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Post by gasify on Oct 20, 2024 10:38:26 GMT
I call this out as BS. In prematch interviews, he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. If he says, the opposition are sh.it some would acuse him of doing their team talk. It's a ridiculous comment. As for alienates fans. In the eyes of some fans, he was 'dead man walking' from the first minute of his first game against Cheltenham. Why should he bother trying to be friends with fans who would never accept him? I think your comments are ridiculous . Nothing wrong in honest opinions and saying what you see with your own eyes Absolutely and I see some kind of playground type pile on. Since he has been at the club, the 'fans' have basically taken part in cyber bullying of him. I just think the bigging up the opposition as being in the same vein as he delivers to many instructions from the side of the pitch. Both comments completely ridiculous. |
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Post by wallywalters on Oct 20, 2024 10:55:28 GMT
Tuesday is massive. We simply have to beat the teams below us. Let's see if the players put in a performance for the manager. What a depressing thought. For the rest of the season we’re in a mini league with the six teams below us and that’s it. Not much to look forward to. Win or lose tuesday let’s just get him out the door and get some fresh energy and positivity into the place. Burton fans said we are the worst team they have played this season. From what I have seen so far we are definitely in the bottom six worst teams in this league. What a depressing thought. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 20, 2024 11:06:56 GMT
[quote author=" returnofthedust" source="/post/1037236/thread" timestamp=" I was a big advocate of him coming in and enjoyed the wind up on here but it’s time to go now. So you did. At my advanced years my memory is not too good, but I seem to remember you were very vocal about what a wonderful manager he was going to be. Hey ho. 70% my thoughts 30% wind up. It’s a shame it hasn’t worked, I seem to recall at the time it was reported that WAQ was heavily involved in the selection process and Taylor was “his man” Let’s hope he doesn’t have much involvement when the inevitable happens because his record of picking managers is, in the main, woefully bad [/quote]Only reported by Pirate who also suggested that nobody wanted to sign for us this summer before we signed 16 players. It would be strange if a supposedly control freak like the VP let Wael have total control over appointing the manager, particularly when he clearly had no involvement in dismissing JB. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 20, 2024 11:09:01 GMT
You can c why Rotherham fans were glad to c the back of him They are probably no more happy with his replacement? |
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Post by returnofthedust on Oct 20, 2024 11:14:27 GMT
So you did. At my advanced years my memory is not too good, but I seem to remember you were very vocal about what a wonderful manager he was going to be. Hey ho. 70% my thoughts 30% wind up. It’s a shame it hasn’t worked, I seem to recall at the time it was reported that WAQ was heavily involved in the selection process and Taylor was “his man” Let’s hope he doesn’t have much involvement when the inevitable happens because his record of picking managers is, in the main, woefully bad Only reported by Pirate who also suggested that nobody wanted to sign for us this summer before we signed 16 players. It would be strange if a supposedly control freak like the VP let Wael have total control over appointing the manager, particularly when he clearly had no involvement in dismissing JB. [/quote] Also reported by the post. Go back to bed topper. |
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Post by nsblue on Oct 20, 2024 11:35:44 GMT
Only those who watched the game will know how bad we really were, the talk from Terriers fans is that was their best performance of the season so far.
Was that because we were so poor we made them look that good or were they that good they made us look that poor?
My gut instinct is that anything other than a convincing win v Shrewsbury (both in terms of performance and result) will see him leave.
We need to go on a run of games where performances and results improve and we pull away from the bottom 4 to give him some breathing space. Realistically I cannot see this happening and he looks like a manager who knows the axe will fall, just a question of when.
I could have accepted a season of relative struggle, as long as relegation was avoided, whilst the players settle in and develop, but the poor football on show week in week out makes it difficult to watch us on the telly, let alone make the journey to the Mem.
I don't think it is in his nature, but I would rather he goes down fighting and put out an attacking team to win and entertain and see what happens.
