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Post by gassince1957 on Oct 29, 2024 18:54:19 GMT
Oh look - another cunningly disguised "let's sack MT thread"! How's talking about MT's replacement disguising anything, it seems pretty blatant what the OP is suggesting to me. We need a sarcasm emoji - I was clearly being sarcastic but am fed up with all the anti-MT threads! |
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Post by southstandblue on Oct 29, 2024 19:26:18 GMT
It is frequently stated by certain posters that The Grecians are a model club where everything is rosy. Some posters praise their fan ownership approach and suggest this is an ideal way forward for Bristol Rovers. They have earned huge sums over the last decade from player sales. If this "gravy train" is not regularly boosted their club faces financial issues of a pressing nature. Their best business was the sale of Ollie Watkins. It is estimated that roughly £6million has been the income derived from his transfer to date. Exeter City earned £1.8m when they sold Watkins to Brentford in the summer of 2017. With a 15 percent sell-on clause, when he moved to Villa in the summer of 2020 for £28m, that entitled City to pick up a further £3.3m. Various add-ons have the potential to bring in extra income. For example, the Grecians secured an extra £75,000 after the Aston Villa man made his England debut off the bench in the 5-0 win over San Marino. This stream of income is now dwindling. Exeter City have used the income wisely on upgrading their stadium and improving their training ground in the last five years. Things are not quite so wonderful at the present time as some believe. Their much heralded academy structure is not producing the winning sides with quality players it once did. How are their Under 18 Academy side doing this season? By their usual standards, they are most disappointing. The nature of the Exeter City ownership structure means it is essential for them to make transfer profits consistently. The Ollie Watkins stream has been bringing in £1million per year, on average for six years. Brilliant business. Well done to them over the last decade. Without some big transfer sales it is highly likely that the next decade may not indicate that they are the ideal club for us to replicate. They are at their absolute peak I would say. Incredible how well they have done and are doing for the size of the club. That’s because they’ve made good decisions that benefit the long term. Rovers has been/is full of people that are self serving. Shame. Could you explain the 'self-serving' comment? I understand it in the political sense where politicians are in it for self-gain. How does self-serving work in a financial loss making business? Genuinely interested to know what you mean by this. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 29, 2024 20:59:07 GMT
How's talking about MT's replacement disguising anything, it seems pretty blatant what the OP is suggesting to me. We need a sarcasm emoji - I was clearly being sarcastic but am fed up with all the anti-MT threads! Click on my profile and look at my previous posts. This isn't a sack Taylor post. I rate Schumacher, so I would take him over Taylor, he won this league the year before last and got over 100 points. We need stability, we can't keep saying he's one or two games from the sack. If the rumors are true that he's close to the sack, if a manager like Schumacher is available, we should go for him now. Otherwise if we sack him in a months time, it might be too late. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 29, 2024 21:05:52 GMT
We need a sarcasm emoji - I was clearly being sarcastic but am fed up with all the anti-MT threads! Click on my profile and look at my previous posts. This isn't a sack Taylor post. I rate Schumacher, so I would take him over Taylor, he won this league the year before last and got over 100 points. We need stability, we can't keep saying he's one or two games from the sack. If the rumors are true that he's close to the sack, if a manager like Schumacher is available, we should go for him now. Otherwise if we sack him in a months time, it might be too late. I've not seen one suggestion the owners are considering sacking MT, they keep their cards so close to their chests nobody really knows what's going on. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 29, 2024 21:09:33 GMT
Click on my profile and look at my previous posts. This isn't a sack Taylor post. I rate Schumacher, so I would take him over Taylor, he won this league the year before last and got over 100 points. We need stability, we can't keep saying he's one or two games from the sack. If the rumors are true that he's close to the sack, if a manager like Schumacher is available, we should go for him now. Otherwise if we sack him in a months time, it might be too late. I've not seen one suggestion the owners are considering sacking MT, they keep their cards so close to their chests nobody really knows what's going on. I thought Taylor more or less said it himself and a lot of fans said that they heard he was going to be sacked if we didn't win the Charlton game. |
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Post by trickortreat on Oct 29, 2024 21:14:05 GMT
Click on my profile and look at my previous posts. This isn't a sack Taylor post. I rate Schumacher, so I would take him over Taylor, he won this league the year before last and got over 100 points. We need stability, we can't keep saying he's one or two games from the sack. If the rumors are true that he's close to the sack, if a manager like Schumacher is available, we should go for him now. Otherwise if we sack him in a months time, it might be too late. I've not seen one suggestion the owners are considering sacking MT, they keep their cards so close to their chests nobody really knows what's going on. Good. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 29, 2024 21:29:21 GMT
I've not seen one suggestion the owners are considering sacking MT, they keep their cards so close to their chests nobody really knows what's going on. I thought Taylor more or less said it himself and a lot of fans said that they heard he was going to be sacked if we didn't win the Charlton game. MT said the obvious if he didn't start winning games his position was in danger, given fans don't have a clue what's going on with the Mem redevelopment then I doubt the owners have told them what they intend doing about the manager. |
