|
|
Post by baggins on Nov 2, 2024 14:12:38 GMT
If rovers lose today to you think Taylor would get the sack ? No. Can't afford it. Can't find a replacement. |
|
|
|
If
Nov 2, 2024 14:13:03 GMT
Post by gashead4ever on Nov 2, 2024 14:13:03 GMT
owners seem to love rubbish football and frustrated fans so theres no chance
|
|
|
|
Post by baggins on Nov 2, 2024 14:15:11 GMT
owners seem to love rubbish football and frustrated fans so theres no chance That's just not true. |
|
|
|
If
Nov 2, 2024 14:17:54 GMT
Post by huntyhunt on Nov 2, 2024 14:17:54 GMT
Over the years we have lost to these sort of teams before ?
|
|
|
|
If
Nov 2, 2024 14:21:28 GMT
via mobile
Gaswood likes this
Post by miltongas on Nov 2, 2024 14:21:28 GMT
Fair enough. Why do you think the fanbase never seem to be happy? Should that be the focus of the owners to generate more money/income/favour? Are we below where the fanbase thinks we should be? Do we entertain, are we an enjoyable proposition? It's all well and good internally scrapping on here, but if the club got a grip of itself, we might see some unity. It's not exactly difficult. But yeah, I do agree with your points BTW 👍 It’s hard to say - I think society in general now wants more instant gratification and the younger generations have more of ‘we expect’ this as they’ve grown up generally in times where everything has come to them easily’ figuratively speaking rather than having had to work hard and graft to earn it or the right….. massive generalisation I know …. I also think football has changed so much with the massive influx of money into the premier league and foreign talent that that has massively affected expectations… lastly the older amongst us remember the connectivity and underdog siege mentality approach of the Twerton days and also the ‘glory’ days of the mid 70’s so harp back to that without considering that football is a very different beast these days (again big generalisations)… The gas have always been a team that has fluctuated between the 3rd and 4th tier with the odd float with the 2nd tier so I think generally speaking we are where we’d expect to be. Do I want more and aspire for more? Definitely… but to get there we need to have the finance, the stadium and infrastructure in place and we don’t have that and won’t have that until we get lucky with an extremely rich benefactor and planning permission and land availability and support changes… The Mem is a money pit and because of its age it’s costly and difficult to do anything to significantly improve it other than using the temporary approach that was used with the south stand etc - I’m thinking electrics, sewage, water pipes etc which are all Victorian era underground…. Personally the entertainment hasn’t been as bad as being made out imo but it’s all down to opinions….. we’ve had some poor games but others have been better and in most we’ve had passages of play where we’ve looked good etc… 👍 You make some good points blustick, but historically Rovers were a 2nd and 3rd tier team, only relegated to the bottom tier in 2001 for the first time. For many years we held a record with a couple of other teams of never having been in the top or bottom league. However this century I definitely agree we’ve been a bottom two divisions club and seem to have settled into that status |
|
|
|
Post by trickortreat on Nov 2, 2024 14:22:48 GMT
If rovers lose today to you think Taylor would get the sack ? Don't you think he is under enough pressure without silly questions like this? |
|
|
|
Post by Somersetgas on Nov 2, 2024 14:24:13 GMT
If rovers lose today to you think Taylor would get the sack ? Don't you think he is under enough pressure without silly questions like this? Sure he’s on here reading the forum in the changing room. |
|
|
|
If
Nov 2, 2024 14:24:23 GMT
via mobile
Post by trickortreat on Nov 2, 2024 14:24:23 GMT
It’s hard to say - I think society in general now wants more instant gratification and the younger generations have more of ‘we expect’ this as they’ve grown up generally in times where everything has come to them easily’ figuratively speaking rather than having had to work hard and graft to earn it or the right….. massive generalisation I know …. I also think football has changed so much with the massive influx of money into the premier league and foreign talent that that has massively affected expectations… lastly the older amongst us remember the connectivity and underdog siege mentality approach of the Twerton days and also the ‘glory’ days of the mid 70’s so harp back to that without considering that football is a very different beast these days (again big generalisations)… The gas have always been a team that has fluctuated between the 3rd and 4th tier with the odd float with the 2nd tier so I think generally speaking we are where we’d expect to be. Do I want more and aspire for more? Definitely… but to get there we need to have the finance, the stadium and infrastructure in place and we don’t have that and won’t have that until we get lucky with an extremely rich benefactor and planning permission and land availability and support changes… The Mem is a money pit and because of its age it’s costly and difficult to do anything to significantly improve it other than using the temporary approach that was used with the south stand etc - I’m thinking electrics, sewage, water pipes etc which are all Victorian era underground…. Personally the entertainment hasn’t been as bad as being made out imo but it’s all down to opinions….. we’ve had some poor games but others have been better and in most we’ve had passages of play where we’ve looked good etc… 👍 You make some good points blustick, but historically Rovers were a 2nd and 3rd tier team, only relegated to the bottom tier in 2001 for the first time. For many years we held a record with a couple of other teams of never having been in the top or bottom league. However this century I definitely agree we’ve been a bottom two divisions club and seem to have settled into that status 23 years is a long time. We have a player on the bench today that was born 6 years agter that, let that sink in. I bet that makes you feel old ! It definitely does me! |
|
|
|
Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 2, 2024 14:29:16 GMT
Don't you think he is under enough pressure without silly questions like this? Sure he’s on here reading the forum in the changing room. Obviously he isn't, but local media will be and therefore he will be asked questions by them so will be well aware of what some fans are saying. I also agree that almost every thread descends into a Taylor out thread and it's tiresome. He's not doing as well as he'd like but we have to be patient and give the squad time to develop together. |
|
|
|
Post by trickortreat on Nov 2, 2024 14:36:55 GMT
Don't you think he is under enough pressure without silly questions like this? Sure he’s on here reading the forum in the changing room. It's the ripple effect things like this can have on other fans that do read it. Just not helpful in anyway. We're supposed to be supporters. |
|
|
|
Post by Somersetgas on Nov 2, 2024 14:42:19 GMT
Sure he’s on here reading the forum in the changing room. Obviously he isn't, but local media will be and therefore he will be asked questions by them so will be well aware of what some fans are saying. I also agree that almost every thread descends into a Taylor out thread and it's tiresome. He's not doing as well as he'd like but we have to be patient and give the squad time to develop together. The poor results and style of play are reasons for pressure, in my opinion he needs to be under pressure, It varies on how you are performing. Management is about pressure and how you deal with it no matter your Management role. On the Local press do they really ask difficult questions? Radio Bristol presenters don’t seem to, Dan Hargreaves seems to post word for word what you listen to after the game on the radio. After 35 years my patience is now wafer thin, I hold little hope for the season sadly. |
|
|
|
If
Nov 3, 2024 0:19:14 GMT
via mobile
wsmjohn likes this
Post by wider on Nov 3, 2024 0:19:14 GMT
Bluestickgas1 makes good sense in my book as do many others.
