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Post by Feeling The Blues on Nov 7, 2023 22:56:23 GMT
Well Mangan’s chances of getting the job have taken a tumble tonight. There was nothing in that performance to give any inkling that he’d do better than the previous manager and quite a bit to think he’d do a lot worse.
Much of the time we were pedestrian and there wasn’t the fight you’d expect from a team who were battling for a cause or a belief in anything other than going through the motions of playing a game on autopilot. Bottom of the table Reading were the better team, for the last 15 minutes we barely got out of our half save for the open goal that Marquis was presented with but somehow contrived to fall over.
That along with plenty of unforced errors made for a frustrating night for the packed away end but I sense less so for the players.
New manager needed urgently now whilst we still have a chance to have a decent season.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2023 23:00:37 GMT
Well Mangan’s chances of getting the job have taken a tumble tonight. There was nothing in that performance to give any inkling that he’s do better than the previous manager and quite a bit to think he’d do a lot worse. Much of the time we were pedestrian and there wasn’t the fight you’d expect from a team who were battling for a cause or a belief in anything other than going through the motions of playing a game on autopilot. Bottom of the table Reading were the better team, for the last 15 minutes we barely got out of our half save for the open goal that Marquis was presented with but somehow contrived to fall over. That along with plenty of unforced errors made for a frustrating night for the packed away end but I sense less so for the players. New manager needed urgently now whilst we still have a chance to have a decent season. I’ll get hammered for this but I don’t think it matters who the manager is. This is a very average team missing lots of keep components required to be a top team pushing for the play offs. New managers aim should be a steady season where we finish half way and then look at improving on that again next season whilst the infrastructure is improved.
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Post by bluestargas on Nov 7, 2023 23:05:38 GMT
Frank Lampard anyone?
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Nov 7, 2023 23:10:03 GMT
How much do you think he'll want to be payed?
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Post by bluestargas on Nov 7, 2023 23:20:25 GMT
Frank would love a promotion on his cv
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2023 23:23:27 GMT
Frank would love a promotion on his cv I’m sure he would but our team isn’t good enough for that and nor is he a good enough manager
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Post by dmacca65 on Nov 8, 2023 0:01:03 GMT
Two rank average sides out there tonight and I am not sure who shaded it? Still yet to see very much if anything of these quality signings we keep telling ourselves we have made!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2023 0:01:26 GMT
Frank would love a promotion on his cv I’m sure he would but our team isn’t good enough for that and nor is he a good enough manager This is a complete rebuild for next season now, I’m not gloating but many smelt the coffee tonight and the boos are half time were justified, some at the end as well. The reality is the next bloke has a big job on his hands for 7/8 weeks until we make January 1st and we must have targets coming in straight away. It looks ok right now but this lot could easily find themselves in a relegation battle as well. 6 off the play offs which is unrealistic but also 6 off relegation and a bad period and we could end up like last season again looking over our shoulder. Sobering tonight, the next appointment isn’t coming into a brilliant situation. No pace up front, no real match winners, it’s a myth squad he’s inheriting. Hate to admit it, only one for the job and he’s not even on my favourite list, Karl Robinson. And because of his contacts and knowledge of the league. It’s not an obsession, it’s reality, the previous manager and Jennings have left us a Paul Buckle situation. House hold names, Virgo’s, Gill’s, McGleish, our situation is uncanny now isn’t it to back then. And I said to my mate tonight, my worry is Finley and others could be the next Campbell and that lot who rebelled against Penney.
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Post by aforce on Nov 8, 2023 0:01:52 GMT
Frank would love a promotion on his cv I’m sure he would but our team isn’t good enough for that and nor is he a good enough manager Last season there was loads of teams better than us but this season what teams that we’ve played do you think looked a level above us?
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Post by socrates on Nov 8, 2023 0:20:51 GMT
I’m sure he would but our team isn’t good enough for that and nor is he a good enough manager Last season there was loads of teams better than us but this season what teams that we’ve played do you think looked a level above us? They all look better than us when we just dick about with the ball in our own half and give it away constantly. Some see that as “ playing some great stuff “ funny game football. It’s about winning football matches..
