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Post by pirate on Nov 18, 2023 16:58:56 GMT
Spent 6 years working at Southampton under the likes of Harry Redknapp and reaching the FA Cup Final in his time there. Coles then followed Redknapp to Portsmouth, where he worked with internationals such as David James, Asmir Begović and Dean Kiely, plus of course also winning the FA Cup. He stayed at Portsmouth for a further two years under the management of Avram Grant, whom he then followed to West Ham United. If he's so great then why was Belshaw so poor last season? Anssi seems to be a full time coach so I'm sure he can look after Cox on his own. He's not a miracle worker and Belshaw's rushes of blood to the head and individual errors were inexplicable. Annsi is inexperienced and doesn't have anywhere near the contacts Coles will have built up over 30 years and I know he had his finger on the pulse regarding the best prospects coming through at the top level and promising talent coming through lower, including non-league GK's. |
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Post by badengas on Nov 18, 2023 17:20:36 GMT
"Stand between the sticks and stop the ball"
I can coach this goalkeeping malarkey.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 18, 2023 17:23:52 GMT
If he's so great then why was Belshaw so poor last season? Anssi seems to be a full time coach so I'm sure he can look after Cox on his own. He's not a miracle worker and Belshaw's rushes of blood to the head and individual errors were inexplicable. Annsi is inexperienced and doesn't have anywhere near the contacts Coles will have built up over 30 years and I know he had his finger on the pulse regarding the best prospects coming through at the top level and promising talent coming through lower, including non-league GK's. But what good as that achieved? Ward's been at the club since he was a youngster, Cox is only on loan and Hall wasn't even trusted in the EFL Trophy game, Coles contacts have brought one good permanent goalie to the club. Although if he's left us to return to Soton it could be he's just received a better offer anyway. |
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Post by singupgas on Nov 18, 2023 17:42:09 GMT
Who is now in charge of scouting and recruitment at the club? No one. We literally have jack happening - six weeks from the next transfer window. What's to worry ? Lyle Taylor to Wycombe is a potentially good signing btw. Hamer was right, we are the crazy gang. |
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Post by pirate on Nov 18, 2023 17:57:35 GMT
He's not a miracle worker and Belshaw's rushes of blood to the head and individual errors were inexplicable. Annsi is inexperienced and doesn't have anywhere near the contacts Coles will have built up over 30 years and I know he had his finger on the pulse regarding the best prospects coming through at the top level and promising talent coming through lower, including non-league GK's. But what good as that achieved? Ward's been at the club since he was a youngster, Cox is only on loan and Hall wasn't even trusted in the EFL Trophy game, Coles contacts have brought one good permanent goalie to the club. Although if he's left us to return to Soton it could be he's just received a better offer anyway. Surely you would rather have the benefit of those contacts and knowledge of keepers coming through at various levels, than not have them? If he is leaving for a better offer then fair enough, as a club they need to evaluate whether his 30 years experience can be let go without anybody else brought in to replace that know how. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 18, 2023 18:00:53 GMT
But what good as that achieved? Ward's been at the club since he was a youngster, Cox is only on loan and Hall wasn't even trusted in the EFL Trophy game, Coles contacts have brought one good permanent goalie to the club. Although if he's left us to return to Soton it could be he's just received a better offer anyway. Surely you would rather have the benefit of those contacts and knowledge of keepers coming through at various levels, than not have them? If he is leaving for a better offer then fair enough, as a club they need to evaluate whether his 30 years experience can be let go without anybody else brought in to replace that know how. There's little point if we don't use them, I doubt he had any input in Belshaw's signing so what have all those contacts achieved in the last few years? I assume he's mainly employed as a goalie coach and I doubt we need him & Anssi just to coach Cox, perhaps somebody else as come to the same conclusion. |
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Post by pirate on Nov 18, 2023 18:22:52 GMT
Surely you would rather have the benefit of those contacts and knowledge of keepers coming through at various levels, than not have them? If he is leaving for a better offer then fair enough, as a club they need to evaluate whether his 30 years experience can be let go without anybody else brought in to replace that know how. There's little point if we don't use them, I doubt he had any input in Belshaw's signing so what have all those contacts achieved in the last few years? I assume he's mainly employed as a goalie coach and I doubt we need him & Anssi just to coach Cox, perhaps somebody else as come to the same conclusion. The new manager may have utilised his knowledge and contacts better, who knows, but I would certainly rather have that experience and knowledge at the club than not. He was only here for 8 months the first time, then spent 8 months away from the club, before his return a year or so ago. The constant instability must have an unsettling effect. Coles was mentoring Anssi with "ongoing performance development needs" and he supported the recruitment and attended matches, who will be performing these duties now? |
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Post by gas2 on Nov 18, 2023 18:34:11 GMT
Always something going on at the club good or bad
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Post by Somersetgas on Nov 18, 2023 18:41:09 GMT
Oh well, no tears lost here, the guy will obviously leave Southampton at the next offer.
