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Post by onefindunford on Nov 30, 2023 12:47:14 GMT
#HijackersBackIn And you are right BTW, yesterday was second interviews and both Monk and Taylor were in. 💯 true. If we are 7 weeks in and only at second interview stage with some of them, we are even more f**ked that we thought It’s 5 weeks today since Barton left. I would rather they took their time and got it right.
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Post by TAGas on Nov 30, 2023 12:50:03 GMT
Imagine if the new manager just rocked up to today's presser with no pre announcement from the club
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Post by wallywalters on Nov 30, 2023 12:51:37 GMT
Honestly this process has been an absolute farce. I've never known anything like it. How can mangan manage this side Saturday with still no decision made even after what he said Tuesday night and how him and the players are being made to feel.
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Post by hartcliffegas on Nov 30, 2023 12:55:51 GMT
Honestly this process has been an absolute farce. I've never known anything like it. How can mangan manage this side Saturday with still no decision made even after what he said Tuesday night and how him and the players are being made to feel. They are well paid professionals and will (should) give 100% at all times
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Post by rovers78 on Nov 30, 2023 13:00:53 GMT
If we are 7 weeks in and only at second interview stage with some of them, we are even more f**ked that we thought It’s 5 weeks today since Barton left. I would rather they took their time and got it right. [b I’d rather they actually had a Dam plan rather than scrambling around constantly.
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Post by baggins on Nov 30, 2023 13:18:45 GMT
It’s 5 weeks today since Barton left. I would rather they took their time and got it right. [b I’d rather they actually had a Dam plan rather than scrambling around constantly. Constantly?
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Post by baggins on Nov 30, 2023 13:19:22 GMT
Honestly this process has been an absolute farce. I've never known anything like it. How can mangan manage this side Saturday with still no decision made even after what he said Tuesday night and how him and the players are being made to feel. They are well paid professionals and will (should) give 100% at all times This.
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Post by GasAttacK on Nov 30, 2023 13:29:03 GMT
We used to be called ragbag Rovers but with all the recent investment and improvements to the stadium we are rapidly loosing that tag , to be replaced with another one ruderless Rovers. I like Andy Mangan and he deserved a chance to manage the team, but there has been no real improvements and it is time to get a new manager in , the owners have had plenty of time to appoint someone and now need to make a decision. Would be happy with Taylor, we just need to get things sorted now and move on. Mangan's points per game at this level is better than Taylor's . Mangan's PPG count for nothing in my opinion. If you just look at the results over the 5 league games then yes, his PPG is pretty good. However, we've had the easiest run of fixtures he could have wished for and we've been second best in most of those games. Based on our performances, if Mangan was given the job his PPG would be less than 1 by the end of the season.
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Post by socrates on Nov 30, 2023 13:36:11 GMT
Mangan's points per game at this level is better than Taylor's . Mangan's PPG count for nothing in my opinion. If you just look at the results over the 5 league games then yes, his PPG is pretty good. However, we've had the easiest run of fixtures he could have wished for and we've been second best in most of those games. Based on our performances, if Mangan was given the job his PPG would be less than 1 by the end of the season. Possession doesn’t win games. Barton was taking us backwards with his style of football this season. We would have probably gone down.
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Post by CheltGas on Nov 30, 2023 13:37:06 GMT
If we are 7 weeks in and only at second interview stage with some of them, we are even more f**ked that we thought It’s 5 weeks today since Barton left. I would rather they took their time and got it right. Agreed, and I think everyone else would however surely it’s important to communicate with us fans? I’m not expecting to know all the ins and outs of the process they’ve been going through, I don’t think anyone is but it’s got to a point where it’s angered so many fans that a bit of an update would be nice. Even the rumours about Gorringe being on gardening leave, surely they’re seeing all this and know it’s not good for the club? It’s starting to get so toxic and I can’t help but feel if they had communicated better the atmosphere around the club wouldn’t be anywhere near as bad as it is currently, especially when you’re seeing Mangan say the players and staff are feeling the same way. It’s just so demoralising when we spend a lot of money following our club and they don’t feel like we deserve an update about anything…
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Post by popuppirate on Nov 30, 2023 13:41:19 GMT
We've got no choice other than to put our faith in the owners hands, same as we try to for a manager. I didn't get the impression that the new owners were the sort to say exactly why Barton had to go at that point, and I wouldn't really expect them to in much detail either. It sounds as if (from various accounts) we're interviewing fairly decent options and the timing of the appointment could hinge on many things. I too hope it's done this week, but there's nothing farcical to my mind about what's taking place or how much we're aware of it. It seemed the decent thing to do to give Mangan a crack, if that's what was happening, even though he would have never been my choice. He's likely bitterly disappointed that it hasn't worked out, but will also be looking elsewhere by now I'd have thought. If that is the case, I wouldn't expect him to be too forthcoming with positive vibes about the situation which is another good reason it will hopefully be sorted soon.
