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Post by wilkimania on Nov 6, 2023 20:44:53 GMT
Not going to go down well with a few but Barton should not of been sacked, no one out there better than him Based on what factors is there no one better than him?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2023 20:57:27 GMT
If Oxford are so well run why did they let Robinson get away with his misdemeanor for so long and how did they manage to finish so far behind us in the table when we seemed to give up around December? For all his apparent failings EJ has probably put together the best L1 squad since the Holloway era, if we employ the right manager we could well make the play offs this season, if we can add a decent striker in January. They had no proof Topper, it was all rumours, and it came to a head. Their biggest failing was being too loyal to the manager but then look at his win ration and consistent play off finishes, some crime that?!……….and then they acted, within 4 months they assembled a promotion chasing side. Topper, what it is with people like you and your ignorance to the past and DC?!?! His side, Taylor golden boot, went onto Champipnshp. Ellis sold for £800k to championship, Bodin sold to championship, Lockyer playing for Wales with us. We can’t keep doing this, making up crazy statements and me having to defend previous squads. And I can’t keep asking people for stats, where did DC finish the first season? I’m sick of it, Dam mental statements. And DC did this on Nick Higgs budget, your statement is incredible
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Nov 6, 2023 21:06:31 GMT
Not going to go down well with a few but Barton should not of been sacked, no one out there better than him Based on what factors is there no one better than him? I’d argue that other than one or two, pretty much every manager linked to us so far has achieved more in their managerial career than JB has (at this stage). I’m sure none of them talk as good a game as him, though. And that’s what really matters!
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Post by kruger on Nov 6, 2023 21:08:21 GMT
Not going to go down well with a few but Barton should not of been sacked, no one out there better than him Based on what factors is there no one better than him? ok what better manager out there do you think will come to us realistically? I can't think of any, look at the names being brought up for god sake,
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Post by wilkimania on Nov 6, 2023 21:20:37 GMT
Based on what factors is there no one better than him? ok what better manager out there do you think will come to us realistically? I can't think of any, look at the names being brought up for god sake, For you, what makes Joey a better name though? Most of the managers mentioned have higher win percentages over a greater number of games than Barton. So for you to say they're not appealing names then that must mean there are other factors that stop you from wanting them, what are those factors? I understand that you're a Joey Barton fan, so there must be a factor that goes above and beyond his actual record as manager that makes you think he's superior otherwise it's just a case of better the devil you know.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2023 21:36:58 GMT
Craig Bellamy applied for the Oxford job, that’s the level they are at, imagine his knowledge and what he’s learned off Kompany and all the other managers he’s played under?!
Topper, your statement is a bit like you giving your partner £4,000 to go on Vinted and you telling everyone she’s good at shopping! I mean your coming home to Barnstaple, Newport and an unemployed striker living in Bristol is like your Gucci shoes with a hole in the sole, your Size L Stone Island top shrunk in the wash to size small and a half decent pair of balenciaga‘s which whiff a bit!!!!
Luke McNally Burnley FC €1.85m Rob Atkinson Bristol City €1.60m Rob Dickie Queens Park R€2.70m Shandon Baptiste Brentford €2.25m Gavin Whyte Cardiff City €2.20m Tariqe Fosu Brentford FC €750k
The above is a well run business, player sales in the last 4 years, our last £1 player sold was JCH in 2020 scouted by Tommy and Cogs.
Our nearest to a £2 million sale is back in the days of Ian Holloway!
And Oxford do this because they have to pay Firoz Kassam £1 million in rent a season and he takes all food receipts on a match day. They also pay the BMW Group and council to use their training ground.
They are a well run business and you can see why the ex owner of Inter Milan purchased them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2023 21:46:30 GMT
Based on what factors is there no one better than him? ok what better manager out there do you think will come to us realistically? I can't think of any, look at the names being brought up for god sake, He’s gone now mate. Time to let the tears flow and move on to the acceptance stage of grieving
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 6, 2023 21:48:52 GMT
Is this the next Oxford manager thread? Asking for a friend.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 6, 2023 21:52:23 GMT
ok what better manager out there do you think will come to us realistically? I can't think of any, look at the names being brought up for god sake, For you, what makes Joey a better name though? Most of the managers mentioned have higher win percentages over a greater number of games than Barton. So for you to say they're not appealing names then that must mean there are other factors that stop you from wanting them, what are those factors? I understand that you're a Joey Barton fan, so there must be a factor that goes above and beyond his actual record as manager that makes you think he's superior otherwise it's just a case of better the devil you know. I'd still put my money on AM getting the job if we win tomorrow night.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2023 21:58:23 GMT
Craig Bellamy applied for the Oxford job, that’s the level they are at, imagine his knowledge and what he’s learned off Kompany and all the other managers he’s played under?! Topper, your statement is a bit like you giving your partner £4,000 to go on Vinted and you telling everyone she’s good at shopping! I mean your coming home to Barnstaple, Newport and an unemployed striker living in Bristol is like your Gucci shoes with a hole in the sole, your Size L Stone Island top shrunk in the wash to size small and a half decent pair of balenciaga‘s which whiff a bit!!!! Luke McNally Burnley FC €1.85m Rob Atkinson Bristol City €1.60m Rob Dickie Queens Park R€2.70m Shandon Baptiste Brentford €2.25m Gavin Whyte Cardiff City €2.20m Tariqe Fosu Brentford FC €750k The above is a well run business, player sales in the last 4 years, our last £1 player sold was JCH in 2020 scouted by Tommy and Cogs. Our nearest to a £2 million sale is back in the days of Ian Holloway! And Oxford do this because they have to pay Firoz Kassam £1 million in rent a season and he takes all food receipts on a match day. They also pay the BMW Group and council to use their training ground. They are a well run business and you can see why the ex owner of Inter Milan purchased them. Don’t expect a reply to this one , Roady. Topper doesn’t respond when he’s been proved wrong
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2023 21:58:52 GMT
ok what better manager out there do you think will come to us realistically? I can't think of any, look at the names being brought up for god sake, For you, what makes Joey a better name though? Most of the managers mentioned have higher win percentages over a greater number of games than Barton. So for you to say they're not appealing names then that must mean there are other factors that stop you from wanting them, what are those factors? I understand that you're a Joey Barton fan, so there must be a factor that goes above and beyond his actual record as manager that makes you think he's superior otherwise it's just a case of better the devil you know. Words and vibes , really
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Post by gasify on Nov 7, 2023 6:16:27 GMT
Not going to go down well with a few but Barton should not of been sacked, no one out there better than him It's done. Time to move on. Bartons results weren't good enough for the budget that he was given. The owners have said that. If you want to put your £10M to £20M into the pot, I'll back you in bringing back Barton.
