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Post by Claremont Gas on Nov 27, 2023 13:51:06 GMT
What is incredible is the thought that some fans believe they have the right to be told everything that is going on at the Club - We don't - We are merely observers who pay the club money so that we feel involved with day to day things.
No way will these owners tell us anything until the deed is done ....we have no right to know and it's proven that if we were told and then told not to tell anyone - We would anyway !!
All that said ... If after five weeks all they can do is appoint Bartons No 2 who is in some way partly responsible for our performances as he is one of the playing leadership team then we are in greater trouble than I thought. New Manager - New ideas I thought Ok - New Manager Same unsuccessful Ideas is Suicide.
As i have said before - Mangan is a lovely bloke and the players choice as he is their mate and that will soon erode as he has to make tough decisions BUT he is not the type of leader we are crying out for.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2023 13:58:19 GMT
Been told earlier, Mangs seen pulling into the Mem car park which can only assume is a meeting, it’s not the Quarters is it, why else would he be there 🤷🏼♂️ In many office jobs you’ll get a weekly (or fortnightly or maybe even monthly) 1-2-1 with your manager to check in on progress, discuss any concerns of either party and how things are going in general. If your manager leaves and you’re covering his responsibilities you’ll probably meet with their manager until a replacement is sorted. If Gorringe wasn’t doing something similar with Mangan then something would be wrong. Not necessarily out of the usual for Mangan to be heading to the Mem for a meeting. Good points but there are offices at the quarters so it is a little odd it’s at the Mem.
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Post by percy on Nov 27, 2023 14:11:55 GMT
They are not ready to appoint Mangan, I think most agree it would be a gamble / easy option / barton mark 2 - so most will be happy. They are looking to keep him and the rest of the coaching set up (as they communicated/suggested before Northampton game) which is making search harder/more specific
They will be looking for the right fit to come in and improve us, but not rip it all up.
Still expect a Monk or Taylor appointment, maybe a left-field foreign coach, to come in and take over and work within existing set up. Probably room for one or two changes, then re-assess in summer.
If it was me anyway......
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Post by chewbacca on Nov 27, 2023 14:12:41 GMT
It's quite funny that Andy Mangan has been in his post longer than 11 currently Football League managers.
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Post by TAGas on Nov 27, 2023 14:20:08 GMT
Could be checking the playing surface for tomorrow nights game.
Weathers changed abit the last few days 🤷♂️
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 27, 2023 15:15:05 GMT
What is incredible is the thought that some fans believe they have the right to be told everything that is going on at the Club - We don't - We are merely observers who pay the club money so that we feel involved with day to day things. No way will these owners tell us anything until the deed is done ....we have no right to know and it's proven that if we were told and then told not to tell anyone - We would anyway !! All that said ... If after five weeks all they can do is appoint Bartons No 2 who is in some way partly responsible for our performances as he is one of the playing leadership team then we are in greater trouble than I thought. New Manager - New ideas I thought Ok - New Manager Same unsuccessful Ideas is Suicide.As i have said before - Mangan is a lovely bloke and the players choice as he is their mate and that will soon erode as he has to make tough decisions BUT he is not the type of leader we are crying out for. I agree with most of that but perhaps ‘New Manager - New ideas………’ doesn’t always work. I can think of a few recent examples where that was a disaster and it led to relegation. I’m sure you can as well. And tbf to Mangan he hasn’t been the same as JB has he? As with every appointment there are no guarantees. I do know our most successful years have been under managers taking their first steps with us. I’ve no idea if the rumours on here about prospective new appointments having to keep ‘JBs team of coaches’ is true or not but if it has been a stumbling block to appointing now then allowing JB to appoint his mates was a mistake under the previous major owner. And the current owners are just trying to deal with all that stuff. UTG!
