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Post by supergas on Apr 29, 2024 13:13:47 GMT
They spent a fortune converting an RAF plane to do this. 🤔 Apparently it was on other duties in Europe. Cameron's itinerary was pretty complex (Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan and Mongoli across 5 days) - no way to do that on commercial flights so you have to charter. He was also busy asking countries who are traditionally sympathetic to Russia to turn away from Putin so safety and security was also a key concern planning the trip - and the way they did it was probably the best all-round decision.
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 29, 2024 13:31:47 GMT
They spent a fortune converting an RAF plane to do this. 🤔 Apparently it was on other duties in Europe. Cameron's itinerary was pretty complex (Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan and Mongoli across 5 days) - no way to do that on commercial flights so you have to charter. He was also busy asking countries who are traditionally sympathetic to Russia to turn away from Putin so safety and security was also a key concern planning the trip - and the way they did it was probably the best all-round decision. Plenty of other aircraft in the fleet to choose from and could also have used other commercial aircraft. As for the visits, no complaints from me on that, very important.
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Post by francegas on Apr 29, 2024 13:32:21 GMT
They spent a fortune converting an RAF plane to do this. 🤔 Apparently it was on other duties in Europe. Cameron's itinerary was pretty complex (Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan and Mongoli across 5 days) - no way to do that on commercial flights so you have to charter. He was also busy asking countries who are traditionally sympathetic to Russia to turn away from Putin so safety and security was also a key concern planning the trip - and the way they did it was probably the best all-round decision. Been on the Easyjet website and I can't find any routing to cover those countries over 5 days.
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 30, 2024 10:09:54 GMT
John Swinney seems favourite and probably means any Vote of Confidence is likely to fail as the Greens would back him.
Kate Forbes may run too, she just missed out last time.
Didn't Nicola Sturgeon say that the PM lacked a democratic mandate as it was done effectively behind closed doors and should go to the polls?
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Post by Gassy on Apr 30, 2024 11:05:16 GMT
John Swinney seems favourite and probably means any Vote of Confidence is likely to fail as the Greens would back him. Kate Forbes may run too, she just missed out last time. Didn't Nicola Sturgeon say that the PM lacked a democratic mandate as it was done effectively behind closed doors and should go to the polls? Yes, this was brought up on 5Live this morning that the entire SNP were calling for it on Truss & Sunak. I was surprised not to hear SuperGas calling in to thold them to the same standards I guess politicians are hypocrits. Who knew?
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Post by francegas on Apr 30, 2024 11:23:49 GMT
John Swinney seems favourite and probably means any Vote of Confidence is likely to fail as the Greens would back him. Kate Forbes may run too, she just missed out last time. Didn't Nicola Sturgeon say that the PM lacked a democratic mandate as it was done effectively behind closed doors and should go to the polls? Yes, this was brought up on 5Live this morning that the entire SNP were calling for it on Truss & Sunak. I was surprised not to hear SuperGas calling in to thold them to the same standards I guess politicians are hypocrits. Who knew? Totally agree they're all hypocrits, how did Gordon Brown become PM.
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Post by trevorgas on Apr 30, 2024 11:52:04 GMT
Yes, this was brought up on 5Live this morning that the entire SNP were calling for it on Truss & Sunak. I was surprised not to hear SuperGas calling in to thold them to the same standards I guess politicians are hypocrits. Who knew? Totally agree they're all hypocrits, how did Gordon Brown become PM. He was told he could be PM after being locked in the toilet or was that Blair🤔
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Post by francegas on Apr 30, 2024 12:27:51 GMT
Totally agree they're all hypocrits, how did Gordon Brown become PM. He was told he could be PM after being locked in the toilet or was that Blair🤔 Couldn't have been Blair he was too busy killing innocent Iraqis and British Soldiers in an illegal war.
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 30, 2024 12:57:11 GMT
Totally agree they're all hypocrits, how did Gordon Brown become PM. He was told he could be PM after being locked in the toilet or was that Blair🤔 Didn't Boris hide in a fridge? 😁
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Post by trevorgas on Apr 30, 2024 14:34:44 GMT
He was told he could be PM after being locked in the toilet or was that Blair🤔 Didn't Boris hide in a fridge? 😁 There's no fridge big enough 🤣🤣
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 30, 2024 15:31:41 GMT
Didn't Boris hide in a fridge? 😁 There's no fridge big enough 🤣🤣 Are you referring to his physical size or his ego?
