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Post by singupgas on Nov 23, 2024 23:49:26 GMT
You may be right about the floaters. But some will always support their nearest team. Some may also prefer the retro experience of standing on a terrace, with the ability to move position at any given time. I should imagine price point also comes into it , we must be cheaper than Championship/ Prem footy. Don’t forget if you have a hankering for a burnt sausage roll…. The Mem is ground zero for all things crispy. The catchment area must be around 3m people within an hour or so from the Mem, plenty to tap into. We have to get ourselves sorted out though and give people a reason to attend in the first place. Just listening to the weather outside, can you imagine how miserable it would be to stand on the terrace if there was a game on in weather like this. We desperately need the ground redeveloped. |
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Post by wsmjohn on Nov 24, 2024 1:53:27 GMT
We need the pasties back sh** food at present at the Mem
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Post by gasheadontour on Nov 24, 2024 2:18:22 GMT
Obviously both teams have an impact on each other. Any fans in the middle, will support the team in the higher league, that is playing against better teams. If they go up, they will sell out every game and attract new fans. Our core supporters won't leave, but it will have an impact over time. You may be right about the floaters. But some will always support their nearest team. Some may also prefer the retro experience of standing on a terrace, with the ability to move position at any given time When the Away terrace isn't being used by Away fans, how about giving Rovers fans the away terrace so home fans can go from one side of the East terrace to the other depending upon which end Rovers are attacking? |
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 24, 2024 8:29:29 GMT
You may be right about the floaters. But some will always support their nearest team. Some may also prefer the retro experience of standing on a terrace, with the ability to move position at any given time When the Away terrace isn't being used by Away fans, how about giving Rovers fans the away terrace so home fans can go from one side of the East terrace to the other depending upon which end Rovers are attacking? We've done that before, but there are plenty of empty seats in the new stand every game and gaps in both the east and west terraces |
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Post by gashead79 on Nov 24, 2024 8:31:03 GMT
You may be right about the floaters. But some will always support their nearest team. Some may also prefer the retro experience of standing on a terrace, with the ability to move position at any given time. I should imagine price point also comes into it , we must be cheaper than Championship/ Prem footy. Don’t forget if you have a hankering for a burnt sausage roll…. The Mem is ground zero for all things crispy. The catchment area must be around 3m people within an hour or so from the Mem, plenty to tap into. We have to get ourselves sorted out though and give people a reason to attend in the first place. 😄 wtf? Run this same logic for every team and consider how many people from 'catchment', support that particular club. We are in lg1 for a start, there's thousands of people who live in BS7 who could walk to our club in 10 minutes who aren't interested, so although I get what you're suggesting, but let's keep it real! Out of interest, barring getting to the Prem and finishing top 4, what reasons are a % of these 3m people from within an hour(spurious) going to require to visit the Mem? |
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 24, 2024 8:37:45 GMT
We need the pasties back sh** food at present at the Mem Nothing wrong with the piglets sausage rolls! |
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Post by gasheadmichal on Nov 24, 2024 9:01:00 GMT
The catchment area must be around 3m people within an hour or so from the Mem, plenty to tap into. We have to get ourselves sorted out though and give people a reason to attend in the first place. 😄 wtf? Run this same logic for every team and consider how many people from 'catchment', support that particular club. We are in lg1 for a start, there's thousands of people who live in BS7 who could walk to our club in 10 minutes who aren't interested, so although I get what you're suggesting, but let's keep it real! Out of interest, barring getting to the Prem and finishing top 4, what reasons are a % of these 3m people from within an hour(spurious) going to require to visit the Mem? Reason that people might come to the mem are that they never came across the gas chat. Hehe UTG |
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 24, 2024 9:04:42 GMT
The catchment area must be around 3m people within an hour or so from the Mem, plenty to tap into. We have to get ourselves sorted out though and give people a reason to attend in the first place. 😄 wtf? Run this same logic for every team and consider how many people from 'catchment', support that particular club. We are in lg1 for a start, there's thousands of people who live in BS7 who could walk to our club in 10 minutes who aren't interested, so although I get what you're suggesting, but let's keep it real! Out of interest, barring getting to the Prem and finishing top 4, what reasons are a % of these 3m people from within an hour(spurious) going to require to visit the Mem? Just allying the fear that if City make the Prem then we'll struggle to attract fans, there is room for all, but we need to get our house in order. There is also the large transient student population to tap into. |
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Post by gasheadmichal on Nov 24, 2024 9:20:03 GMT
😄 wtf? Run this same logic for every team and consider how many people from 'catchment', support that particular club. We are in lg1 for a start, there's thousands of people who live in BS7 who could walk to our club in 10 minutes who aren't interested, so although I get what you're suggesting, but let's keep it real! Out of interest, barring getting to the Prem and finishing top 4, what reasons are a % of these 3m people from within an hour(spurious) going to require to visit the Mem? Just allying the fear that if City make the Prem then we'll struggle to attract fans, there is room for all, but we need to get our house in order. There is also the large transient student population to tap into. Look after what you have, And don't worry about what you haven't. UTG |
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Post by eric on Nov 24, 2024 10:11:46 GMT
You may be right about the floaters. But some will always support their nearest team. Some may also prefer the retro experience of standing on a terrace, with the ability to move position at any given time When the Away terrace isn't being used by Away fans, how about giving Rovers fans the away terrace so home fans can go from one side of the East terrace to the other depending upon which end Rovers are attacking? Does that mean if we become this fast paced counter attacking team that hundreds of Gasheads will be sprinting up and down the east terrace? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 24, 2024 10:13:02 GMT
