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Post by aghast on May 30, 2024 16:29:38 GMT
Can we get back to proper politics now?
Like the fact they are all promising to spend and spend without raising taxation by a penny?
Although the freeze on thresholds is a handy one. It's become the means of increasing income tax without having to mention it.
Who benefits from that? The poor? The needy?
Nope.
The rich.
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Post by yattongas on May 30, 2024 18:30:07 GMT
Another defection from the Tory party to Labour
Conservative Mark Logan defects to Labour - saying 'we need a new government'
Dan Poulter and Natalie Elphicke have also defected from the Conservatives to Labour recently, in a series of blows for Rishi Sunak.
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Post by Gassy on May 30, 2024 18:42:20 GMT
Can we get back to proper politics now? Like the fact they are all promising to spend and spend without raising taxation by a penny? Although the freeze on thresholds is a handy one. It's become the means of increasing income tax without having to mention it. Who benefits from that? The poor? The needy? Nope. The rich. Well Labour have said they won’t raise income tax, but will raise taxes (such as windfall) to pay for some schemes. Must admit I haven’t paid attention to Lib Dems, but I’m very curious where Sunaks money tree is coming from. He also seems to have gone quiet the last couple of days, wonder if they’re already reassessing their strategy?
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Post by aghast on May 30, 2024 19:20:24 GMT
Can we get back to proper politics now? Like the fact they are all promising to spend and spend without raising taxation by a penny? Although the freeze on thresholds is a handy one. It's become the means of increasing income tax without having to mention it. Who benefits from that? The poor? The needy? Nope. The rich. Well Labour have said they won’t raise income tax, but will raise taxes (such as windfall) to pay for some schemes. Must admit I haven’t paid attention to Lib Dems, but I’m very curious where Sunaks money tree is coming from. He also seems to have gone quiet the last couple of days, wonder if they’re already reassessing their strategy? I don't think the suggestion that pensioners will have tax thresholds preserved and increased by the triple lock will last much beyond the election, should Sunak get back in. It'll.be dropped as soon as the first mini budget is announced. Not that he'll get back in of course.
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Post by yattongas on May 31, 2024 14:22:22 GMT
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Post by Gassy on May 31, 2024 14:45:45 GMT
Is Rishi still campaigning? Haven't heard from him for days
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Post by aghast on May 31, 2024 21:56:38 GMT
Oops. Quits his job and then loses the chance of a new one. I don't mind him actually. I don't agree with many of his views but he's a rational well reasoned presenter. When he's not wrestling pensioners to the ground.
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Post by aghast on May 31, 2024 21:57:30 GMT
Is Rishi still campaigning? Haven't heard from him for days Yes he's busy saying he's going to crack down on fly tipping. 👍
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 1, 2024 8:25:53 GMT
Really? "Tories could be reduced to 66 seats at July election, new poll suggests The Labour Party could win the upcoming election by a landslide with a 302-seat majority, a new poll has suggested. The large-scale MRP polling, published by Electoral Calculus and Find Out Now, predicted that the Conservatives will be reduced to just 66 seats, compared to Labour with 476. In this scenario, the Tories would return just seven more seats than the Liberal Democrats, who would have 59. The poll also suggests that 18 cabinet ministers would lose their seats. They include: Oliver Dowden, James Cleverly, Grant Shapps, Penny Mordaunt, Kemi Badenoch, Claire Coutinho, Mel Stride, Gillian Keegan, Mark Harper, David Davies, Victoria Prentis, Esther McVey, Andrew Mitchell and Johnny Mercer. All of these seats would be lost to Labour, the poll suggests. The Multi-level Regression and Poststratification is a method of polling which Electoral Calculus claims has "successfully predicted the last two general elections". The polling of 10,000 people was conducted between 20 and 27 May." news.sky.com/story/general-election-live-uk-latest-politics-sunak-starmer-davey-economy-tax-immigration-tories-labour-lib-dems-12593360?postid=7755336#liveblog-body
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Post by yattongas on Jun 1, 2024 8:34:22 GMT
Really? "Tories could be reduced to 66 seats at July election, new poll suggests The Labour Party could win the upcoming election by a landslide with a 302-seat majority, a new poll has suggested. The large-scale MRP polling, published by Electoral Calculus and Find Out Now, predicted that the Conservatives will be reduced to just 66 seats, compared to Labour with 476. In this scenario, the Tories would return just seven more seats than the Liberal Democrats, who would have 59. The poll also suggests that 18 cabinet ministers would lose their seats. They include: Oliver Dowden, James Cleverly, Grant Shapps, Penny Mordaunt, Kemi Badenoch, Claire Coutinho, Mel Stride, Gillian Keegan, Mark Harper, David Davies, Victoria Prentis, Esther McVey, Andrew Mitchell and Johnny Mercer. All of these seats would be lost to Labour, the poll suggests. The Multi-level Regression and Poststratification is a method of polling which Electoral Calculus claims has "successfully predicted the last two general elections". The polling of 10,000 people was conducted between 20 and 27 May." news.sky.com/story/general-election-live-uk-latest-politics-sunak-starmer-davey-economy-tax-immigration-tories-labour-lib-dems-12593360?postid=7755336#liveblog-bodyAs I posted a few months ago , Carol Vorderman thought tactical voting could get them down to 70 seats . So sounds about right 😁👍
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Post by yattongas on Jun 1, 2024 8:36:05 GMT
Ps Badenoch would be a great Portillo moment should it happen
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 1, 2024 8:53:23 GMT
Ps Badenoch would be a great Portillo moment should it happen Not sure she is as high profile as Portillo was, JRM would be my equivalent. Liz Truss maybe.
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Post by trevorgas on Jun 1, 2024 8:54:50 GMT
Ps Badenoch would be a great Portillo moment should it happen Not sure she is as high profile as Portillo was, JRM would be my equivalent. Liz Truss maybe. She certainly doesn't have his intellect!!
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 1, 2024 8:57:57 GMT
Not sure she is as high profile as Portillo was, JRM would be my equivalent. Liz Truss maybe. She certainly doesn't have his intellect!! Great example of the phrase "better to keep quiet and let people think you are thick than open your mouth and prove it." Maybe she could front a travel show like Portillo does, one about car crashes. 🫣
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Post by trevorgas on Jun 1, 2024 13:32:30 GMT
She certainly doesn't have his intellect!! Great example of the phrase "better to keep quiet and let people think you are thick than open your mouth and prove it." Maybe she could front a travel show like Portillo does, one about car crashes. 🫣 Haha I like his travel shows ,he's a well read presenter who comes up with some interesting stuff .
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Post by yattongas on Jun 1, 2024 13:34:50 GMT
Ps Badenoch would be a great Portillo moment should it happen Not sure she is as high profile as Portillo was, JRM would be my equivalent. Liz Truss maybe. Yes but she’s the fav to be the next leader and she holds a higher position than Mogg. Not sure out of both of them is the most smug and self assured though !
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 1, 2024 20:22:50 GMT
"A new poll from Opinium has shown that Labour's lead has grown by six points in the last week - and is now at a high not seen since the Truss premiership.
Voting intention shows that 4% more voters say they will vote Labour, and the Tory share has dropped 2%.
Here is the breakdown:
Labour 45% (+4) Conservatives 25% (-2) Lib Dems 8% (-2) SNP 3% (+1) Greens 6% (-1) Reform 11% (+1)"
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 1, 2024 20:24:10 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Jun 3, 2024 7:43:50 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 3, 2024 8:25:56 GMT
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