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Post by trevorgas on Apr 30, 2024 18:16:05 GMT
There's no fridge big enough 🤣🤣 Are you referring to his physical size or his ego? The latter!!
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Post by supergas on May 1, 2024 9:28:57 GMT
Apparently it was on other duties in Europe. Cameron's itinerary was pretty complex (Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan and Mongoli across 5 days) - no way to do that on commercial flights so you have to charter. He was also busy asking countries who are traditionally sympathetic to Russia to turn away from Putin so safety and security was also a key concern planning the trip - and the way they did it was probably the best all-round decision. Plenty of other aircraft in the fleet to choose from and could also have used other commercial aircraft. As for the visits, no complaints from me on that, very important. ...are there other aircraft in the RAF fleet with enough sleeping accommodation and working space/secure comms for multiple users? This sounds like one of those scenarios where the opposition are in uproar over the cost despite there not being any better options that were cheaper, as efficient and as secure...
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Post by supergas on May 1, 2024 9:38:15 GMT
John Swinney seems favourite and probably means any Vote of Confidence is likely to fail as the Greens would back him. Kate Forbes may run too, she just missed out last time. Didn't Nicola Sturgeon say that the PM lacked a democratic mandate as it was done effectively behind closed doors and should go to the polls? Yes, this was brought up on 5Live this morning that the entire SNP were calling for it on Truss & Sunak. I was surprised not to hear SuperGas calling in to thold them to the same standards
I guess politicians are hypocrits. Who knew? Sorry, was too busy laughing at Yousaf saying "I’ve heard they [the Greens] are upset, I’ve heard their anger, and I can honestly say that was not the intention." What did he think they would do when he scrapped the agreement with them that gave the SNP a majority? Turns out the SNP are (allegedly) more corrupt than the Conservatives and also have less political nous....
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Post by stuart1974 on May 1, 2024 10:47:48 GMT
Plenty of other aircraft in the fleet to choose from and could also have used other commercial aircraft. As for the visits, no complaints from me on that, very important. ...are there other aircraft in the RAF fleet with enough sleeping accommodation and working space/secure comms for multiple users? This sounds like one of those scenarios where the opposition are in uproar over the cost despite there not being any better options that were cheaper, as efficient and as secure... The short answer is yes, other Voyagers or purpose built aircraft within 32 Squadron whose role is to transport ministers.
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Post by francegas on May 1, 2024 11:59:54 GMT
...are there other aircraft in the RAF fleet with enough sleeping accommodation and working space/secure comms for multiple users? This sounds like one of those scenarios where the opposition are in uproar over the cost despite there not being any better options that were cheaper, as efficient and as secure... The short answer is yes, other Voyagers or purpose built aircraft within 32 Squadron whose role is to transport ministers. Just wondering if this was the same Squadron that ferried Starmer from Qatar to Dubai during Cop28.
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Post by stuart1974 on May 1, 2024 12:24:15 GMT
The short answer is yes, other Voyagers or purpose built aircraft within 32 Squadron whose role is to transport ministers. Just wondering if this was the same Squadron that ferried Starmer from Qatar to Dubai during Cop28. No, Starmer isn't a minister. Was his flight paid by the British tax payer?
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Post by yattongas on May 1, 2024 12:57:30 GMT
Just wondering if this was the same Squadron that ferried Starmer from Qatar to Dubai during Cop28. No, Starmer isn't a minister. Was his flight paid by the British tax payer? Roasted ! 😂
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Post by francegas on May 1, 2024 14:06:54 GMT
Just wondering if this was the same Squadron that ferried Starmer from Qatar to Dubai during Cop28. No, Starmer isn't a minister. Was his flight paid by the British tax payer? Also used for transportation of VIPs. Well your right that would count Starmer out then. 😂😂😂
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Post by stuart1974 on May 1, 2024 14:19:18 GMT
No, Starmer isn't a minister. Was his flight paid by the British tax payer? Also used for transportation of VIPs. Well your right that would count Starmer out then. 😂😂😂 That's a cheap jibe, France, unlike Cameron's hired jet. 😘
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