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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 13, 2024 20:15:34 GMT
It's one Labour and about 50 Tories and there celebrations as if its 50-1 . We ain't had the decision from the Police or have we ?.
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Post by francegas on Apr 13, 2024 22:28:02 GMT
Keep up, it's now £17k that she should have paid back under the right-to-buy scheme because she was not living in the house she bought under it... Wanna bet that she doesn’t have to pay back a penny ? Of course she won't because Starmer has the police in his pocket. Like he did in Durham.
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Post by Gassy on Apr 13, 2024 22:35:01 GMT
Wanna bet that she doesn’t have to pay back a penny ? Of course she won't because Starmer has the police in his pocket. Like he did in Durham. 🤣 Ah yes, good old war lord Starmer 🤣
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Post by yattongas on Apr 13, 2024 22:45:17 GMT
Wanna bet that she doesn’t have to pay back a penny ? Of course she won't because Starmer has the police in his pocket. Like he did in Durham. Cuckoo
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 13, 2024 23:14:29 GMT
Wanna bet that she doesn’t have to pay back a penny ? Of course she won't because Starmer has the police in his pocket. Like he did in Durham. I thought it was Andy Burnham who controlled GMP? Didn't think you were really a conspiracy theorist.
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 13, 2024 23:30:48 GMT
Brenda from Bristol may have a choice phrase here. 😁
"Tim Loughton has represented the East Worthing & Shoreham constituency since 1997 and has won seven general elections.
The veteran backbencher, who served as deputy chairman on the Home Affairs Select Committee, posted on X (formerly Twitter) on Saturday, announcing the news, saying: "it was “wiser to leave five minutes too soon than to continue for five years too long".
He is the latest Tory MP to announce that they will not be seeking re-election in the next election.
Some 64 Conservative MPs have now said they will either stand down from the Commons or not seek re-election in their current constituencies.
In the last general election, Mr Loughton won the seat with a majority of 7,474 (14.1%)."
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Post by supergas on Apr 14, 2024 9:13:27 GMT
Incidentally I suspect she will have to pay something back to someone, either to the council for the right-to-buy discount she shouldn't have got, or for the council tax discount she shouldn't have got, or to HMRC for rental income that wasn't declared or for the Capital Gains Tax either she or her husband were liable for. Don't think she will end up being charged with Electoral Fraud because apparently it only has a 12 month statute of limitation so despite that being the law she broke that enabled all the others, unlikely the CPS can take any action... £20 to a charity of either choice that she doesn’t have to pay back a single penny. we on Super ? I'll take that bet. All we have to decide is when the investigations officially end (HMRC and the local council won't investigate whilst the police investigation is open and the police have not even sat down and had the meeting to decide what allegations against her they are actually investigating yet...)
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Post by supergas on Apr 14, 2024 9:23:40 GMT
Wanna bet that she is found to have broken at least one rule/law? Different to having to pay back anything... You already found her guilty. I thought that was the job of the police . The accusations isn't from the tax office or Police but a Tory MP. Why not wait until the Police give their verdict ?. We heard all that under Sir Keir Starmer from the Tories and he was found ' not guity'. Hence the massive lead in the opinion polls. A Tory MP made the accusation. The Police will make a decision. It should rest now!. She frequently judges others, calling for resignations/repayments/ritual sacrifices when allegations first air - no need to investigate, Rayner knows they are guilty and should resign - often based on their political allegiances rather than *any* actual evidence... In contrast I've looked at the allegations in the book, in the newspapers and by political investigative journalists. I've looked at the evidence these different groups have provided. I've looked what Rayner has said before the allegations aired (things she said on her personal social media) and since they aired (including the Newsnight interview where she got key facts about her own life wrong...). I've read the comments about her claims by neighbours at both houses and this morning by a political aide she worked with. Also in contrast to Rayner I've not rushed to judgement. It's was weeks after the first allegation that I reached my conclusion that she is probably guilty of one or more of the allegations, based on the weight of evidence that has now come out. Plus don't forget after the police there is HMRC and the local council waiting to investigate the other claims...
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Post by oldie on Apr 14, 2024 10:23:29 GMT
You already found her guilty. I thought that was the job of the police . The accusations isn't from the tax office or Police but a Tory MP. Why not wait until the Police give their verdict ?. We heard all that under Sir Keir Starmer from the Tories and he was found ' not guity'. Hence the massive lead in the opinion polls. A Tory MP made the accusation. The Police will make a decision. It should rest now!. She frequently judges others, calling for resignations/repayments/ritual sacrifices when allegations first air - no need to investigate, Rayner knows they are guilty and should resign - often based on their political allegiances rather than *any* actual evidence... In contrast I've looked at the allegations in the book, in the newspapers and by political investigative journalists. I've looked at the evidence these different groups have provided. I've looked what Rayner has said before the allegations aired (things she said on her personal social media) and since they aired (including the Newsnight interview where she got key facts about her own life wrong...). I've read the comments about her claims by neighbours at both houses and this morning by a political aide she worked with. Also in contrast to Rayner I've not rushed to judgement. It's was weeks after the first allegation that I reached my conclusion that she is probably guilty of one or more of the allegations, based on the weight of evidence that has now come out. Plus don't forget after the police there is HMRC and the local council waiting to investigate the other claims... You have to much time on your hands🤭 Anyway HMRC will be a concurrent investigation, I have no idea whether they are or not.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 14, 2024 14:02:44 GMT
Why don't the papers / media report the truth and the background and people who are making accusations?. Fair enough she is under a police investigation and if found guilty will pay a heavy price.
