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Post by madgas on Nov 17, 2023 9:30:44 GMT
The pro Taylor response shouldn't be: "he hasn't been relegated" We want to aim higher than "not relegated" My comparison to Barton was merely to state its very far from an obvious upgrade. I’ve stated my pro Taylor response on here a couple of times. Re Taylor you being cold on him, you choose to miss out one had a grand budget and the other did it on peanuts I've answered- the money question to Gasdust. It's not a strict transferable skill. As for Taylor Positives- I've gone back a few pages and don't really see them? Genuinely interested as to what people believe that pick get us.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 17, 2023 9:37:08 GMT
Only toying with you Pirate! Point is, it’s easy to find fault with any manager Some guys just don’t fit at certain times with certain clubs I’m still in the keep Mangan and Whelan for this season, I wouldn’t be giving silly 2/3 year contracts, let him know the jobs there to be earned over a season, then we can assess then No stand out candidates for me thus far and it may well rock the boat if we have a new man with completely new tactics Whoever is in charge I’ll fully support, got my tickets for Derby, managed to persuade my son after his mental scarring after Cambridge UTG I agree that "some guys just don’t fit at certain times with certain clubs" which is why I previously said to daniel300380 that Taylor "did a good job at Exeter, but I just think it was the right fit with him at the club." We have similar Championship ambitions to Rotherham and are a similar sized club to them and his record there is poor. Personally I would look at the work highly-regarded Marcus Flitcroft has been doing at Exeter these past 5 years as Head of Recruitment and Performance Analysis and what impact he had behind the scenes and see if he would be worth recruiting to a similar role here. Like you say, some managers don't work out at certain clubs. So although we all like debating who will be the best fit us, until they do the job, we have no idea how they will get on. One minute I'm edging towards Taylor, the next minute, I think maybe someone else might be better. Most the managers have had good and bad spells. A lot will depend on how the interviews go, who has the best plan going forward. Who wants to bring in their own team etc. If I was the board, I would be taking my time and subbing my seeing what their plans would be with the academy, back room staff, in the transfer window in January etc. Without knowing the answers to those questions, it's hard to say who I want. If it's Taylor, he might be able to bring in the person you mentioned from Exeter. I will get behind who ever is given the job.
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Post by heartofgas on Nov 17, 2023 9:38:03 GMT
I'm so 50/50 on Mangan. His record is P5 W4 D1 L0. These were against weaker teams but you can only beat what is in front of you. Play wise I think we haven't looked great but just did enough in those games. I think he's done enough to give him some more time unless there is an outstanding candidate to come in. If someone does come in, we are either going to have to go for someone who has been out of the games for a bit or someone who plays anti-football. The only other option would be to spend big and go for an existing successful L2 manager. I don't see any obvious candidate so maybe Mangan is the best option for this season.
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Post by wallywalters on Nov 17, 2023 9:38:04 GMT
Horrible football club. Horrible man. want no links to him or Celtic at this club. So you want Scotty Sinclair out of the club then ?? In an ideal world I'd have no one at the gas with any links whatsoever to that awful football club and its disgusting supporters. I'd genuinely forgot about Sinclair so he can stay 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2023 9:42:58 GMT
I’ve stated my pro Taylor response on here a couple of times. Re Taylor you being cold on him, you choose to miss out one had a grand budget and the other did it on peanuts I've answered- the money question to Gasdust. It's not a strict transferable skill. As for Taylor Positives- I've gone back a few pages and don't really see them? Genuinely interested as to what people believe that pick get us. For me I think he plays good football , has done well at Exeter. Did struggle at Rotherham but I think Rotherham are a club who’ll be struggling to stay up no matter who goes in. Also developed players at Exeter well and I think the new owners will go big on the academy. Every manager has failed somewhere
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Post by albaron on Nov 17, 2023 9:43:11 GMT
So you want Scotty Sinclair out of the club then ?? In an ideal world I'd have no one at the gas with any links whatsoever to that awful football club and its disgusting supporters. I'd genuinely forgot about Sinclair so he can stay 🤣 Yes them and Rangers .
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Post by onefindunford on Nov 17, 2023 10:03:51 GMT
So you want Scotty Sinclair out of the club then ?? In an ideal world I'd have no one at the gas with any links whatsoever to that awful football club and its disgusting supporters. I'd genuinely forgot about Sinclair so he can stay 🤣 A good friend of mine is a Rovers and Celtic season ticket holder. are you saying that he’s a “disgusting supporter” and shouldn’t go to Rovers games?
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Post by wallywalters on Nov 17, 2023 10:16:48 GMT
In an ideal world I'd have no one at the gas with any links whatsoever to that awful football club and its disgusting supporters. I'd genuinely forgot about Sinclair so he can stay 🤣 A good friend of mine is a Rovers and Celtic season ticket holder. are you saying that he’s a “disgusting supporter” and shouldn’t go to Rovers games? Havnt got the time of day for Celtic or its fans so luckily hes not my friend so it's irrelevant to me.
