strengths. Being asked to chase lost causes at the end of games is enough to destroy any players confidence. |
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Post by scottleroc on Aug 31, 2023 19:35:21 GMT
I think your missing my point. Loft tries harder than most and puts in 100% effort everytime he comes on the field. What I'm saying is as an actual footballer he's up there with the worst I've seen. His technical ability, passing, first touch ( hands down the worst I've ever seen) finishing , skill is atrocious imo. Of those just mentioned pitman Luke James and Daly were much better football players. Pitman shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath. Awful workrate and condition but a bloody good footballer. Devon White had an awful first touch but he did ok for himself in the end . Christian McLean was a poor man’s Devon White bit scored a few! |
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Post by nailseamark on Aug 31, 2023 19:38:43 GMT
Ben hunt, JKD…..and I love him but Blissett wasn’t exactly a brilliant footballer. We all love him though. He’s one of the most memorable things from the conference season. And I’d have him back.
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Post by legas on Aug 31, 2023 19:41:06 GMT
Devon White had an awful first touch but he did ok for himself in the end . Christian McLean was a poor man’s Devon White bit scored a few! don’t forget Paul Nixon |
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 31, 2023 19:41:18 GMT
Martin Cameron, Akinde, Brad Goldberg, Alvin Bubb, Alex Wall, Michele Di Piedi….get them on the list. Agree with the above, Lofty nowhere near the worst forwards we’ve had. Ansah Owusu, Mousa Dagnogo, Ross Weare, Clinton Ellis,Rune Johanson, Christian Lee, Lee Matthews.......And these are all just players in Lofts position. Let alone all the sh** Defenders, Midfielders and Wingers. Like I said, he's not even in the top 50 of our worst ever players, probably not even in the top 100! |
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Post by cheamgas on Aug 31, 2023 20:21:31 GMT
Well, he is a professional footballer so that means that people in the game have an opinion different to yours. He will probably go elsewhere do ok, like Telford and Nichols, and Low and undroppable Tom and Forster, and Chris the crab and Zamora. If he's deployed and played to his strengths I'm sure he'll be just fine. What are his strengths.? I genuinely havnt seen any. He can't control a ball, he isn't skillful , he doesn't win headers , he's an awful finisher and that's his job as he's a striker. What are his strengths? Il give you running and effort but I can name you 5 or 6 Sunday league players who give them the 8 odd years professional football training lofts had would run all day for you and be able to control a ball. For a month or so last season he showed all of those strengths - good control, skilful, good vision and good finishing. Given the chance and good management he is possibly a player who could come good. However as long as we get in a better and more consistant replacement it is best that he moves on. |
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Post by willytopp84 on Aug 31, 2023 23:51:00 GMT
Martin Cameron, Akinde, Brad Goldberg, Alvin Bubb, Alex Wall, Michele Di Piedi….get them on the list. Agree with the above, Lofty nowhere near the worst forwards we’ve had. I remember getting really excited about the arrival of Michele Di Piedi after being a huge fan of Italian football 😎 Shame he was an absolute donkey. |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 1, 2023 2:12:07 GMT
Martin Cameron, Akinde, Brad Goldberg, Alvin Bubb, Alex Wall, Michele Di Piedi….get them on the list. Agree with the above, Lofty nowhere near the worst forwards we’ve had. I remember getting really excited about the arrival of Michele Di Piedi after being a huge fan of Italian football 😎 Shame he was an absolute donkey. I was also excited when we signed Bradley Allen, Chris Llewylyn, Graham Hyde and Wayne Carlisle. All ex Premier League Players, although Wayne Carlisle was pretty good, Chris Llewylyn was ok, the other 2 were absolute garbage. 2002-2004 the worst Rovers team ever |
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Post by baggins on Sept 1, 2023 5:17:34 GMT
Never left a game where Lofty played a part thinking he didn't put 100% effort in, chased everything, held it up well, used his strength. always liked the bloke but he's an easy target to blame for some I guess.
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