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Post by yattongas on Mar 1, 2024 10:00:39 GMT
quick google at 2019 prices: *How much does it cost to build a natural turf pitch? A full-sized, natural grass sports pitch will cost £120,000 on average, however natural turf pitches can cost between £50,000 – £350,000 depending on the pitch specification, performance level and location. Pitch renovation generally costs between £15,000 – £20,000 for a full-sized annual pitch renovation. The main factors that will impact the overall pitch cost are: Size and dimensions of the pitch or pitches Scope of earthworks required Chosen drainage and irrigation systems Amount of sand required for amelioration into top soil Environmental mitigation methods Floodlighting, fencing and equipment requirements Additional work is also often required in the form of ancillary equipment (team shelters, pavilions, spectator areas) and civil engineering (access pathways, hard standings, roadways and car parks), so this may need to be factored into your costs. Please get in touch if you’d like an example of a detailed breakdown of project costs, or a quote on the cost of building a natural turf pitch for your needs.* Just have a look at the land those 13 pitches will be sited. That’s a LOT of work and costs. I’m sticking with 500k for decent standard pitches at the quarters . Not sure we can fit 13 full sized pitches, maybe some half sized ones too which would reduce costs. If anyone can find Womble's attempt at laying out pitches from the Quarters thread last year, it'll give an idea of the site. Yeah I posted something similar last week , can’t see where they’ll put the pitches but was told there’s more land behind the clubhouse. Boss man said 13 pitches 🤔 |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Mar 1, 2024 10:05:33 GMT
Did anyone ask why the ground capacity is 12500 . However away allocation is a mere 1300. This means we are losing 50k per game and up to 500k per season in lost revenue. For example Derby will be 9000 plus instead of a 12500 sell out . The same v Bolton Reading Pompey Charlton . Barnsley & Wigan would of brought a lot more . We don't need to ask that. We know that. You cannot give extra tickets to away fans in the South Stand as there is no way to keep them apart. Oh, he also said after that they were working with the council to get additional access to the south stand. The access way that was mentioned on the South Stand thread seems to be legit. What do you mean keep them apart ?. There's a massive sheet which can be moved up and down . Also there's a massive steel gate at the back of the stand . That's the simple bit ! |
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Post by jungleboogie on Mar 1, 2024 10:11:13 GMT
This was a post meeting question I asked TG last night I had been asked by two people to pose. "Why is there no financing on season tickets available?" TG said - Most of the smaller clubs use the same finance company & they had pulled there support for all the smaller clubs but were still trading with the bigger clubs. This had caught the Rovers by surprise as it wasn't expected! He did'nt expect to be able to get anything in place in the short term! To offer finance you have to be FCA regulated. An outside company can be employed to do that for you but they may have to be some kind of corporate partner and be vetted by the EFL or they may have looked at the numbers from their end and decided it wasnt worth their while. It would be interesting to know how many bought on finance last year and what the finance companies kick back was from the club. From memory, I think £15/20 was added to the price of the ST. |
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Post by blueridge on Mar 1, 2024 10:15:08 GMT
I was unable to attend the meeting last night, but I’ve read the comments on here from those who attended.
I will only give my pov on the The Quarters proposals which to me sound aspirational and not achievable.
The South Gloucestershire Local Plan for housing requirements (and other infrastructure) is also covered locally for its share of the housing requirements by Almondsbury Parish Council where The Quarters lies in Hortham. The plan clearly shows (red lined) the area which the club is proposing to sell off - the existing full size training pitches and goalkeeper training area. A full size pitch equates to around 1.75 acres so the total land in question will be something less than 5 acres to accommodate up to 70 homes which is in the plan. The whole Quarters site in total is around 28 acres - which is big by any standards and worth a lot of money - particularly if the 5 acres they're proposing to sell is going a long way, apparently, to fund the The Quarters upgrade. This land is potentially a big “gold nugget” - slightly worrying for me but my worries are possibly unfounded.
The document if anyone is interested can be Googled under Almondsbury Parish Council EPS- SV10.
As an add on Woodlands Golf Club,adjacent on the other side of the M5 is also in the Plan - up to I believe 900 homes initially to be built on it.
Ps 13 pitches - total bullshit!
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Post by wider on Mar 1, 2024 10:26:40 GMT
13 pitches? I thought what was said was we currently use 5 of the 30 acres at present but expect to increase to 13? Acres, not pitches? That’s my notes, I may have misunderstood? No he did say 13 pitches and then a joke was made about 13 being an unlucky number. Thanks, I heard the joke but misunderstood pitches/acres |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2024 10:30:02 GMT
Read the comments on here and a friend of mine went last night and recorded for me and I also listened this morning.
I’ve been a critic of the new owners, for sure they came in and made some rash decisions like offering the managers job to several people, cutting hotel accommodation, dragging our heels on player singing and manager support.
But and I say but, maybe they need grace on coming into a club haemorrhaging money and in total disarray. I just hope as well they have learn from their own mistakes.
I said it was common knowledge at the club and in football that the new owners pulled the plug on the JCH deal, at the time I was told I was making it up, I’m glad last night we got clarification of this.