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Post by TAGas on Nov 27, 2023 15:29:58 GMT
The odds are moving again
Mangan 2/5
Taylor 7/4
Robinson 12/1
Think that's the biggest gap between 2nd 3rd favourite so far
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2023 16:49:30 GMT
Been told earlier, Mangs seen pulling into the Mem car park which can only assume is a meeting, it’s not the Quarters is it, why else would he be there 🤷🏼♂️ In many office jobs you’ll get a weekly (or fortnightly or maybe even monthly) 1-2-1 with your manager to check in on progress, discuss any concerns of either party and how things are going in general. If your manager leaves and you’re covering his responsibilities you’ll probably meet with their manager until a replacement is sorted. If Gorringe wasn’t doing something similar with Mangan then something would be wrong. Not necessarily out of the usual for Mangan to be heading to the Mem for a meeting. Offices at the Quarters and the Mem is away from the players, it could well just be his monthly/weekly review meeting. The son now also has a desk at the Quarters, Gorringe there a lot. He could have popped into the see groundsman, anything, see how the pitch was holding up with the recent rain. Just reporting back he was at the Mem this morning, appreciate your work comments, I’m in business myself, I get it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2023 16:53:41 GMT
The odds are moving again Mangan 2/5 Taylor 7/4 Robinson 12/1 Think that's the biggest gap between 2nd 3rd favourite so far Robinson won’t be getting the job
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Post by socrates on Nov 27, 2023 17:16:30 GMT
I’m surprised it’s taken this long but I’m not offended like some on here are. Why do we need a statement from the club telling us the ins and outs of what negotiations they’re going through ? We’ll find out when a manager is appointed as all fans do when this happens. I think it’s a sign of the times with the social media world we live in that everyone needs to know the ins and outs of a cats arse or they panick or become offended.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 27, 2023 17:45:19 GMT
I’m surprised it’s taken this long but I’m not offended like some on here are. Why do we need a statement from the club telling us the ins and outs of what negotiations they’re going through ? We’ll find out when a manager is appointed as all fans do when this happens. I think it’s a sign of the times with the social media world we live in that everyone needs to know the ins and outs of a cats arse or they panick or become offended. Spot on. I think you’re a good deal younger than me socrates but back along all we had was the lunchtime edition of the Evening Post and that was all. I suspect some on here would have had a heart attack not knowing! All sorts of media outlets now which is probably good but it means loads of people spend too much time (?) looking at them with heightened expectations that they should be told everything. UTG!
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Post by Kipper on Nov 27, 2023 18:05:53 GMT
Perhaps Mr. Mangan will be given until the New Year to try and get the team into the top six. UTG.
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Post by Kipper on Nov 27, 2023 18:14:41 GMT
Perhaps Mr. Mangan will be given until the New Year to try and get the team into the top six. UTG.
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Post by stapletongas on Nov 27, 2023 18:16:15 GMT
I’m surprised it’s taken this long but I’m not offended like some on here are. Why do we need a statement from the club telling us the ins and outs of what negotiations they’re going through ? We’ll find out when a manager is appointed as all fans do when this happens. I think it’s a sign of the times with the social media world we live in that everyone needs to know the ins and outs of a cats arse or they panick or become offended. Spot on. I think you’re a good deal younger than me socrates but back along all we had was the lunchtime edition of the Evening Post and that was all. I suspect some on here would have had a heart attack not knowing! All sorts of media outlets now which is probably good but it means loads of people spend too much time (?) looking at them with heightened expectations that they should be told everything. UTG! And the Green'Un
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Post by albaron on Nov 27, 2023 18:18:58 GMT
Perhaps Mr. Mangan will be given until the New Year to try and get the team into the top six. UTG. Would you in all honesty give money to AM ( not saying he is dishonest ) to improve the teams chances of reaching the playoffs in the january window ? Based on his limited experience and knowledge . I certainly would'nt.
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Post by Kipper on Nov 27, 2023 18:30:46 GMT
Whoever is in charge this so called quality squad is sure taking a time to fire on all four cylinders!
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Post by pirate on Nov 27, 2023 18:35:52 GMT
Perhaps Mr. Mangan will be given until the New Year to try and get the team into the top six. UTG. Would you in all honesty give money to AM ( not saying he is dishonest ) to improve the teams chances of reaching the playoffs in the january window ? Based on his limited experience and knowledge . I certainly would'nt. Matt Taylor also doesn't have much of a track record of spending in the transfer market either. Having been allowed to break the Rotherham transfer record this summer things didn't improve and continued on a downward trajectory, before he was eventually sacked when cut adrift of 4th bottom in the relegation zone.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 27, 2023 18:39:44 GMT
Perhaps Mr. Mangan will be given until the New Year to try and get the team into the top six. UTG. Would you in all honesty give money to AM ( not saying he is dishonest ) to improve the teams chances of reaching the playoffs in the january window ? Based on his limited experience and knowledge . I certainly would'nt. Would you have given DC the money to rebuild the squad after we were relegated out of the league? The Board back JB in the summer and that hardly worked out well.
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Post by eric on Nov 27, 2023 18:50:09 GMT
The odds are moving again Mangan 2/5 Taylor 7/4 Robinson 12/1 Think that's the biggest gap between 2nd 3rd favourite so far Robinson won’t be getting the job ITK fact or opinion?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2023 19:16:15 GMT
Robinson won’t be getting the job ITK fact or opinion? An educated opinion
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