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Post by popuppirate on Nov 8, 2023 0:52:21 GMT
Tonight just confirmed for me that sacking Barton was the right decision, as I'm confident it would have played out the same way with him in charge. I still think we're a decent top 10 team, and only one or two players short of a promotion challenge. I said before that Mangan needs a lower league team than us to manage first, and I think he got a fair few calls wrong with the 11 he initially started with, as well as one or two later in the game. I don't believe Woods was match fit, and starting him with Finley very nearly cost us a point. We had a group of players available tonight that could and should have taken 3 points but might well have come away with none. Having said that, it looked a clear penalty for us which would have won the game, but probably would have just been papering over the cracks. A fresh set of eyes is needed for this squad, and I hope whoever it is that the players buy into their ideas as that's more than half the battle. I don't particularly care who comes in at this point, it's more important that the players get behind them. If they don't then move them on as there's not particularly any of them that looked indispensable tonight (Taylor perhaps the only one)
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Post by willytopp84 on Nov 8, 2023 2:09:32 GMT
We need our new gaffer in so he can get a really good look at our squad and make the tweaks required in January to mount this promised playoff push.
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Post by pirate on Nov 8, 2023 2:58:29 GMT
Are Oxford fans gutted about losing their manager to the Teds ? Heartbroken but they are confident they will choose well again, I think they will get much better applicants than us because they are a much better run club. They are basically run as the Kuwaitis want us to be now, for me Robinson is the only suitable candidate to work with what he have right now. Someone like John Terry would come into us, with no real scouting department, he’d walk into that at Oxford like Manning did in March. In May they signed a Wales international at 24 years of age and a top player from Notts County who is playing brilliant for them. Our DOF is an ex agent, we never buy to sell on like Exeter, Peterborough and Oxford, the later will be fine. Oxford now linked with another City Football Group employee, Des Buckingham at Mumbai City. Previously Manning was employed by the City Football Group (who own Lommel SK). Buckingham jumped to the top of early bookies favourite list.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Nov 8, 2023 3:33:23 GMT
I’m sure he would but our team isn’t good enough for that and nor is he a good enough manager This is a complete rebuild for next season now, I’m not gloating but many smelt the coffee tonight and the boos are half time were justified, some at the end as well. The reality is the next bloke has a big job on his hands for 7/8 weeks until we make January 1st and we must have targets coming in straight away. It looks ok right now but this lot could easily find themselves in a relegation battle as well. 6 off the play offs which is unrealistic but also 6 off relegation and a bad period and we could end up like last season again looking over our shoulder. Sobering tonight, the next appointment isn’t coming into a brilliant situation. No pace up front, no real match winners, it’s a myth squad he’s inheriting. Hate to admit it, only one for the job and he’s not even on my favourite list, Karl Robinson. And because of his contacts and knowledge of the league. It’s not an obsession, it’s reality, the previous manager and Jennings have left us a Paul Buckle situation. House hold names, Virgo’s, Gill’s, McGleish, our situation is uncanny now isn’t it to back then. And I said to my mate tonight, my worry is Finley and others could be the next Campbell and that lot who rebelled against Penney. I was at the match - I didn’t hear any boos 🤔 👂 💙utg
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2023 5:59:00 GMT
Purdy, I don’t know where you were sat but I was bang behind the goal in the middle of the stand and there was 💯 boos at half time.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 8, 2023 6:46:10 GMT
I’m sure he would but our team isn’t good enough for that and nor is he a good enough manager This is a complete rebuild for next season now, I’m not gloating but many smelt the coffee tonight and the boos are half time were justified, some at the end as well. The reality is the next bloke has a big job on his hands for 7/8 weeks until we make January 1st and we must have targets coming in straight away. It looks ok right now but this lot could easily find themselves in a relegation battle as well. 6 off the play offs which is unrealistic but also 6 off relegation and a bad period and we could end up like last season again looking over our shoulder. Sobering tonight, the next appointment isn’t coming into a brilliant situation. No pace up front, no real match winners, it’s a myth squad he’s inheriting. Hate to admit it, only one for the job and he’s not even on my favourite list, Karl Robinson. And because of his contacts and knowledge of the league. It’s not an obsession, it’s reality, the previous manager and Jennings have left us a Paul Buckle situation. House hold names, Virgo’s, Gill’s, McGleish, our situation is uncanny now isn’t it to back then. And I said to my mate tonight, my worry is Finley and others could be the next Campbell and that lot who rebelled against Penney. Drama Queen. Things aren't as bad as your post makes them out to be there.