I remember chanting ‘Send Bert Tann to Vietnam’ on one occasion and an older fan telling us we were out of order and as supporters we should support or leave quietly. Tote End and we shut up.
Very different to today’s “Entitlement” that is so rife in ‘society’.
I actually felt guilty even though that was around my tenth year of unquestioned support. I had a think whether unquestioned was the right way to support Rovers (not Gas then) and decided it wasn’t when not at the ground but at the ground it was - always do your most to help your team over the line.
|
|
|
|
Post by gashead79 on Nov 3, 2024 7:59:25 GMT
Bluestickgas1 makes good sense in my book as do many others. I remember chanting ‘Send Bert Tann to Vietnam’ on one occasion and an older fan telling us we were out of order and as supporters we should support or leave quietly. Tote End and we shut up. Very different to today’s “Entitlement” that is so rife in ‘society’. I actually felt guilty even though that was around my tenth year of unquestioned support. I had a think whether unquestioned was the right way to support Rovers (not Gas then) and decided it wasn’t when not at the ground but at the ground it was - always do your most to help your team over the line. Football supporters are supposed to support and want the team to do well. It goes without saying really. In our case, and I've mentioned it recently, how much difference do we think our support makes to the performance of the players? Those who have been to some European clubs or the big Scottish clubs eill know that there's a connection between fans and the players which can affect the energy and application on the pitch. There are a few English clubs too. However I don't think we have this at all. From top to bottom, our club is completely disconnected to the fanbase so it wont matter in any measurable form what the supporters do. IF, there was a chance that our fans could affect the results, then i would expect the sports scientists and coaches demand interaction/feedback/dialogue between fan groups and players. Open training, meet ups, understanding sessions, etc, but they don't and won't because our input other than financially is in the decimals of a %. Sorry, but that's how I see our situation. |
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Nov 3, 2024 8:45:08 GMT
Our home form at present is the reverse of our away from so perhaps we are helping the players in some way? 🤷
|
|
|
|
If
Nov 3, 2024 23:46:25 GMT
via mobile
Post by wider on Nov 3, 2024 23:46:25 GMT
Our home form at present is the reverse of our away from so perhaps we are helping the players in some way? 🤷 I think we probably still are helping but not as much as possible. |
|
|
|
If
Nov 4, 2024 8:19:39 GMT
via mobile
Post by nickchippenhamgas on Nov 4, 2024 8:19:39 GMT
a picture paints a thousand words then why can’t I paint you?……
|
|
|
|
If
Nov 4, 2024 8:46:40 GMT
Post by chewbacca on Nov 4, 2024 8:46:40 GMT
a picture paints a thousand words then why can’t I paint you?…… If you can't paint that's on you, don't blame the model. Yeesh! |
|
|
|
If
Nov 4, 2024 9:22:13 GMT
via mobile
Post by nickchippenhamgas on Nov 4, 2024 9:22:13 GMT
a picture paints a thousand words then why can’t I paint you?…… If you can't paint that's on you, don't blame the model. Yeesh! The words will never show The you I’ve come to know…. 😀 |
|
|
|
If
Nov 4, 2024 18:41:32 GMT
via mobile
Post by gastric on Nov 4, 2024 18:41:32 GMT
Are we still paying Joe's wage until January?
IF so I can't see him being given the push until February at the earliest.
Another consolidation year, followed by another manager say "it's not my team" followed by another consolidation year.
It has to stop, any manager (if that is what happens) should come in with the attitude of "I knew, and am prepared to take on my team whether I chose them or not"
You take the job those players are yours, simple as that
|
|
|
|
Post by SleepyGas on Nov 4, 2024 20:20:40 GMT
Our home form at present is the reverse of our away from so perhaps we are helping the players in some way? 🤷 I'm sure that the "we want Taylor out" chants at 1-1 on Saturday were what spurred our players on to get the eventual win....  |
|
