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Post by lastminutewinner on Apr 19, 2024 10:31:46 GMT
It was said at the fans meeting a few months ago that JCH scuppered the deal by moving the goal posts….. 💴 But if you believe the official explanation we did eventually agree a deal with more than enough time to complete and was later revealed we even had help from the Peterborough Head of Football Operations to complete the paperwork. The deal was agreed with more than an hour to go to submit the paperwork and we missed the deadline by seconds, if you believe that. I see he scored 2 goals more against Fleetwood, within a minute, than we did against them in 2 games. He is a goal machine and we should do what we can to sign him. As a free now though others will be circling. On topic, no doubting Rossiter's ability but the guy has had injury issues his whole career that clubs with better facilities and backroom staff have not managed to resolve |
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Post by phillistine on Apr 19, 2024 10:38:55 GMT
But if you believe the official explanation we did eventually agree a deal with more than enough time to complete and was later revealed we even had help from the Peterborough Head of Football Operations to complete the paperwork. The deal was agreed with more than an hour to go to submit the paperwork and we missed the deadline by seconds, if you believe that. I see he scored 2 goals more against Fleetwood, within a minute, than we did against them in 2 games. He is a goal machine and we should do what we can to sign him. As a free now though others will be circling. On topic, no doubting Rossiter's ability but the guy has had injury issues his whole career that clubs with better facilities and backroom staff have not managed to resolve The JCH goals were in the closing minutes after Fleetwood had gone all out attack to try and rescue the game - which they should have won by all accounts. As for Rossiter - he has made a big difference - but is he one of the guys who was training away from the group up t'north - when he was fit |
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Post by pirate on Apr 19, 2024 11:15:50 GMT
But if you believe the official explanation we did eventually agree a deal with more than enough time to complete and was later revealed we even had help from the Peterborough Head of Football Operations to complete the paperwork. The deal was agreed with more than an hour to go to submit the paperwork and we missed the deadline by seconds, if you believe that. I see he scored 2 goals more against Fleetwood, within a minute, than we did against them in 2 games. He is a goal machine and we should do what we can to sign him. As a free now though others will be circling. On topic, no doubting Rossiter's ability but the guy has had injury issues his whole career that clubs with better facilities and backroom staff have not managed to resolve If we can agree a sensible deal with JCH then I would take him. It’s obvious he would like a move back to the area, with his father still living locally as confirmed by Darragh MacAnthony on his podcast. EDIT:Likewise with Rossiter, if we can agree a sensible deal then I would be tempted. He needs to be managed very carefully in future, even more than has happened in the past perhaps. I've followed his career very closely over the years and on occasions it did look like he was close to getting over his injuries, only to sadly pick up another niggle. Ryan Lowe spoke once about how he never missed a training session and was playing regularly at the time, but that might be part of the problem and Rossiter needs to be held back at times and saved from himself. |
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Post by socrates on Apr 19, 2024 11:44:22 GMT
Rossiter - if we can get positive news from the club doctors, I would risk a 1 year contract with our extension option. Hopefully he would show a little loyalty as we have paid him through the last couple of years, and not jump for a slightly better/longer offer elsewhere. Cant blame him if he did though, it is his livelihood after all. JCH - think it is very unlikely. Would we then let Martin go? Really dont want us paying for both of them, need money spent on speedy front men. Martin is top of the Goals Scored >75 minutes table (7) and could be brilliant to bring on for the last 20 in games once a strong speedy number 9 has ran the oppo defences ragged! If Rossiter can get through these next two games without breaking down then I agree a one year deal would be worth the risk. He’s such a good player. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Apr 19, 2024 12:11:54 GMT
I see he scored 2 goals more against Fleetwood, within a minute, than we did against them in 2 games. He is a goal machine and we should do what we can to sign him. As a free now though others will be circling. On topic, no doubting Rossiter's ability but the guy has had injury issues his whole career that clubs with better facilities and backroom staff have not managed to resolve If we can agree a sensible deal with JCH then I would take him. It’s obvious he would like a move back to the area, with his father still living locally as confirmed by Darragh MacAnthony on his podcast. EDIT:Likewise with Rossiter, if we can agree a sensible deal then I would be tempted. He needs to be managed very carefully in future, even more than has happened in the past perhaps. I've followed his career very closely over the years and on occasions it did look like he was close to getting over his injuries, only to sadly pick up another niggle. Ryan Lowe spoke once about how he never missed a training session and was playing regularly at the time, but that might be part of the problem and Rossiter needs to be held back at times and saved from himself. Still major injury doubts over Rossiter for me, more so than Grant and Ward combined. I would personally try and get in Brendan Sarpong-Wiredu, should have signed him from Colchester. Always seems to be fit and ive never seen him play badly. Bosun Lawal looks a player too but I think he is destined for better things. |
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Post by percy on Apr 19, 2024 12:32:21 GMT
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Post by Qatar Gas on Apr 19, 2024 12:43:45 GMT
This is one injury prone player I would take a gamble on. Even if you only get 20 games out of him, we will win many more points.
The problem is can you afford to have both Rossiter and Grant Ward knowing their injury records despite the fact we are a much better team with both of them in it. But in my opinion I would gamble on one of them and it would be Rossiter.
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Post by melrosegas on Apr 19, 2024 12:45:24 GMT
Good player but would only keep him on very reduced salary or pay-per-game basis.