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Nov 17, 2023 10:27:23 GMT
A good friend of mine is a Rovers and Celtic season ticket holder. are you saying that he’s a “disgusting supporter” and shouldn’t go to Rovers games? Havnt got the time of day for Celtic or its fans so luckily hes not my friend so it's irrelevant to me. Do you feel the same about Rangers, or is their version of performative bigotry (they both do it) somehow more acceptable?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2023 10:29:25 GMT
A good friend of mine is a Rovers and Celtic season ticket holder. are you saying that he’s a “disgusting supporter” and shouldn’t go to Rovers games? Havnt got the time of day for Celtic or its fans so luckily hes not my friend so it's irrelevant to me. Dear me.
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Post by wallywalters on Nov 17, 2023 10:37:19 GMT
Havnt got the time of day for Celtic or its fans so luckily hes not my friend so it's irrelevant to me. Dear me. It's ok to dislike football clubs and their supporters gasdust and live a perfectly normal life. Sorry to break it to you but we can't all get along in this world. But we can survive and tolerate one another. Anyway. Have we got a new manager yet?
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Post by wallywalters on Nov 17, 2023 10:40:22 GMT
Havnt got the time of day for Celtic or its fans so luckily hes not my friend so it's irrelevant to me. Do you feel the same about Rangers, or is their version of performative bigotry (they both do it) somehow more acceptable? Without wishing to derail yet another thread I don't have the same disdain for rangers supporters no. They don't boo our national anthem and hold up disgusting signs celebrating our queen's death. They also don't hold up Palestinian flags when a group of Palestinian terrorists have just committed one of the most brutal acts in recent years. I could go on and on about things I dislike about Celtic and the majority of its supporters but if you want to know more then pm me as this thread is not the place. Utg.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2023 10:46:49 GMT
It's ok to dislike football clubs and their supporters gasdust and live a perfectly normal life. Sorry to break it to you but we can't all get along in this world. But we can survive and tolerate one another. Anyway. Have we got a new manager yet? Do you not think that tarring ALL supporters of Celtic with the same brush because of the actions of a few is a bit childish though? No issue with you not liking Celtic as club but surely you can’t think that literally EVERY supporter of Celtic is the same?
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Post by DrFaustus on Nov 17, 2023 11:33:33 GMT
In an ideal world I'd have no one at the gas with any links whatsoever to that awful football club and its disgusting supporters. I'd genuinely forgot about Sinclair so he can stay 🤣 A good friend of mine is a Rovers and Celtic season ticket holder. are you saying that he’s a “disgusting supporter” and shouldn’t go to Rovers games? He does smell a bit, mind. 😎
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Post by lastminutewinner on Nov 17, 2023 11:34:56 GMT
I applaud anyone who watches Scottish football to be honest...
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Post by madgas on Nov 17, 2023 11:53:19 GMT
I've answered- the money question to Gasdust. It's not a strict transferable skill. As for Taylor Positives- I've gone back a few pages and don't really see them? Genuinely interested as to what people believe that pick get us. For me I think he plays good football , has done well at Exeter. Did struggle at Rotherham but I think Rotherham are a club who’ll be struggling to stay up no matter who goes in. Also developed players at Exeter well and I think the new owners will go big on the academy. Every manager has failed somewhere Interesting, I don't think I caught the home league 2 game so I'm less aware of the style.
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Post by DrFaustus on Nov 17, 2023 11:57:45 GMT
Havnt got the time of day for Celtic or its fans so luckily hes not my friend so it's irrelevant to me. Do you feel the same about Rangers, or is their version of performative bigotry (they both do it) somehow more acceptable? This is a fair point, just Celtic are worse. 😎 Up The Gers!
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Post by pirate on Nov 17, 2023 12:01:02 GMT
I've answered- the money question to Gasdust. It's not a strict transferable skill. As for Taylor Positives- I've gone back a few pages and don't really see them? Genuinely interested as to what people believe that pick get us. For me I think he plays good football , has done well at Exeter. Did struggle at Rotherham but I think Rotherham are a club who’ll be struggling to stay up no matter who goes in. Also developed players at Exeter well and I think the new owners will go big on the academy. Every manager has failed somewhere Rotherham were 8th and flying when he took over after Paul Warne had only lost 1 of the first 9 Championship games, with 1.56 PPM and a +6 goal difference. Fortunately for them they had that good start because the form dropped off a cliff with Taylor, subsequently losing 44% of his games with a 1.00 PPM and a -15 goal difference.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2023 12:03:00 GMT
For me I think he plays good football , has done well at Exeter. Did struggle at Rotherham but I think Rotherham are a club who’ll be struggling to stay up no matter who goes in. Also developed players at Exeter well and I think the new owners will go big on the academy. Every manager has failed somewhere Rotherham were 8th and flying when he took over after Paul Warne had only lost 1 of the first 9 Championship games, with 1.56 PPM and a +6 goal difference. Fortunately for them they had that good start because the form dropped off a cliff with Taylor, subsequently losing 44% of his games with a 1.00 PPM and a -15 goal difference. Loads of teams start well with a big bounce after promotion and then fall away, no guarantees that warne would have done much better. Hardly tearing up trees at Derby.
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Post by madgas on Nov 17, 2023 12:04:29 GMT
I'm not hugely against Matt Taylor. I do think he sits within the group of managers that Karl Robinson sits in. Reasonable CV and out of contract. For my money- Robinson is top of that category by some distance.
Would like us to go after a gaffer at another club though.
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