I keep saying We Have Got Our Rovers back, maybe not 100% but it’s clear to see The Scouse Mafia given free rein by Wael and TG left this club in a terrible state. If any club took on the combo of Barton and Jennings again, I’d fear for their future.
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Mar 1, 2024 10:36:05 GMT
Not sure it's been mentioned before. There was a question about the OAP season ticket price increase was around 24% for the East Stand and a question was asked why it was so much bigger than the West stand. A couple of things that I didn't realise: There are only 1000 seats in the East and West stand combined. The East Stand tickets this season were cheaper than the West stand. Owners see the East Stand as the best seats in the house and couldn't understand why the were less than West stand. East Stand has just over 1000 not quite sure what west is but 300-400 sounds about right |
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Post by yattongas on Mar 1, 2024 10:37:53 GMT
Read the comments on here and a friend of mine went last night and recorded for me and I also listened this morning. I’ve been a critic of the new owners, for sure they came in and made some rash decisions like offering the managers job to several people, cutting hotel accommodation, dragging our heels on player singing and manager support. But and I say but, maybe they need grace on coming into a club haemorrhaging money and in total disarray. I just hope as well they have learn from their own mistakes. I said it was common knowledge at the club and in football that the new owners pulled the plug on the JCH deal, at the time I was told I was making it up, I’m glad last night we got clarification of this. I keep saying We Have Got Our Rovers back, maybe not 100% but it’s clear to see The Scouse Mafia given free rein by Wael and TG left this club in a terrible state. If any club took on the combo of Barton and Jennings again, I’d fear for their future. We pulled the plug on JCH because he tried screwing us over at the last minute. The fault lies entirely with him . |
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Post by kruger on Mar 1, 2024 10:44:08 GMT
Read the comments on here and a friend of mine went last night and recorded for me and I also listened this morning. I’ve been a critic of the new owners, for sure they came in and made some rash decisions like offering the managers job to several people, cutting hotel accommodation, dragging our heels on player singing and manager support. But and I say but, maybe they need grace on coming into a club haemorrhaging money and in total disarray. I just hope as well they have learn from their own mistakes. I said it was common knowledge at the club and in football that the new owners pulled the plug on the JCH deal, at the time I was told I was making it up, I’m glad last night we got clarification of this. I keep saying We Have Got Our Rovers back, maybe not 100% but it’s clear to see The Scouse Mafia given free rein by Wael and TG left this club in a terrible state. If any club took on the combo of Barton and Jennings again, I’d fear for their future. We pulled the plug on JCH because he tried screwing us over at the last minute. The fault lies entirely with him . Yeah but what about all the users on here that said it was Rovers fault, are you saying they were all wrong, naaa I don't believe it! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2024 10:48:28 GMT
Read the comments on here and a friend of mine went last night and recorded for me and I also listened this morning. I’ve been a critic of the new owners, for sure they came in and made some rash decisions like offering the managers job to several people, cutting hotel accommodation, dragging our heels on player singing and manager support. But and I say but, maybe they need grace on coming into a club haemorrhaging money and in total disarray. I just hope as well they have learn from their own mistakes. I said it was common knowledge at the club and in football that the new owners pulled the plug on the JCH deal, at the time I was told I was making it up, I’m glad last night we got clarification of this. I keep saying We Have Got Our Rovers back, maybe not 100% but it’s clear to see The Scouse Mafia given free rein by Wael and TG left this club in a terrible state. If any club took on the combo of Barton and Jennings again, I’d fear for their future. We pulled the plug on JCH because he tried screwing us over at the last minute. The fault lies entirely with him . That’s fine but why then throw the club secretary and CEO under the bus, we could have issued a statement saying JCH and his agent were greedy bastewards? If you tell the truth, there are no blurred lines 👍 |
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Post by gashead1981 on Mar 1, 2024 10:54:38 GMT
Read the comments on here and a friend of mine went last night and recorded for me and I also listened this morning. I’ve been a critic of the new owners, for sure they came in and made some rash decisions like offering the managers job to several people, cutting hotel accommodation, dragging our heels on player singing and manager support. But and I say but, maybe they need grace on coming into a club haemorrhaging money and in total disarray. I just hope as well they have learn from their own mistakes. I said it was common knowledge at the club and in football that the new owners pulled the plug on the JCH deal, at the time I was told I was making it up, I’m glad last night we got clarification of this. I keep saying We Have Got Our Rovers back, maybe not 100% but it’s clear to see The Scouse Mafia given free rein by Wael and TG left this club in a terrible state. If any club took on the combo of Barton and Jennings again, I’d fear for their future. We pulled the plug on JCH because he tried screwing us over at the last minute. The fault lies entirely with him . That was half the story that Tom told me in September. Bit disingenuous I thought that. |
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Post by somersetgas27 on Mar 1, 2024 11:04:42 GMT
Thinking about tonight’s claim that we’ll be spending 30-35m on the quarters creating 13 pitches and an indoor dome to make cat 1 academy and the stadium rebuild. Surely just the first part is going to cost £15 million (at least ) ? 500k a pitch at a guess plus the dome which must be at least a few million? Just the south stand was 3.1 M . Not sure the numbers stack up . 13 pitches? I thought what was said was we currently use 5 of the 30 acres at present but expect to increase to 13? Acres, not pitches? That’s my notes, I may have misunderstood? 13 pitches were mentioned, because someone said 13 is an unlucky number and Abdullalatif jokingly said ok 11 then! |
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Post by horfield on Mar 1, 2024 11:11:50 GMT
The thing that was also staggering was the admission last night of "The Fruit Market was nothing more than a concept, even if that mature!! This was quite a shocking revelation.
