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Post by gaslad83 on Nov 11, 2024 22:15:26 GMT
Youv made my point for me topper. They have no interest in the long term growth of this football club. They couldn't give a sh*t that the younger generation arnt attending and our fan base will dwindle year on year. That's the reason I'm worried where we are heading under this mob and would welcome a change. Problem is what is the change, reverting back to Wael talking nonsense about imaginary stadiums whilst praising an idiot like JB, or 3 ex Premiership players who won't have a clue how a club like Rovers operates? The original site that leaked it online claimed it was bergkamp, kuyt, larrson, cocu and Ronald koeman
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Post by gaslad83 on Nov 11, 2024 22:17:37 GMT
Wael isn’t my contact sadly I’m not lucky enough You can still answer my first question? As far as I’m aware it’s not out as Joey is on a NDA until then and so can’t say a lot I’m told legally they can’t approach the owners without right permission. But not sure how it works fully
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Post by returnofthedust on Nov 11, 2024 22:23:22 GMT
You can still answer my first question? As far as I’m aware it’s not out as Joey is on a NDA until then and so can’t say a lot I’m told legally they can’t approach the owners without right permission. But not sure how it works fully Barton will tell his experience and his thoughts. This is a bloke who felt his brother had a “scrap” when he actually murdered someone. Excuse me if I don’t believe a word that comes out of that cretins mouth.
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Post by vaughan on Nov 11, 2024 22:35:51 GMT
Well, Dr F's bit of Sunday morning fun, god bless him, has attracted a lot of commentary.
The allegations about Abdullatif are probably some of the most serious ever levelled about the behaviour and professional conduct of a Rovers official.
Will he reply? If there is no truth in this, I would want to put the record straight...or take other action.
One fact: whatever you think about Matt Taylor and the performances since he took charge, he is a good guy. He does not deserve to be treated like this.
The Kuwait crew don't seem to have a clue about running a football club that upholds core values. Yes, I know football stinks, but this undermining of the manager is still deplorable by any measure of decency.
So my recommendation: either put the record straight and back the manager or do the decent thing and sell the club as you are never likely to be carried down Gloucester Road on current form.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Nov 11, 2024 23:01:22 GMT
I’ve seen lots of comments both on here and other social media about ‘the truth coming out very soon’ etc, not a dig at any posters, but why so cryptic with this? If it’s common knowledge in certain circles then spill the beans.
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Post by returnofthedust on Nov 11, 2024 23:02:36 GMT
I’ve seen lots of comments both on here and other social media about ‘the truth coming out very soon’ etc, not a dig at any posters, but why so cryptic with this? If it’s common knowledge in certain circles then spill the beans. You’ll have to wait until October. I’m afraid we can’t tell you before then.
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Post by roadman on Nov 11, 2024 23:07:07 GMT
Well one thing is for sure now, the old Roadman being Dust as well has been put to bed tonight!
You’ve been a little let’s say aggressive John, firing shots all over the place.
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Post by returnofthedust on Nov 11, 2024 23:13:17 GMT
Well one thing is for sure now, the old Roadman being Dust as well has been put to bed tonight! You’ve been a little let’s say aggressive John, firing shots all over the place. As you know, I have told you from day one that I wasn’t sure on the new owners and that their lack of any digital footprint scared me and made me sceptical. What we have now though is people trying to make out that the Wael era was all sunshine and roses and I simply will not accept this rewrite of history. People are talking about bullying the players or them being treated disgracefully when they aren’t wanted. Ask Lines, Sinclair, Belshaw, Ollie Clarke and a few more about their exit from the club. Maybe ask Keith Brookman how he was let go or the Screen Soccer brigade? We’ve now got people talking about contractors not being paid. Who can forget fence gate and various other claims of unpaid invoices in the past. I’ve no doubt this lot aren’t great but some on now, let’s not have blatant blindness on here?
