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Post by singupgas on Nov 29, 2023 19:59:21 GMT
Nathan Jones by the end of the week
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Post by playtowin on Nov 29, 2023 20:02:44 GMT
If your having to ask that . You do not know much about football. I’m also asking that. Perhaps I don’t know anything about football. Can someone explain why Monk would be a good appointment? His stats on pure numbers are not brilliant and it’s also fairly telling that he hasn’t held onto a job for long anywhere he’s been. Genuinely interested in the case for him. Gerry Francis was a complete failure managing Exeter city. On his management cv he shouldnt have got the Rovers gig. Fortunately he did and the rest is history. Maybe sometimes its whether a manager seems to get whats needed and is suited to the circumstances.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 29, 2023 20:03:01 GMT
Nathan Jones by the end of the week Matt Taylor now the clear bookies favourite at 1/2 on, Jones still 4/1 Surprised any out of work manager would take the job this week with so little time to prepare for a real banana skin game at Crewe.
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Post by playtowin on Nov 29, 2023 20:05:09 GMT
Nathan Jones by the end of the week Matt Taylor now the clear bookies favourite at 1/2 on, Jones still 4/1 Surprised any out of work manager would take the job this week with so little time to prepare for a real banana skin game at Crewe. A new manager appointed a day before a game often lets the coach manage the game whilst he observes. Taking the reigns fully after the game.
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Post by smudge1 on Nov 29, 2023 20:06:04 GMT
Nathan Jones by the end of the week He seems to be off to Rotherham.
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Post by singupgas on Nov 29, 2023 20:10:22 GMT
Nathan Jones by the end of the week He seems to be off to Rotherham. I was told he was at last night's game. Maybe that was enough to put him off though.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 29, 2023 20:20:06 GMT
Matt Taylor now the clear bookies favourite at 1/2 on, Jones still 4/1 Surprised any out of work manager would take the job this week with so little time to prepare for a real banana skin game at Crewe. A new manager appointed a day before a game often lets the coach manage the game whilst he observes. Taking the reigns fully after the game. If we lose it'll be his name all over the press when they talk about a giant killing, although Crewe could well start as favourites.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 29, 2023 20:23:55 GMT
Anyone consider the Bods expectations are putting potential new managers off? Maybe they are stating the playoffs should be the minimum aim and those who know their stuff are looking at the squad and thinking "not this year mate!". Certainly the owners comments made it sound like that would be the expectation - a number of us now think that's unlikely given the weaknesses within the squad and, whilst there is the January window, given its a notoriously difficult time to address gaps in your squad, I do wonder if some managers could be put off by what they deem unrealistic expectations... It hardly sounds an enticing job: 1) Work with all JB's back room staff 2) Make the plays offs as a minimum 3) Accept JCH will gone us in January 4) Average attendances need to be 10K+ for the remaining games this season We are 7 points off the play offs and it will be somebody else's job. Bartons target was the play offs and he was backed. I expect the board would say they would like us to challenge, but they will judge the manager more next season. Hopefully they don't force the new manager to have JCH if they don't want him.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 29, 2023 20:24:14 GMT
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 29, 2023 20:27:57 GMT
I’m also asking that. Perhaps I don’t know anything about football. Can someone explain why Monk would be a good appointment? His stats on pure numbers are not brilliant and it’s also fairly telling that he hasn’t held onto a job for long anywhere he’s been. Genuinely interested in the case for him. He’s been given high profile jobs and failed them all by the look of his cv Suggest you look closer. The only club Monk failed at was Sheffield Wed, sacked when they were 2nd bottom of the Championship. At Swansea in his first season he saved them from relegation and the following season they finished 8th their highest ever position in the Premier league, beating Man Utd and Arsenal home and away in the same season, one of only three clubs to ever do that. He was manager of the month in that season as well.He was sacked when they were 15th in the Premier league. He resigned from Leeds after they finished 7th in the Championship after a poor end to the season where they had been in the playoffs until the final day. The Leeds owners were mystified as to why he resigned. At Birmingham he did very well and his spell at Middlesborough did not get them back to the Premier league as they wanted. Can hardly been described as a failure.