So thank you Wael for the announcement in Blackpol way back in August 2019 and Mayor Marvin for telling us the Mayors office was right behind the scheme along of course with the expensive commissioned drone movie convincing us the new stadium was around the corner. Not forgetting of course the 1.2 million hits on this forum by all of us regarding the FM.
We have all been mugged and duped !
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Post by Gastafari on Mar 1, 2024 11:17:17 GMT
Does anyone else think, "Yeah, ok. I don't believe you"? Might be just me overdosing on the cynicism biscuits. Hopefully wrong etc. Onwards and round and round. UT(F)G 🏴☠️🤡 We're Rovers fans. Any Gashead who denied having even an ounce of cynacism would be a liar 😁 |
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Post by yattongas on Mar 1, 2024 11:18:06 GMT
We pulled the plug on JCH because he tried screwing us over at the last minute. The fault lies entirely with him . That’s fine but why then throw the club secretary and CEO under the bus, we could have issued a statement saying JCH and his agent were greedy bastewards? If you tell the truth, there are no blurred lines 👍 Agree with that . |
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Post by gasify on Mar 1, 2024 11:29:15 GMT
We don't need to ask that. We know that. You cannot give extra tickets to away fans in the South Stand as there is no way to keep them apart. Oh, he also said after that they were working with the council to get additional access to the south stand. The access way that was mentioned on the South Stand thread seems to be legit. What do you mean keep them apart ?. There's a massive sheet which can be moved up and down . Also there's a massive steel gate at the back of the stand . That's the simple bit ! what about the concourse? |
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Post by gasheadontour on Mar 1, 2024 11:37:32 GMT
Regarding Cat 1 status so to be able to sign young players from outside the 90 min rule a club also has to provide accommodation and education. This can be the club paying for young players to stay at a local private boarding school so add another £1m per year for that.
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Post by daniel300380 on Mar 1, 2024 11:37:54 GMT
We pulled the plug on JCH because he tried screwing us over at the last minute. The fault lies entirely with him . That’s fine but why then throw the club secretary and CEO under the bus, we could have issued a statement saying JCH and his agent were greedy bastewards? If you tell the truth, there are no blurred lines 👍 At the time I expect we were considering going back in for him, so didn't want to throw JCH under the bus. They could have just said we couldn't agree terms though, instead of blaming someone else. Since then we signed Martin and Barton left. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Mar 1, 2024 11:41:58 GMT
Did anyone ask why do we bring everyone back for corners? Doesn't seem to be any comments on any questions direct to MT? Yes some one did and MT's response was we think its best to get everyone behind the ball for now until we strengthen . Whether that means we have no pace up front to take the ball away and hold up ie Collins I'm not sure. MT was a CB and knows what he is doing but I still don't understand this. If you leave 1 player upfield the opposition have to leave 2 marking him. That's 2 less opposition players in our box. Plus having too many players in the box surely adds to the confusion which will only benefit the attacking team, and if we do miraculously clear it, it comes straight back as it did from Carlisle and ends up in the net. Its not like we defend them any better/worse with 10 or 11 in there, as Jaydon Stockley would testify, but at least it gives us an outlet with 1 free |
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Post by faggotygas on Mar 1, 2024 11:44:25 GMT
Blimey glad you're not running the club  A grass pitch is about £100k, possibly less if you are creating a few at once. A domed artificial pitch is £1million tops, and can be hired out when the club aren't using it. quick google at 2019 prices: *How much does it cost to build a natural turf pitch? A full-sized, natural grass sports pitch will cost £120,000 on average, however natural turf pitches can cost between £50,000 – £350,000 depending on the pitch specification, performance level and location. Pitch renovation generally costs between £15,000 – £20,000 for a full-sized annual pitch renovation. The main factors that will impact the overall pitch cost are: Size and dimensions of the pitch or pitches Scope of earthworks required Chosen drainage and irrigation systems Amount of sand required for amelioration into top soil Environmental mitigation methods Floodlighting, fencing and equipment requirements Additional work is also often required in the form of ancillary equipment (team shelters, pavilions, spectator areas) and civil engineering (access pathways, hard standings, roadways and car parks), so this may need to be factored into your costs. Please get in touch if you’d like an example of a detailed breakdown of project costs, or a quote on the cost of building a natural turf pitch for your needs.* Just have a look at the land those 13 pitches will be sited. That’s a LOT of work and costs. I’m sticking with 500k for decent standard pitches at the quarters . You think each of the 13 pitches will be of the highest possible standard, and each will need its own floodlighting, pavilion, fencing, equipment, environmental mitigation, roadway and car park? |
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