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Post by peterparker on Nov 8, 2023 6:58:42 GMT
Well Mangan’s chances of getting the job have taken a tumble tonight. There was nothing in that performance to give any inkling that he’s do better than the previous manager and quite a bit to think he’d do a lot worse. Much of the time we were pedestrian and there wasn’t the fight you’d expect from a team who were battling for a cause or a belief in anything other than going through the motions of playing a game on autopilot. Bottom of the table Reading were the better team, for the last 15 minutes we barely got out of our half save for the open goal that Marquis was presented with but somehow contrived to fall over. That along with plenty of unforced errors made for a frustrating night for the packed away end but I sense less so for the players. New manager needed urgently now whilst we still have a chance to have a decent season. I’ll get hammered for this but I don’t think it matters who the manager is. This is a very average team missing lots of keep components required to be a top team pushing for the play offs. New managers aim should be a steady season where we finish half way and then look at improving on that again next season whilst the infrastructure is improved. Never bought into the hype by some for this squad. No doubt we have some very good indviduals, but they don't necessarily compliment each other/come together as a whole. I know we have injuries, but we have a tonne of midfielders/attacking midfielders and it they were all fit you would probably get people saying a million different combinations as to what they think is best. We have Cox in goal, (and I don't want to pick a part the young lad),he may well go on to be a fine keeper, but I am concerned we are stuck in a situation where we have to play him. I don't see a massive improvement on Belly and some of his development is coming at our expense Thankfully Martin seems to be getting fitter/into a rhythm because there was the massive striker shaped hole up front By no means do we have a bad squad, but some of the recruitment has been incoherent to me
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Post by madgas on Nov 8, 2023 7:14:18 GMT
Hmmmm- think we're seeing an over-reacation based on wanting to make up for lost points earlier in the season.
A point away from home is fine. No need to write a season obituary just yet.
That said, I think Mangs got the starting 11 wrong... I would rarely play Woods and Finley as a two. Neither are physically imposing. Both like the deep playmaker role which is a bit samey. I think without one of Rossiter or Ward we don't have the players for a 2- especially with the very attacking wingers we utilise.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2023 7:17:15 GMT
This is a complete rebuild for next season now, I’m not gloating but many smelt the coffee tonight and the boos are half time were justified, some at the end as well. The reality is the next bloke has a big job on his hands for 7/8 weeks until we make January 1st and we must have targets coming in straight away. It looks ok right now but this lot could easily find themselves in a relegation battle as well. 6 off the play offs which is unrealistic but also 6 off relegation and a bad period and we could end up like last season again looking over our shoulder. Sobering tonight, the next appointment isn’t coming into a brilliant situation. No pace up front, no real match winners, it’s a myth squad he’s inheriting. Hate to admit it, only one for the job and he’s not even on my favourite list, Karl Robinson. And because of his contacts and knowledge of the league. It’s not an obsession, it’s reality, the previous manager and Jennings have left us a Paul Buckle situation. House hold names, Virgo’s, Gill’s, McGleish, our situation is uncanny now isn’t it to back then. And I said to my mate tonight, my worry is Finley and others could be the next Campbell and that lot who rebelled against Penney. Drama Queen. Things aren't as bad as your post makes them out to be there. Enjoy the game tonight, Gavin? Hope you didn’t get stuck on the motorway like the rest of us.
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Post by singupgas on Nov 8, 2023 11:26:22 GMT
What we saw last night was a team of players that signed for the previous manager that looked semi interested/motivated now he is gone.
I am 99.9 % we would have got a result last night, we would have smelt blood and would have made sure we were up for task.
We have truly ballsed up, sacking JB early with clearly nobody lined up. Mangan is JB mate, worked with him for years, playing the same passing football, surprised, not me.
We have been struck by injuries all season, we haven't been able to turn draws into wins, we ultimately failed on the last day of the transfer window.
I really have no idea who we are after, but the fact it is approaching 2 weeks since JB was sacked and still have no name strongly linked, just speaks volumes about how poorly we are run as a football club.
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