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Post by gasheadontour on Nov 18, 2023 19:32:59 GMT
I assume he was the senior coach and annsi his understudy. Coles doesn’t seem to last long many places does he? Spent 6 years working at Southampton under the likes of Harry Redknapp and reaching the FA Cup Final in his time there. Coles then followed Redknapp to Portsmouth, where he worked with internationals such as David James, Asmir Begović and Dean Kiely, plus of course also winning the FA Cup. He stayed at Portsmouth for a further two years under the management of Avram Grant, whom he then followed to West Ham United. Dean keily used to play for Bury... See Olly thread  |
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Post by gasify on Nov 18, 2023 19:53:27 GMT
Surely you would rather have the benefit of those contacts and knowledge of keepers coming through at various levels, than not have them? If he is leaving for a better offer then fair enough, as a club they need to evaluate whether his 30 years experience can be let go without anybody else brought in to replace that know how. There's little point if we don't use them, I doubt he had any input in Belshaw's signing so what have all those contacts achieved in the last few years? I assume he's mainly employed as a goalie coach and I doubt we need him & Anssi just to coach Cox, perhaps somebody else as come to the same conclusion. Why would you say that? I thought signing a goal keeper on a free from Harrogate Town shows that someone somewhere knew he was a good keeper. He still is. The rush of blood I saw was mainly due to playing three at the back and pushing them high up the pitch leaving a gap between the halfway line and keeper for a cheeky ball over the top. Exeter got us big time at home last year using that tactic. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 18, 2023 20:10:12 GMT
There's little point if we don't use them, I doubt he had any input in Belshaw's signing so what have all those contacts achieved in the last few years? I assume he's mainly employed as a goalie coach and I doubt we need him & Anssi just to coach Cox, perhaps somebody else as come to the same conclusion. Why would you say that? I thought signing a goal keeper on a free from Harrogate Town shows that someone somewhere knew he was a good keeper. He still is. The rush of blood I saw was mainly due to playing three at the back and pushing them high up the pitch leaving a gap between the halfway line and keeper for a cheeky ball over the top. Exeter got us big time at home last year using that tactic. Who knows perhaps he did and he's now taking the blame as it seems Belshaw will be off in January. |
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Post by gasify on Nov 18, 2023 20:37:44 GMT
Why would you say that? I thought signing a goal keeper on a free from Harrogate Town shows that someone somewhere knew he was a good keeper. He still is. The rush of blood I saw was mainly due to playing three at the back and pushing them high up the pitch leaving a gap between the halfway line and keeper for a cheeky ball over the top. Exeter got us big time at home last year using that tactic. Who knows perhaps he did and he's now taking the blame as it seems Belshaw will be off in January. The blame for what? Belshaw was a fantastic signing. |
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Post by aghast on Nov 18, 2023 20:45:35 GMT
Who knows perhaps he did and he's now taking the blame as it seems Belshaw will be off in January. The blame for what? Belshaw was a fantastic signing. Belly has gone from hero to villain to hero on here. |
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Post by gasify on Nov 18, 2023 21:08:07 GMT
The blame for what? Belshaw was a fantastic signing. Belly has gone from hero to villain to hero on here. Never a villain in my eyes. Quality keeper who did very well for us. |
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Post by percy on Nov 18, 2023 21:12:51 GMT
Some people really love to moan about absolutely anything
Enjoy your weekends people x
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Post by oldie on Nov 18, 2023 21:53:21 GMT
Bloody brilliant this
We appear to have got rid of everyone 😁
Or is it a case of lancing a boil?
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 18, 2023 21:58:43 GMT
Bloody brilliant this We appear to have got rid of everyone 😁 Or is it a case of lancing a boil? More like bringing the back room wage budget back under control? It seemed we had more back staff than players under JB. |
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Post by twertongas on Nov 20, 2023 13:37:37 GMT
I've got all his training kit off his daughter, happy days, DC isn't the worst initials to be wearing as a gashead lol
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Post by twertongas on Nov 20, 2023 13:39:31 GMT
Apparently not a fan of BRFC at all (wonder why) and more concerned about homeless dogs in India... Ive donated of course. Lol
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