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Post by aghast on Nov 11, 2024 23:21:23 GMT
Dusty and Roady meet up for a cuppa to discuss today's astonishing revelations.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 11, 2024 23:48:03 GMT
Come on mate, I’m all for being proactive but when the players go to the manager and say, my agency is telling me we have just interviewed ……….. …………. Are you leaving gaffer? It’s hardly professional?! And the agency then apparently rang Taylor to tell him as well because they were so watered off how we tried to cut them out! It doesn't really say a lot about the job agency either? If we were top 6, as we were under GC, and the owners were sounding out agents about managers I'd be concerned but given where we were in the table it's hardly surprising they were making enquiries. I was going to say the same. These kinda talks happen quite often. When things aren't going right on the pitch, clubs speak to other managers, to see if someone they believe can do better is available. The agent, isn't supposed to leak that information though! If true and I was the players, I would be thinking can I trust an agent that can't keep quiet, when they are supposed to. What kind of agent, goes around repeating information like that.
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Post by singupgas on Nov 12, 2024 0:00:06 GMT
As the thread seems to be becoming an anti ALS one, I was thought I'd list the positives since they took over: 1) Decided JB and his mob needed moving on. 2) Appointed a decent person to replace JB, whether he goes on to be a decent manager only time will tell. 3) Fully backed MT across two transfer windows, signing some exciting young players. 4) Sorted out the planning saga for the new stands and got them both completed. 5) Got pp for the large TV without any issues (why it's not been installed is anybody's guess) 6) Held a Q&A with fans, something Wael showed no interest in doing. 7) Announced the FM was not going to happen but a Mem redevelopment was being considered, held a session with the local residents. That's a weak list of positives. The managerial situation is opinion. At the time of sacking JB as football manager doing no worse than MT. Planning permission for what stands ? Surely our bar is higher than a new screen being installed? Also the FM decision was embarrassing and wasn't the ALS involved consultations according to Wael.
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Post by gasmania on Nov 12, 2024 0:05:07 GMT
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Post by Gastafari on Nov 12, 2024 0:16:20 GMT
Your points 1) Joey told them to stick it as wanted him to allow Abdul to be involved 2) didn’t want Matt Taylor, they went for Gary monks. Taylor was brought in with other input 3) most of players they have bought have used money from Collins and Evans transfer or other investors money as they haven’t got any!! Collins was promised a contract and they went back on it and made him leave. Just ask him next time we play bolton, Evans didn’t wanna stay and play under them 4) they didn’t sort south stand- wael did!! A grant from the fa and then rest was paid by him just ask any of the contracters who hate them 5) f**ked up the tv by not checking size and weight- admitted at the agm last Thursday 6) wael did few agm meetings and always happy too do more They are trying to push wael out the club. Speak to agents and they will tell u they are awful to deal with, ask the head scout of Yeovil how poor it was to deal with them over the kofi deal. Interviewing managers behind Taylor’s back- ask agents again. If u get the right one!! They want hunt out, didn’t want Sinclair and Martin to stay! Don’t want to sign anyone of experience as no sell on profit Won’t speak to the consortium as claim haven’t got experience etc So much else Players pay for their own coffee, tea etc as they won’t pay for it. The list goes on!! Don’t believe me speak to football agents and ask them. It’s easy enough, speak to ex employee who will tell u(well the ones not on an NDA) It’s all gonna come out in Jan/feb!!! If they are trying to push Wael out, then it's just another example of Wael having a terrible judge of character it seems. As much as I respect Wael, he brought them to the club, just like he did Hamer, Gorringe, Garner, Tisdale, Barton etc.
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Post by singupgas on Nov 12, 2024 0:16:41 GMT
Your points 1) Joey told them to stick it as wanted him to allow Abdul to be involved 2) didn’t want Matt Taylor, they went for Gary monks. Taylor was brought in with other input 3) most of players they have bought have used money from Collins and Evans transfer or other investors money as they haven’t got any!! Collins was promised a contract and they went back on it and made him leave. Just ask him next time we play bolton, Evans didn’t wanna stay and play under them 4) they didn’t sort south stand- wael did!! A grant from the fa and then rest was paid by him just ask any of the contracters who hate them 5) f**ked up the tv by not checking size and weight- admitted at the agm last Thursday 6) wael did few agm meetings and always happy too do more They are trying to push wael out the club. Speak to agents and they will tell u they are awful to deal with, ask the head scout of Yeovil how poor it was to deal with them over the kofi deal. Interviewing managers behind Taylor’s back- ask agents again. If u get the right one!! They want hunt out, didn’t want Sinclair and Martin to stay! Don’t want to sign anyone of experience as no sell on profit Won’t speak to the consortium as claim haven’t got experience etc So much else Players pay for their own coffee, tea etc as they won’t pay for it. The list goes on!! Don’t believe me speak to football agents and ask them. It’s easy enough, speak to ex employee who will tell u(well the ones not on an NDA) It’s all gonna come out in Jan/feb!!! Interesting
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 12, 2024 0:35:15 GMT
Well that escalated.