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Post by gasify on Nov 7, 2023 6:22:54 GMT
Not going to go down well with a few but Barton should not of been sacked, no one out there better than him think that may have dawned on the owners. Probably looking at the grass behind them at the moment Thing is, these managers have baggage as we have played against them and have a dislike of them naturally from being the opposition. The complaints of Cotterill cause he called us "Ragbag" is the same as JB saying to City we are coming for you. Its all mouth to appease the fans. Some have promotions, some have relegation (I wonder is JB omits the relegation from his CV). If you look at JB on paper, it's different from JB the persona. Some people liked that, some people didn't. For the first time that I can remember, the owners are showing ambition and accountability. We are still moaning on. We should be pretty happy that our owners are showing the ambition that I think we all want.
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Post by gasify on Nov 7, 2023 6:29:20 GMT
Not going to go down well with a few but Barton should not of been sacked, no one out there better than him I tend to agree here whilst Joey's was not everyone's cup of tea there's no denying some of the signings he made have been outstanding. The results may have not gone Joey's way but you could see what he was trying to build in the long run personally I think they would have improved over time but the final nail in his coffin was the remarks regard Steve Evans. His mouth was like a magicians hat you just never knew what was going to come out of it, so come the end he was just to much of a liability for the owners to invest in He made the signings due to being backed by the owners and having the budget. The final piece in the puzzle didn't happen. Even as a JB Hater, I do honestly believe that with JCH we would be challenging for top 6 and JB would still be here. I know that this wasn't his fault (I haven't read anything that links JB to the greatest transfer f*ckup in our history) and it is a shame that he ended up dieing on the sword for something out of his control. However, with the budget given and the players recruited we should be closer to the playoff than to the relegation zone. The facts are that when JB was sacked, we were closer to the relegation zone.
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Post by gasify on Nov 7, 2023 6:30:52 GMT
A truly depressing list of failure after failure managers that have been linked with us. View AttachmentIt's a risk whoever's appointed there's no guarantee that any new manager coming in will be successful regardless of any past success they have had at other clubs. Who ever is appointed will need time to bed in and be supported by the fans Managers,Coaches, Owners and players will come and go but the fans will always be there regardless Why does it have to be negative? Why can't we look forward to a New Manager bounce?
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Post by playtowin on Nov 7, 2023 9:31:59 GMT
If JB was sacked because league position didnt reflect investment. You can be sure the man coming in will be expected to finish 8th minimum. Therefore its not going to be someone who hopes they can do well but somebody who knows they can get this squad (plus an addition or two in jan) into the playoffs.
Nigel Pearson might actually be on the radar...
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Post by madgas on Nov 7, 2023 9:43:02 GMT
As a rule no sh** heads.
But if we were to take an ex bristol city manager Pearson or Pulis would be tolerable anyone else would dreadful.
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Post by pucklegas on Nov 7, 2023 10:51:11 GMT
I think Nigel Pearson would be a good appointment, did the ground work at Leicester for their success, and a lot to prove people wrong at the gate.
He lives local, friends with Joey so there would be a handover of the reigns.
Plus it would wind them up if he got us promoted!
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 7, 2023 11:02:17 GMT
I think Nigel Pearson would be a good appointment, did the ground work at Leicester for their success, and a lot to prove people wrong at the gate. He lives local, friends with Joey so there would be a handover of the reigns. Plus it would wind them up if he got us promoted! Poor bloke has massive health issues though, and according to a good friend of mine, barely took training himself. I always liked Pearson, but I dont think its the right man for us as much as a wind up it would be.
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Post by heartofgas on Nov 7, 2023 11:02:57 GMT
I think Nigel Pearson would be a good appointment, did the ground work at Leicester for their success, and a lot to prove people wrong at the gate. He lives local, friends with Joey so there would be a handover of the reigns. Plus it would wind them up if he got us promoted! That would be a dream scenario.
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