One of our biggest issues this season has been our better players constantly injured (Hunt, Ward, Rossiter etc.)
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Post by toggsy2 on Apr 19, 2024 16:20:42 GMT
Interesting reading that article and when you learn why he was out for so long due to an infection caused by the operation a years contact with the option of a further year would be a good option.
Hopefully the worst is behind him now and he can back to his best, Bodin was a gamble when he joined and he didn't turn out to bad in the end, so there's no reason why the same couldn't be said about Rossiter
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Post by The Equaliser on Apr 19, 2024 16:32:23 GMT
So much potential, likened to Gerrard as a youngster and you can see why.
How it could have all been so different, you can almost match our downfall from his injury, we were balling and looking strong, after that injury (which I think we all knew would be a massive loss) we petered out and never really got going again.
I wouldn’t want to be the one to call it, but ‘if’ he ever gets back to long term fitness he could be our stand out/talisman player.
Stick or Twist?
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Post by bishgas on Apr 19, 2024 17:12:05 GMT
Tough one.
Has to be some sort of pay-to-play contract or not at all. This is a business and we are a squad with nightmarish injury levels.
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Post by pucklegas on Apr 19, 2024 17:36:16 GMT
Very talented player, a game changer on his day, full pre season and get him properly examined, then a 1 year deal which guarantees a second on completion of 75 % of matches.
He s worth a calculated gamble, but can t have him and Grant.
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Post by kovy on Apr 19, 2024 19:04:12 GMT
Very interested to see how he performs tomorrow. He obviously had an impact the past two games but it was Cheltenham and Cambridge to be fair. I'm very skeptical about giving him a new deal unless it financially benefits the club.
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Post by Somersetgas on Apr 19, 2024 19:46:44 GMT
Very interested to see how he performs tomorrow. He obviously had an impact the past two games but it was Cheltenham and Cambridge to be fair. I'm very skeptical about giving him a new deal unless it financially benefits the club. TBF it needs to work both ways. Let’s be honest he’s done more than that useless camel James Wilson in 110 minutes as opposed to his season. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 19, 2024 21:19:09 GMT
Very interested to see how he performs tomorrow. He obviously had an impact the past two games but it was Cheltenham and Cambridge to be fair. I'm very skeptical about giving him a new deal unless it financially benefits the club. If he plays 30+ games why wouldn't it financially benefit the club? Only the medics can say if that's likely, I assume they have the way MT's bigging him up. |
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 19, 2024 21:38:09 GMT
Hard choice for the club.
Whatever they decide will be wrong for some. The. problems with Jordan R has been made worse by Ward, Hunt, Wilson and Josh Grant being very injury prone. It’s meant a large number of the squad out, 20% (?) of the total. No way can we allow ourselves to be left so vulnerable by knowingly having so many players prone to long lay-offs.
I’m sure they’ll do something about assessing Jordan R after the season has ended by which time he’ll have had another two games to see how his body reacts. Then decide after taking medical advice. And I’m sure Jordan R will have his own opinion. It may be that he would rather relocate to the north and be nearer his family even if he has to drop down a league or two.
Of those 5 Jordan R is the best player and, if fit, would be most valuable to us. I’d say give him a year contract with conditions and look to replace the others but not an easy decision for MT ultimately.
UTG!
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Post by DrFaustus on Apr 19, 2024 21:52:08 GMT
A fit Jordan Rossiter is the best player in the division, bar none. We saw that in his first spell before injury and now again. I hope we keep him. 🏴☠️
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Post by madgas on Apr 20, 2024 9:00:17 GMT
I think this is one that the club have to rely on the medical reports.
If they agree with Rossiters assessment- its done, he's over it- no brainer, 1 year deal.
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Post by eric on Apr 20, 2024 9:13:29 GMT
I think this is one that the club have to rely on the medical reports. If they agree with Rossiters assessment- it’s done, he's over it- no brainer, 1 year deal. He’ll be over the infection but he still has a long history of serious knee problems which is why he’s played so few games going into his late 20’s. He’s clearly a class act when fit so and there will be some degree of an educated gamble in offering him a deal - unless the medical opinion was very damning I think we should give it a go. I think part of the problem is us having so many injured plagued players at the same time, a club in our position can have one or two gambles but not as many as we’ve had this season. Hopefully he’s playing today - I’ve enjoyed watching him play in the last couple of games. |
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Post by madgas on Apr 20, 2024 9:26:44 GMT
I think this is one that the club have to rely on the medical reports. If they agree with Rossiters assessment- it’s done, he's over it- no brainer, 1 year deal. He’ll be over the infection but he still has a long history of serious knee problems which is why he’s played so few games going into his late 20’s. He’s clearly a class act when fit so and there will be some degree of an educated gamble in offering him a deal - unless the medical opinion was very damning I think we should give it a go. I think part of the problem is us having so many injured plagued players at the same time, a club in our position can have one or two gambles but not as many as we’ve had this season. Hopefully he’s playing today - I’ve enjoyed watching him play in the last couple of games. I suppose I mean you've gotta rely on the medical staff in a total sense. RE previous injuries too. For me if there's a 50% chance he'll be able to play 38 games next season - do it. I suggest that's a huge risk, but totally worth the gamble. Rightly we won't know what the docs are saying and they won't be so quantitive. But my crass example illustrates the difficulty the club will have in communicating their decision. |
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