If anyone can summarise the truth for me I'd be grateful. Feel free to PM. 🫣
Anyway, Ruud van Nistelrooy is available now.
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Post by yattongas on Nov 12, 2024 6:49:16 GMT
Always a bit wary of info that’s put on here by a completely new poster. Either they’ve popped out of nowhere ( highly unlikely )or an existing / former poster under a different name ? No doubt some of it will be true but also others parts exaggerated or twisted a little to fit their agenda. Weird bit is why do we have to wait until Jan ? That just doesn’t make sense to me 🤔
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Post by Slide away on Nov 12, 2024 7:39:41 GMT
Wow, someone has gone nuclear! But that had to come out as the environment which Taylor is working in is appalling.
Majority of thar had been told to a few through solid sources but under a warning that it may end up with legal papers on door steps...
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Post by gasify on Nov 12, 2024 7:47:25 GMT
Always a bit wary of info that’s put on here by a completely new poster. Either they’ve popped out of nowhere ( highly unlikely )or an existing / former poster under a different name ? No doubt some of it will be true but also others parts exaggerated or twisted a little to fit their agenda. Weird bit is why do we have to wait until Jan ? That just doesn’t make sense to me 🤔 That has always been the date that payments to one JB is rumoured to stop. You don't really have an NDA that runs out but you might not pay that ex employee if they are speaking out when they shouldn't. JB will say anything to appear relevant, we've already seen an example of that on his blog. Now, you have to bear in mind that I have always been in the JB hater camp. However, what I do know is that Barton likes a scrap. He wouldn't have left the club so quietly if he left due to the owners meddling in the day to day football side of things. For me, he was probably expensive and the players were expensive and the owners saw an opportunity to be able to get rid quickly based on the weeble comment. It would have been gross misconduct if they had chosen to sack him without payment. I'm still holding onto the idea that things are going on behind the scenes, whether that is a new manager (I've mentioned before that maybe MT is the manager equivalent to a transitional shag) that will unite the fan base. Or putting together the right paperwork so that when we put in planning permission for the stadium redevelopment it will be more likely to be approved first time (as opposed to the stand being rejected a couple of times). As for the team, yes I am one that is thinking the team are now starting to play together and play the way thatvthe manager wants that we will pick up enough points to stay up this season. I didn't see much difference between us and Lincoln on Saturday.
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Post by returnofthedust on Nov 12, 2024 7:49:14 GMT
Always a bit wary of info that’s put on here by a completely new poster. Either they’ve popped out of nowhere ( highly unlikely )or an existing / former poster under a different name ? No doubt some of it will be true but also others parts exaggerated or twisted a little to fit their agenda. Weird bit is why do we have to wait until Jan ? That just doesn’t make sense to me 🤔 The insinuation is that Barton will reveal all when his NDA is up. Strange though, I’d have thought if he told them to shove it then that’s a resignation and therefore there’s no pay off or NDA.
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Post by BrightonGas on Nov 12, 2024 9:49:51 GMT
Always a bit wary of info that’s put on here by a completely new poster. Either they’ve popped out of nowhere ( highly unlikely )or an existing / former poster under a different name ? No doubt some of it will be true but also others parts exaggerated or twisted a little to fit their agenda. Weird bit is why do we have to wait until Jan ? That just doesn’t make sense to me 🤔 Unless it's a case of "Welcome to the forum Joey!"
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