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Post by trickortreat on Oct 29, 2024 23:02:59 GMT
I'd be tempted to go for Darren Moore if we do decide we need a new manager.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 30, 2024 7:56:19 GMT
So its ok to discuss the demise of our manager and sack him but not ok to discuss other people needing to be sacked ? asking for a friend At least this is Rovers, even football, related not something totally off topic? morally its the same thing regardless of profession or topic |
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Post by gashead1974 on Oct 30, 2024 9:22:51 GMT
Schumacher carried on the fantastic work mostly completed by Ryan Lowe at Argyle with great success. From memory Lowe done well at Bury pre Argyle too. Living on the outskirts of Plymouth and following their progress/success on the local news I'd happily have either here over Taylor and opportunity knocks as both are out of work.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 30, 2024 9:32:59 GMT
I'd be tempted to go for Darren Moore if we do decide we need a new manager. I'd be disappointed with him if we quit PV have they stood by him following their relegation. Although why would he leave PV for us anyway, they seem a well run club with a good owner! |
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Post by trickortreat on Oct 30, 2024 9:40:01 GMT
I'd be tempted to go for Darren Moore if we do decide we need a new manager. I'd be disappointed with him if we quit PV have they stood by him following their relegation. Although why would he leave PV for us anyway, they seem a well run club with a good owner! He's done well at every club he's been at except Huddersfield, and they've hardly progressed since! Also, Loyalty in football counts for nothing. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 30, 2024 9:43:24 GMT
I'd be disappointed with him if we quit PV have they stood by him following their relegation. Although why would he leave PV for us anyway, they seem a well run club with a good owner! He's done well at every club he's been at except Huddersfield, and they've hardly progressed since! Also, Loyalty in football counts for nothing. Weren't PV relegated under DM? Although can you really see our owners paying compo anyway? |
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Post by trickortreat on Oct 30, 2024 9:47:34 GMT
He's done well at every club he's been at except Huddersfield, and they've hardly progressed since! Also, Loyalty in football counts for nothing. Weren't PV relegated under DM? Although can you really see our owners paying compo anyway? They were. However he was appointed late on and they were in the relegation zone when he took over. I would rather judge him on this season where he's been able to put more of his own squad together etc. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 30, 2024 10:22:28 GMT
Schumacher carried on the fantastic work mostly completed by Ryan Lowe at Argyle with great success. From memory Lowe done well at Bury pre Argyle too. Living on the outskirts of Plymouth and following their progress/success on the local news I'd happily have either here over Taylor and opportunity knocks as both are out of work. Plymouth fans say Schumacher was taking the training and doing most of the coaching, even when Lowe was there. I'm not sure how true that is though. Lowe tried to take him with him, when he went to Preston. But he decided to stay with Plymouth. They would both be good options. Lowe tried to |
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Oct 30, 2024 13:16:32 GMT
Schumacher carried on the fantastic work mostly completed by Ryan Lowe at Argyle with great success. From memory Lowe done well at Bury pre Argyle too. Living on the outskirts of Plymouth and following their progress/success on the local news I'd happily have either here over Taylor and opportunity knocks as both are out of work. Plymouth fans say Schumacher was taking the training and doing most of the coaching, even when Lowe was there. I'm not sure how true that is though. Lowe tried to take him with him, when he went to Preston. But he decided to stay with Plymouth. They would both be good options. Lowe tried to On the face of it realy unlucky to get sacked at Stoke , Schumacher. Won 13 , drawn 6 , lost 13 Win percentage just over 40 , and a division higher.
Must be something behind the scenes , in the media he was saying he was awaiting a explanation . But yeah , seems a bit of a no brainer decision to go for him , for me.
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Post by eric on Oct 30, 2024 16:22:31 GMT
He's done well at every club he's been at except Huddersfield, and they've hardly progressed since! Also, Loyalty in football counts for nothing. Weren't PV relegated under DM? Although can you really see our owners paying compo anyway? Compo died after the final series of Last of the Summer Wine so paying him anything would be wasteful |
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Oct 30, 2024 18:37:40 GMT
Plymouth fans say Schumacher was taking the training and doing most of the coaching, even when Lowe was there. I'm not sure how true that is though. Lowe tried to take him with him, when he went to Preston. But he decided to stay with Plymouth. They would both be good options. Lowe tried to On the face of it realy unlucky to get sacked at Stoke , Schumacher. Won 13 , drawn 6 , lost 13 Win percentage just over 40 , and a division higher.
Must be something behind the scenes , in the media he was saying he was awaiting a explanation . But yeah , seems a bit of a no brainer decision to go for him , for me.
A division higher? He managed Argyle in the Championship. |
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Oct 30, 2024 18:44:34 GMT
On the face of it realy unlucky to get sacked at Stoke , Schumacher. Won 13 , drawn 6 , lost 13 Win percentage just over 40 , and a division higher.
Must be something behind the scenes , in the media he was saying he was awaiting a explanation . But yeah , seems a bit of a no brainer decision to go for him , for me.
A division higher? He managed Argyle in the Championship. Those stats were for Stoke , his win percentage was over 40 in 32 games in the championship.
His win % for all clubs is 50 , very impressive.
In higher division I was indicating higher than our division , no idea what his win percentage was with Argyle in the champ first few months of 2023 24 season
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