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Post by GasAttacK on Nov 30, 2023 13:42:37 GMT
Mangan's PPG count for nothing in my opinion. If you just look at the results over the 5 league games then yes, his PPG is pretty good. However, we've had the easiest run of fixtures he could have wished for and we've been second best in most of those games. Based on our performances, if Mangan was given the job his PPG would be less than 1 by the end of the season. Possession doesn’t win games. Barton was taking us backwards with his style of football this season. We would have probably gone down. I didn't mention Barton? I'm not just talking about possession. I'm talking about shots, corners, chances created etc. Compare the stats in Barton's last games against 4th place Stevenage to Tuesday against 16th place Orient. I would have had far more faith in Barton keeping us up than Mangan. That's not to say I was against his sacking because we weren't really moving forward. However, Mangan would be a massive backward step in my opinion.
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Post by baggins on Nov 30, 2023 13:43:10 GMT
It’s 5 weeks today since Barton left. I would rather they took their time and got it right. Agreed, and I think everyone else would however surely it’s important to communicate with us fans? I’m not expecting to know all the ins and outs of the process they’ve been going through, I don’t think anyone is but it’s got to a point where it’s angered so many fans that a bit of an update would be nice. Even the rumours about Gorringe being on gardening leave, surely they’re seeing all this and know it’s not good for the club? It’s starting to get so toxic and I can’t help but feel if they had communicated better the atmosphere around the club wouldn’t be anywhere near as bad as it is currently, especially when you’re seeing Mangan say the players and staff are feeling the same way. It’s just so demoralising when we spend a lot of money following our club and they don’t feel like we deserve an update about anything… If there's no updates, what do you want them to say?
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Post by DrFaustus on Nov 30, 2023 13:51:52 GMT
If the Bristol Post report that Andy will be taking the press conference at 3.30, you can almost be assured it will in fact be my lady wife fielding questions and at 6.27pm after our tea and before we watch Shetland from last night.
The Post has as much integrity as a government minister. The square root of f**k all.
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Post by CheltGas on Nov 30, 2023 13:58:04 GMT
Agreed, and I think everyone else would however surely it’s important to communicate with us fans? I’m not expecting to know all the ins and outs of the process they’ve been going through, I don’t think anyone is but it’s got to a point where it’s angered so many fans that a bit of an update would be nice. Even the rumours about Gorringe being on gardening leave, surely they’re seeing all this and know it’s not good for the club? It’s starting to get so toxic and I can’t help but feel if they had communicated better the atmosphere around the club wouldn’t be anywhere near as bad as it is currently, especially when you’re seeing Mangan say the players and staff are feeling the same way. It’s just so demoralising when we spend a lot of money following our club and they don’t feel like we deserve an update about anything… If there's no updates, what do you want them to say? Tell us where in the process they are? Have they interviewed people and decided they’re not the right fit? Are they waiting for other managers to become available? It’s not necessarily what it says, but the fact that it wouldn’t leave us all in the dark. And surely the fact that Mangan doesn’t have a clue what’s happening shows this doesn’t mean it’s just us who they aren’t communicating with? When you’ve got staff who are in the dark about if they’ll have a job next week it’s not a good look especially when that’s being said in a post match presser (by the way that’s not me having a go at Mangan in the slightest). When they gave that interview to BBC Bristol about the stand and plans for the stadium, it was refreshing because they were open about things, just feel like we’ve been left in the dark and people are starting to get sick of it when a statement or two over the 5 weeks would’ve helped even if they didn’t give much away.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2023 14:05:26 GMT
I’m hearing horror stories, Robinson is talking, thought he had the job, was told it was his “but we just need to persuade the rest of the board”
And players turned up today and no one was there to take training.
Hargreaves not posted anything from the presser?
The players have no idea of who the manager is tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2023 14:09:47 GMT
You lot make me laugh, this is the most important appointment in the clubs history and because its taken a few extra days to get right, this forum has a mega meltdown ffs In history? 😂
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 30, 2023 14:10:18 GMT
You lot make me laugh, this is the most important appointment in the clubs history and because its taken a few extra days to get right, this forum has a mega meltdown ffs In history? 😂 You're £20's history that's for sure mate 🤣😁
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Post by baggins on Nov 30, 2023 14:14:40 GMT
If there's no updates, what do you want them to say? Tell us where in the process they are? Have they interviewed people and decided they’re not the right fit? Are they waiting for other managers to become available? It’s not necessarily what it says, but the fact that it wouldn’t leave us all in the dark. And surely the fact that Mangan doesn’t have a clue what’s happening shows this doesn’t mean it’s just us who they aren’t communicating with? When you’ve got staff who are in the dark about if they’ll have a job next week it’s not a good look especially when that’s being said in a post match presser (by the way that’s not me having a go at Mangan in the slightest). When they gave that interview to BBC Bristol about the stand and plans for the stadium, it was refreshing because they were open about things, just feel like we’ve been left in the dark and people are starting to get sick of it when a statement or two over the 5 weeks would’ve helped even if they didn’t give much away. That's fine, but a lot of what you're asking for is private and confidential. You wouldn't like it if your job interviews were put out for everyone to read? And I'm not sure, as just paying customers, we have a given right to know.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2023 14:16:12 GMT
You're £20's history that's for sure mate 🤣😁 Do bookies still pay out if someone manages ten games? You’re an expert so I hope you know ….
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