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Post by yategasman on Oct 20, 2024 11:52:18 GMT
What do we think the issue is, are the players not playing for the manager or are the players just not good enough, surely professional pride must kick in when these “Players” Cross the line I didn’t go yesterday but it sounds like there wasn’t a lot of pride for themselves the shirt or especially the FANS !🤬
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Post by gasheadontour on Oct 20, 2024 12:19:17 GMT
You can c why Rotherham fans were glad to c the back of him It is depressing but that's where we are at tge moment. I'll be there Tuesday I've spoken to some Rotherham fans who didn't have anything bad to say about MT. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Oct 20, 2024 12:20:17 GMT
What a depressing thought. For the rest of the season we’re in a mini league with the six teams below us and that’s it. Not much to look forward to. Win or lose tuesday let’s just get him out the door and get some fresh energy and positivity into the place. Burton fans said we are the worst team they have played this season. From what I have seen so far we are definitely in the bottom six worst teams in this league. What a depressing thought. Not good for them then as we beat them 1-3 |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 20, 2024 12:42:07 GMT
What do we think the issue is, are the players not playing for the manager or are the players just not good enough, surely professional pride must kick in when these “Players” Cross the line I didn’t go yesterday but it sounds like there wasn’t a lot of pride for themselves the shirt or especially the FANS !🤬 You can virtually guarantee if MT is replaced then for a few games the players will be good enough before reverting to form. Apart from the EA/AC inspired promotion we seem to have been the same ever since GC jumped ship. |
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Post by northridinggas on Oct 20, 2024 12:45:08 GMT
What do we think the issue is, are the players not playing for the manager or are the players just not good enough, surely professional pride must kick in when these “Players” Cross the line I didn’t go yesterday but it sounds like there wasn’t a lot of pride for themselves the shirt or especially the FANS !🤬 For me the key issue is the apparent lack of a structure or obvious game plan. On the few occasions someone came forward there was rarely someone running into space to receive the ball. This got better after the substitutions but still too many hit and hope or passing back to the defenders. Similarly with the press, we seem to do it effectively for a few minutes and then drift deeper and deeper. Some of this you can blame on the inexperience of some of the players but ultimately this is down to the manager |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 20, 2024 13:13:23 GMT
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Post by wertongas on Oct 20, 2024 13:42:00 GMT
Luton and Oxford hardly have better stadium and they've managed to progress so it's not that holding us back, plus the owners have been content to right off £3m/£4m a season so that 7/8K crowds effectively becomes 12K+ turnover wise, we should be competing with the likes of Blackpool & Lincoln not the Shrewsbury's of L1. Regardless it would be OK if we were a mid table club with the hope we could push on but we a club just outside the bottom 4 with a good chance a couple of bad results could plunge us into a relegation fight, plus what enjoyment does any fan, even the biggest happy clappers, get from watching us lose virtually every away game? It's baffling how any fan can try and make out MT's having a good season when he's probably a loss or two away from getting sacked. I didn’t say we’re having a good season. The football is dire and we’re 5 points off the play offs and 5 off relegation it is what it is we all know it. Also in my opinion Lincoln are punching slightly above their weight currently and Blackpool are only a couple of points above us and underachieving for the size of club they are. We’re doing neither just bumbling along in the bottom half of league 1 like we’ve done half of the time in the last 20 odd years, the other half of that we’ve been in league 2. I want better we all do but just because we signed a player for £500k ( big wow ) doesn’t mean we’re going to be challenging for honours. Also if you think our stadium and gates aren’t holding is back then you’re deluded. Occasionally a club with a small stadium and gates get it bang on but generally clubs with our set up and facilities are league 1 or 2. Throwing our toys out of the pram because we haven’t done a Luton is just plain silly. Agree with allot of what you are saying. I think we also signed more players than we needed to and then picked them for the first team to quickly . Good managers often introduce new players slowly into the first team a few at a time, give them time to get to know and gel with the existing players. On top of that we don't play to our strengths, playing three at the back leaves our defence open and gives the opposition to much space, which is not helped by trying to play wingers and defenders as wing backs. Thomas is and Sousa are really wingers and Hunt is a fullback not wing back. so play them in there correct positions they are good players, if used properly . i would send back Forbes and O Donka, why sign a forward who has a scoring average of a goal every 20 games. I don't think Griffiths is much better than Jed Ward, bring back Ward and sign a more experienced keeper on loan to compete with him . Taylor is a frustrating manager who needs to be more flexible, he is causing the players to lose confidence. |
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Post by nailseamark on Oct 20, 2024 13:46:19 GMT
I may be wrong but it feels like we’ve struggled to beat Shrewsbury in recent years. That home game last season? Was the most dire I’ve watched in Rovers existence.
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Post by keygas on Oct 20, 2024 13:47:47 GMT
I’ve no problem of ending MT’s tenure, as in my opinion the majority of performances under him have been lacklustre & tactical inept, but I’ve haven’t got too much confidence in our owners ability to appoint a suitable replacement.
