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Post by joefrankie on May 1, 2024 20:45:07 GMT
Why are the government paying for it?
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Post by returnofthedust on May 1, 2024 21:49:51 GMT
Fair play to them. Took over a historic club on its knees struggling in non-league and took them all the way to League One, increasing attendances from 4,000+ to 10,000+ along the way. The local area looks like its buzzing. I enjoyed watching the program and I'm happy for the loyal fans. The real test will be when they don't have success or anything new for a season or two. Will they get bored?? Will people get bored if watching the show, if it's similar every season etc. So far they have loaned money to the club, or secured finance for projects. Next season will be a big sign of what is to come. Will they up their investment?? I think it was the Peterborough chairman who said they were all talk when it came to JCH. They said they were interested, but when he said they would sell him, they went quite. I suppose that's better than pulling out at the last minute though 😂 He wanted 5 figures a week to drop into league 2. They were right to go quiet. |
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Post by rememberhalifax on May 2, 2024 3:24:25 GMT
Meanwhile Rovers finish 88th of the 92 league clubs in a survey of ' best away day experience' , no surprise there. ! sh-t 54 th, Gillingham 92ond, top 5 in order, Shef Utd, Forest, Spurs, WBA , Bradford city.
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Post by gasify on May 2, 2024 4:34:15 GMT
Meanwhile Rovers finish 88th of the 92 league clubs in a survey of ' best away day experience' , no surprise there. ! sh-t 54 th, Gillingham 92ond, top 5 in order, Shef Utd, Forest, Spurs, WBA , Bradford city. I surprised we are that low. Went to Cheltenham and had a lovely day out. 3 points and out singing the home fans. More teams have done that at the Mem than not this season. |
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Post by gaelgas on May 2, 2024 4:52:19 GMT
Published 7 hours ago Wrexham owners Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney say their long-term ambition is to increase the club’s stadium capacity to as much as 55,000. A new 5,500 all-seater stand is already planned at the Racecourse Ground as a replacement for the Kop end, which has been unused since 2007. I would be happy with 25,000 UTG Have they really got a fan base to fill such a stadium when Wreham's population is only 135K? www.theguardian.com/football/2024/may/01/wrexham-racecourse-ground-rob-mcelhenney-ryan-reynolds#:~:text=Wrexham's%20owners%2C%20Rob%20McElhenney%20and,with%20up%20to%2055%2C000%20seats. That's in the whole county borough, Wrexham itself has 45,000. That said, the fan base is a lot bigger than that, both sides of the (very) close border. 55,000 though? Ludicrous, that would be like Hoffenheim building a 35,000 seater stadium, oh wait.... |
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Post by daniel300380 on May 2, 2024 5:16:56 GMT
I enjoyed watching the program and I'm happy for the loyal fans. The real test will be when they don't have success or anything new for a season or two. Will they get bored?? Will people get bored if watching the show, if it's similar every season etc. So far they have loaned money to the club, or secured finance for projects. Next season will be a big sign of what is to come. Will they up their investment?? I think it was the Peterborough chairman who said they were all talk when it came to JCH. They said they were interested, but when he said they would sell him, they went quite. I suppose that's better than pulling out at the last minute though 😂 He wanted 5 figures a week to drop into league 2. They were right to go quiet. He made it sound like they didn't even make a bid. That they were all talk. That might have been after speaking to him without their permission though. |
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Post by Marshy on May 2, 2024 6:23:43 GMT
That's in the whole county borough, Wrexham itself has 45,000. That said, the fan base is a lot bigger than that, both sides of the (very) close border. 55,000 though? Ludicrous, that would be like Hoffenheim building a 35,000 seater stadium, oh wait.... Ha ha they are getting a bit above their station, this reminds me of Darlington the Reynolds arena, that turned out well! 😤 All fine until the playboy yanks get bored & feck off, another white elephant in the making. |
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Post by supergas on May 2, 2024 9:15:36 GMT
Why are the government paying for it? It's complicated and not all quite in the public domain yet. Basically a lot of the land around the stadium is publicly owned and is a key part of the city. So the local council, the Welsh Government, University, the football club, Transport for Wales and the Football Association of Wales (FAW) applied to the UK government's levelling up fund for cash to regenerate that whole area - including upgrading the train station, new office space, upgraded civic spaces, increased connectivity for rail and bus users as well as a new hotel, conference facilities and club office space planned along with a new Kop stand for the football club. They got a grant for the first lot (mostly benefiting the public) but were rejected for the second lot (mostly benefiting the private sector) so decided to reallocate some of the money from the former to the latter. They say each £1 invested in this scheme will result in £3 of public benefit, as well as creating 700+ new jobs. To be fair to Reynolds, McElhenney and the club, the overall plan and the first part of the investment was all agreed before the Hollywood millionaires bought them, however the closed-session council meeting that re-allocated the funding to prioritize the football stand over public amenities was well after they could see how to make themselves popular with the new owners... |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on May 2, 2024 11:48:32 GMT
He wanted 5 figures a week to drop into league 2. They were right to go quiet. He made it sound like they didn't even make a bid. That they were all talk. That might have been after speaking to him without their permission though. The Peterborough owner seems to have a lot to say publicly about other clubs, what their budgets are etc - I wonder how much of it is bullsh*t. |
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Post by willytopp84 on May 2, 2024 12:36:43 GMT
Alot of bullshit seems to come out of the Peterbrough chairman's mouth 😁
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Post by Kipper on Jun 6, 2024 10:12:25 GMT
A 55,000 sized stadium for Rovers will remain an eternal pipe dream!