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Post by smudge1 on Nov 29, 2023 20:33:23 GMT
A new manager appointed a day before a game often lets the coach manage the game whilst he observes. Taking the reigns fully after the game. If we lose it'll be his name all over the press when they talk about a giant killing, although Crewe could well start as favourites. On current form Crewe are favourites
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 29, 2023 20:37:08 GMT
He’s been given high profile jobs and failed them all by the look of his cv Suggest you look closer. The only club Monk failed at was Sheffield Wed, sacked when they were 2nd bottom of the Championship. At Swansea in his first season he saved them from relegation and the following season they finished 8th their highest ever position in the Premier league, beating Man Utd and Arsenal home and away in the same season, one of only three clubs to ever do that. He was manager of the month in that season as well.He was sacked when they were 15th in the Premier league. He resigned from Leeds after they finished 7th in the Championship after a poor end to the season where they had been in the playoffs until the final day. The Leeds owners were mystified as to why he resigned. At Birmingham he did very well and his spell at Middlesborough did not get them back to the Premier league as they wanted. Can hardly been described as a failure. He spent quite a bit at Middleborough, so I would count that spell as a failure as well. Worrying thing, is that he seemed to get worse as time went on and has been out of the game for 3 years. He seems to initially improve sides, but struggled to build over time.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 29, 2023 20:42:53 GMT
If we lose it'll be his name all over the press when they talk about a giant killing, although Crewe could well start as favourites. On current form Crewe are favourites No, we're favourites.
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 29, 2023 20:57:24 GMT
Suggest you look closer. The only club Monk failed at was Sheffield Wed, sacked when they were 2nd bottom of the Championship. At Swansea in his first season he saved them from relegation and the following season they finished 8th their highest ever position in the Premier league, beating Man Utd and Arsenal home and away in the same season, one of only three clubs to ever do that. He was manager of the month in that season as well.He was sacked when they were 15th in the Premier league. He resigned from Leeds after they finished 7th in the Championship after a poor end to the season where they had been in the playoffs until the final day. The Leeds owners were mystified as to why he resigned. At Birmingham he did very well and his spell at Middlesborough did not get them back to the Premier league as they wanted. Can hardly been described as a failure. He spent quite a bit at Middleborough, so I would count that spell as a failure as well. Worrying thing, is that he seemed to get worse as time went on and has been out of the game for 3 years. He seems to initially improve sides, but struggled to build over time. I would suggest out of all the names mentioned Monk is the only one who has done well in the Premiership and Championship. Does that make him a failure? Some are touting a manager who did well at Luton and then was a disaster zone at his next two clubs and others a manager who did ok at Exeter and failed at Rotherham.
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Post by gascloud on Nov 29, 2023 20:58:55 GMT
On current form Crewe are favourites No, we're favourites. We are the potential banana skin I’d say. What do the bookies know😂
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 29, 2023 21:02:49 GMT
He spent quite a bit at Middleborough, so I would count that spell as a failure as well. Worrying thing, is that he seemed to get worse as time went on and has been out of the game for 3 years. He seems to initially improve sides, but struggled to build over time. I would suggest out of all the names mentioned Monk is the only one who has done well in the Premiership and Championship. Does that make him a failure? Some are touting a manager who did well at Luton and then was a disaster zone at his next two clubs and others a manager who did ok at Exeter and failed at Rotherham. Would be happy with all 3 Bideford. You could make an argument for appointing all 3. I think Jones would excite me most out of the 3 if I'm honest.
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 29, 2023 21:05:45 GMT
We are the potential banana skin I’d say. What do the bookies know😂 Totally agree. Outplayed Derby at home in the cup and conceded two goals well into injury time that led to a replay at Derby. Deservedly and easily beat Derby 3-1 in the replay. Be very surprised if we get a result on Saturday.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 29, 2023 21:46:43 GMT
He spent quite a bit at Middleborough, so I would count that spell as a failure as well. Worrying thing, is that he seemed to get worse as time went on and has been out of the game for 3 years. He seems to initially improve sides, but struggled to build over time. I would suggest out of all the names mentioned Monk is the only one who has done well in the Premiership and Championship. Does that make him a failure? Some are touting a manager who did well at Luton and then was a disaster zone at his next two clubs and others a manager who did ok at Exeter and failed at Rotherham. I would take Monk. I'm just saying that his career seems to have got worse as it went on and he's been out of the game for ages.
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Post by xenongas on Nov 29, 2023 21:47:02 GMT
Every manager's first interview praises the ambition of the board. Seems silly anyone worth their salt would turn down a job because they don't think they can match it.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 29, 2023 21:54:30 GMT
He spent quite a bit at Middleborough, so I would count that spell as a failure as well. Worrying thing, is that he seemed to get worse as time went on and has been out of the game for 3 years. He seems to initially improve sides, but struggled to build over time. I would suggest out of all the names mentioned Monk is the only one who has done well in the Premiership and Championship. Does that make him a failure? Some are touting a manager who did well at Luton and then was a disaster zone at his next two clubs and others a manager who did ok at Exeter and failed at Rotherham. We're a mid table L1 side, do we really need a manager with Premiership & Championship experience or one who knows what it takes to get a team promoted from L1? Although as things stand it might be a good move just to employ one who knows how to win L1 games. If Monk has been waiting for the perfect opportunity to return to management in the last 3 years can anybody really see the Rovers job is the one to entice him back?
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