On a more positive note I’ve just read that Rovers had an away following of 811 yesterday, which considering the distance & the start of the season we’ve had is quality & the fans deserve better than what’s being served up at the moment.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 20, 2024 14:09:35 GMT
I didn’t say we’re having a good season. The football is dire and we’re 5 points off the play offs and 5 off relegation it is what it is we all know it. Also in my opinion Lincoln are punching slightly above their weight currently and Blackpool are only a couple of points above us and underachieving for the size of club they are. We’re doing neither just bumbling along in the bottom half of league 1 like we’ve done half of the time in the last 20 odd years, the other half of that we’ve been in league 2. I want better we all do but just because we signed a player for £500k ( big wow ) doesn’t mean we’re going to be challenging for honours. Also if you think our stadium and gates aren’t holding is back then you’re deluded. Occasionally a club with a small stadium and gates get it bang on but generally clubs with our set up and facilities are league 1 or 2. Throwing our toys out of the pram because we haven’t done a Luton is just plain silly. Agree with allot of what you are saying. I think we also signed more players than we needed to and then picked them for the first team to quickly . Good managers often introduce new players slowly into the first team a few at a time, give them time to get to know and gel with the existing players. On top of that we don't play to our strengths, playing three at the back leaves our defence open and gives the opposition to much space, which is not helped by trying to play wingers and defenders as wing backs. Thomas is and Sousa are really wingers and Hunt is a fullback not wing back. so play them in there correct positions they are good players, if used properly . i would send back Forbes and O Donka, why sign a forward who has a scoring average of a goal every 20 games. I don't think Griffiths is much better than Jed Ward, bring back Ward and sign a more experienced keeper on lone to compete with him . Taylor is a frustrating manager who needs to be more flexible, he is causing the players to lose confidence. Sousa is a full back or wing back he's not a winger, no idea about Forbes as he's hardly played, although knowing Rovers he'll be playing in West Ham's first team next season! Personally I thought O'Donker looked a decent player for somebody so young. Griffiths is a year or two ahead of Ward, the danger is the latters confidence would be sh** conceding 3+ goals every away game, at the moment JG is probably our player of the year. It seems whenever we revert to 4-4-2 we always outperform the opposition, it seems odd MT never starts with that formation. |
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Post by wertongas on Oct 20, 2024 14:18:54 GMT
Team often only seems to play for 45 minuets at best , players lack confidence and against better teams and just seem to give up and except defeat Taylor seems to struggle as a motivator. Problem is with us playing the top four between now and Christmas things are going to get tougher, if something isn't done we could get dragged into the bottom four again.
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Post by mrgasman on Oct 20, 2024 14:27:54 GMT
It is depressing but that's where we are at tge moment. I'll be there Tuesday I've spoken to some Rotherham fans who didn't have anything bad to say about MT. Lucky you, that’s as rarity. |
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Post by wertongas on Oct 20, 2024 14:46:42 GMT
Agree with allot of what you are saying. I think we also signed more players than we needed to and then picked them for the first team to quickly . Good managers often introduce new players slowly into the first team a few at a time, give them time to get to know and gel with the existing players. On top of that we don't play to our strengths, playing three at the back leaves our defence open and gives the opposition to much space, which is not helped by trying to play wingers and defenders as wing backs. Thomas is and Sousa are really wingers and Hunt is a fullback not wing back. so play them in there correct positions they are good players, if used properly . i would send back Forbes and O Donka, why sign a forward who has a scoring average of a goal every 20 games. I don't think Griffiths is much better than Jed Ward, bring back Ward and sign a more experienced keeper on lone to compete with him . Taylor is a frustrating manager who needs to be more flexible, he is causing the players to lose confidence. Sousa is a full back or wing back he's not a winger, no idea about Forbes as he's hardly played, although knowing Rovers he'll be playing in West Ham's first team next season! Personally I thought O'Donker looked a decent player for somebody so young. Griffiths is a year or two ahead of Ward, the danger is the latters confidence would be sh** conceding 3+ goals every away game, at the moment JG is probably our player of the year. It seems whenever we revert to 4-4-2 we always outperform the opposition, it seems odd MT never starts with that formation. Sousa kooks his best when attacking the oppositions box, When Chris Martin is fit, we should send O Donka back as well as Griffiths and possibly Forbes and sign an experienced quality goalkeeper and defender. Young Loan goalkeepers never seem to do well at the club, we also seem to struggle when we have wholesale changes, such as under Graydon, that hopeless manager we brought in from Torquay and Garner to mention a few. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Oct 20, 2024 14:56:19 GMT
Sousa is a full back or wing back he's not a winger, no idea about Forbes as he's hardly played, although knowing Rovers he'll be playing in West Ham's first team next season! Personally I thought O'Donker looked a decent player for somebody so young. Griffiths is a year or two ahead of Ward, the danger is the latters confidence would be sh** conceding 3+ goals every away game, at the moment JG is probably our player of the year. It seems whenever we revert to 4-4-2 we always outperform the opposition, it seems odd MT never starts with that formation. Sousa kooks his best when attacking the oppositions box, When Chris Martin is fit, we should send O Donka back as well as Griffiths and possibly Forbes and sign an experienced quality goalkeeper and defender. Young Loan goalkeepers never seem to do well at the club, we also seem to struggle when we have wholesale changes, such as under Graydon, that hopeless manager we brought in from Torquay and Garner to mention a few. Seems to me Griffiths is not the problem but failing to defend adequately. Odonkor is one of our better players unless he’s injured for a while. |
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