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Post by bidefordgas on Jun 6, 2024 10:31:01 GMT
A 55,000 sized stadium for Rovers will remain an eternal pipe dream! As it will for Wrexham! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 6, 2024 17:29:30 GMT
Why are the government paying for it? It's complicated and not all quite in the public domain yet. Basically a lot of the land around the stadium is publicly owned and is a key part of the city. So the local council, the Welsh Government, University, the football club, Transport for Wales and the Football Association of Wales (FAW) applied to the UK government's levelling up fund for cash to regenerate that whole area - including upgrading the train station, new office space, upgraded civic spaces, increased connectivity for rail and bus users as well as a new hotel, conference facilities and club office space planned along with a new Kop stand for the football club. They got a grant for the first lot (mostly benefiting the public) but were rejected for the second lot (mostly benefiting the private sector) so decided to reallocate some of the money from the former to the latter. They say each £1 invested in this scheme will result in £3 of public benefit, as well as creating 700+ new jobs. To be fair to Reynolds, McElhenney and the club, the overall plan and the first part of the investment was all agreed before the Hollywood millionaires bought them, however the closed-session council meeting that re-allocated the funding to prioritize the football stand over public amenities was well after they could see how to make themselves popular with the new owners... How can anybody quantify "public benefit" in monetary terms? The whole Wrexham bandwagon seems to be built on the owners staying on board as if they ever quit Wrexham would go back to being a poorly supported L1/L2 side. |
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Post by curlywurly on Jun 6, 2024 22:43:17 GMT
Meanwhile Rovers finish 88th of the 92 league clubs in a survey of ' best away day experience' , no surprise there. ! sh-t 54 th, Gillingham 92ond, top 5 in order, Shef Utd, Forest, Spurs, WBA , Bradford city. Gotta be frank - the away day experience at Bramhall Lane is pretty dire and it is dangerous at the Hawthorns. |
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Post by supergas on Jun 7, 2024 10:10:16 GMT
It's complicated and not all quite in the public domain yet. Basically a lot of the land around the stadium is publicly owned and is a key part of the city. So the local council, the Welsh Government, University, the football club, Transport for Wales and the Football Association of Wales (FAW) applied to the UK government's levelling up fund for cash to regenerate that whole area - including upgrading the train station, new office space, upgraded civic spaces, increased connectivity for rail and bus users as well as a new hotel, conference facilities and club office space planned along with a new Kop stand for the football club. They got a grant for the first lot (mostly benefiting the public) but were rejected for the second lot (mostly benefiting the private sector) so decided to reallocate some of the money from the former to the latter. They say each £1 invested in this scheme will result in £3 of public benefit, as well as creating 700+ new jobs. To be fair to Reynolds, McElhenney and the club, the overall plan and the first part of the investment was all agreed before the Hollywood millionaires bought them, however the closed-session council meeting that re-allocated the funding to prioritize the football stand over public amenities was well after they could see how to make themselves popular with the new owners... How can anybody quantify "public benefit" in monetary terms? The whole Wrexham bandwagon seems to be built on the owners staying on board as if they ever quit Wrexham would go back to being a poorly supported L1/L2 side. You don't think upgrading the rail and bus station would benefit the public? Even the office space in the first phase would bring a benefit to the area as other local businesses (cafes/shops/pubs) would benefit from more people working in the area. I agree none of this should be done just because the owners are movie stars - but as I mentioned it was all planned and agreed before they took over. I think they'll find it impossible to get similar funding for any other stadium upgrades. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 7, 2024 15:53:45 GMT
All the articles I read suggested the funding was to support the ground developments not to support any developments around the ground, clearly the leveling up fund didn't feel it warranted their funding.
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