However : the two witness statements needs to be put in context . One is a Tory MP . The other it now appears had a personal run in with Raynor . He accused the department of unfair dismissal and prejudice. The Police should be made aware of any previous conflicts or disputes or political bias.
Quite simply anyone can make an accusation if they got an axe to grind. I think now the Police should be left to get on with their jobs and any additional Information should be passed to the police confidentially. The danger with close media attention (Daily mail) is that it can have the reverse effect and the C.P.S may advice against prosecution based on media pressures .
We want the truth and the Police should be given the time and focus now . If the Daily mail got any additional information give it to the Police!.
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 15, 2024 11:01:51 GMT
Michelle stopped working soon after her son Peter, 41, was diagnosed with cerebral palsy at 14 months. The mother of two, from Overton in Hampshire, says the money she receives from various benefits, including carer's allowance, does not go far enough and financially it is a "disaster" for her and her husband Tony, 72. The couple are having to dip into savings and live off Tony's pension pot - but there isn't much left. In 2015, Tony was treated for an aggressive form of prostate cancer which has left him weaker and made it harder for him to help with the day-to-day care of Peter, who is in a wheelchair. "I've been on antidepressants at times because it's not like we can just say 'I've had enough' and walk away," Michelle says. "I've got arthritis in my neck and lower back, which is apparently due to lifting and moving Peter around over the years. "If I go out anywhere I have just a couple of hours before I need to get back again. I've got to time it so Peter and my husband are not alone for too long. "It does take a toll, you end up not sleeping very well. "Financially, it's a disaster area. You save up for your old age but now you have to use it all to pay for the care." news.sky.com/story/money-blog-news-latest-consumer-financial-inflation-employment-rights-maternity-leave-cost-of-living-13040934?postid=7534788#liveblog-body
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 15, 2024 11:03:04 GMT
"TV presenter Kevin McCloud has criticised the "broken and dysfunctional" property market, saying it is being monopolised by big housebuilders. The Grand Designs presenter and designer said Britain was falling behind other European countries such as Germany and Sweden when it comes to housing development. "If I were the housing minister, I'd be looking at ways to break this monopoly that two or three companies have over the market," Mr McCloud said. He argued that quality and innovation was being stifled by a lack of competition between developers, which in turn makes the market more sensitive to downturns. "We have effectively a broken market, a dysfunctional market, it has been hollowed out," he added. "It means that when we hit difficulty, those companies nosedive and they buy each other out." " news.sky.com/story/money-blog-news-latest-consumer-financial-inflation-employment-rights-maternity-leave-cost-of-living-13040934?postid=7535350#liveblog-body
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 15, 2024 11:48:01 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Apr 16, 2024 11:24:55 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Apr 16, 2024 11:25:46 GMT
Don’t think this one really matters . It’s the other cases that count .
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Post by oldie on Apr 16, 2024 11:26:56 GMT
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Post by oldie on Apr 16, 2024 11:28:12 GMT
Don’t think this one really matters . It’s the other cases that count . In its nature perhaps not. But there will be more than a few that might think twice about voting for a convicted felon.
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Post by francegas on Apr 16, 2024 13:00:23 GMT
😂😂😂🙄🙄 On please. As in your words Yatton "cry me a f**king river". So we all have to feel sorry for Angie because she was bought up in poverty. Being bought up in poverty doesn't give you the right to not declare a profit that is subject to Capital gains tax by "potentially" lying and cheating the system. Maybe if she had got herself an education rather than getting knocked up ar age 15 she would know better. My wife was bought up in Ireland in real poverty (which I can guarantee was far worse than what Angie endured) and she has bought herself up with more morals in her little finger than what Angie has. So no I have zero sympathy for the tax dodger.
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Post by oldie on Apr 16, 2024 13:33:13 GMT
😂😂😂🙄🙄 On please. As in your words Yatton "cry me a f**king river". So we all have to feel sorry for Angie because she was bought up in poverty. Being bought up in poverty doesn't give you the right to not declare a profit that is subject to Capital gains tax by "potentially" lying and cheating the system. Maybe if she had got herself an education rather than getting knocked up ar age 15 she would know better. My wife was bought up in Ireland in real poverty (which I can guarantee was far worse than what Angie endured) and she has bought herself up with more morals in her little finger than what Angie has. So no I have zero sympathy for the tax dodger. You don't see the irony of her being chased by non Dom's?
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Post by yattongas on Apr 16, 2024 13:45:08 GMT
😂😂😂🙄🙄 On please. As in your words Yatton "cry me a f**king river". So we all have to feel sorry for Angie because she was bought up in poverty. Being bought up in poverty doesn't give you the right to not declare a profit that is subject to Capital gains tax by "potentially" lying and cheating the system. Maybe if she had got herself an education rather than getting knocked up ar age 15 she would know better. My wife was bought up in Ireland in real poverty (which I can guarantee was far worse than what Angie endured) and she has bought herself up with more morals in her little finger than what Angie has. So no I have zero sympathy for the tax dodger. You don't see the irony of her being chased by non Dom's? France is an absolute belter 😂 ! Droning on & on about Raynor and a few grand but absolutely no words said on the Tory corruption, tax evasion etc for literally millions of pounds . Honestly don’t know how he has the brass neck to post his nonsense 🙄
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