We are obsessed by them and we sign anti Bristol City songs when we are losing. We glorify in them struggling, then doing well would make our fans look at ourselves and demand more. We have fans thanking Wael for keeping us going through Covid, no other chairman of the 92 let a club go bust. We’d also lose a generation of fans, it’s bad enough seeing kids in City shirts. If they do bad, it’s as if we are fine being bad as well. Rovers were one of the last clubs in Leagues One and Two to furlough players and non-playing staff, the club had paid them all full wages until then. Once furloughed, the club topped up any shortfall so that staff were not out of pocket. Some clubs asked people to take a wage cut, or defer payment of a portion of their wages, which would be a bit impact for those on lower league salaries. I think that Wael does deserve a bit of credit there. Was it good business practice though to turn down COVID loans/grants and fund it from your own business funds, it sounds like more naivety to me as I know plenty of business men who took the loans and are still paying them back at a peppercorn interest rate, whilst we're now apparently paying an wonga type interest rate for the new stands. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 24, 2024 10:17:29 GMT
How much did we pay to buy the land and develop the Quarters? And who owns it and any future profits from a sale of the land for housing? I ask because I don't know. Taking on the debts of BRFC 1883 or whatever the legal entity is called is one thing. Buying and owning land is potentially another and the two may not be directly connected. My recollection is £700,000 to purchase the land itself, with approximately £1.5m+ on the pitches. Then there will be the building, gym, reservoir and landscaping, plus utilities. All in all, we are probably looking at c£3.5m maybe. Ownership wise, it was originally bought by a separate Jersey based company called Dwane Colony, I don't know if anything has changed since. Given the new owners are talking about selling part of the land to fund developments, then you have to assume The Quarters was part of the deal to buy the club. |
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Post by gashead79 on Nov 24, 2024 10:18:33 GMT
😄 wtf? Run this same logic for every team and consider how many people from 'catchment', support that particular club. We are in lg1 for a start, there's thousands of people who live in BS7 who could walk to our club in 10 minutes who aren't interested, so although I get what you're suggesting, but let's keep it real! Out of interest, barring getting to the Prem and finishing top 4, what reasons are a % of these 3m people from within an hour(spurious) going to require to visit the Mem? Just allying the fear that if City make the Prem then we'll struggle to attract fans, there is room for all, but we need to get our house in order. There is also the large transient student population to tap into. It's a very fair point. Thing is that city are light years ahead of us in every department and if they did reach the prem, they already have the engaged support to fill AG and do so in comfort. Students? Perhaps our marketing department have the metrics on target clients and our sales strategy to increase engagement depending on outreach? Facts are that city have an apprenticeship programme for AG, have an academy that is properly linked to further education, have a dedicated team to do all of this and funding. We run out of pasties by ten past 3. |
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Post by percy on Nov 25, 2024 10:07:44 GMT
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 25, 2024 10:25:32 GMT
Never been one to follow owners like a cult, I follow the team these days as opposed to the club - which wael defacto has helped dismantled by outsourcing and unleashing nefarious TG under his watch which has outstripped much of the kind staff that worked for years through thick and thin... under his watch the amount of unfair dismissal cases rose and it cost the club thousands settling out of court.
Wael was carried high down Glos Rd when the going went well, when the going got tough like the fruit market for instance, the tough got metaphorically going - he went quiet -but hey a London office appeared a priority (?) and other bizarre endeavours were overseen by him.
To counter, he came in at a crucial time when NH appeared to be merrily sending us into administration thus saving club from that form of humiliation.
I admire anyone putting money into the club to progress it, so respect there.
He also furloughed in full most of the staff during the challenging lockdown period.
I always found him affable chap, but could never truly 100% trust his motives as an adopted GasHead as he's rolling out slower than he rolled in.
Also, I'm a bit old fashioned.
I think club directors should be like children: they should be not seen and not heard unless need be.
But that's just me, I know many of you feel differently, so will say thank you for the good times and see ya...... I've done the hard yards and years and continue following Gas through thick and thin, has Wael?
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Post by socrates on Nov 25, 2024 11:23:03 GMT
Had high hopes for Wael, but it's all been a bit rubbish ever since he sacked Darrell Clarke for complaining about the facilities really, except for a few months under Coughlan and the brief period Elliot Anderson was at the club. If the Kuwaitis are as bad as some people seem to believe then he has also sold us down the river Jordan, in which case their legacy will also be his. UTG I’m not convinced they are as bad as some say. Yes they’re extremely quiet but they’re the first owners in my life time that have shelled out on transfers around the same as what we’ve brought in. There may be awful things going on behind the scenes but I don’t really take much notice of rumours , there’s nothing I could do about it anyway if those rumours are true. I can’t dislike a board for being quiet when they financially supported the playing side of things and have plans for behind the scenes also. |
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Post by pucklegas on Nov 25, 2024 11:49:17 GMT
Had high hopes for Wael, but it's all been a bit rubbish ever since he sacked Darrell Clarke for complaining about the facilities really, except for a few months under Coughlan and the brief period Elliot Anderson was at the club. If the Kuwaitis are as bad as some people seem to believe then he has also sold us down the river Jordan, in which case their legacy will also be his. UTG I’m not convinced they are as bad as some say. Yes they’re extremely quiet but they’re the first owners in my life time that have shelled out on transfers around the same as what we’ve brought in. There may be awful things going on behind the scenes but I don’t really take much notice of rumours , there’s nothing I could do about it anyway if those rumours are true. I can’t dislike a board for being quiet when they financially supported the playing side of things and have plans for behind the scenes also. Excellent post I think since Covid people have no patience and some lack the ability to communicate, it's easy to jump on the bandwagon and slate the board, none of us fans have the dollar to buy the club and run it our way. We demand information, but due to previous false dawn's I'm sure when it's ready we ll be updated. This will be a season of consolidation and then tweaking in the summer, I really thought Rotherham would smash this league how wrong am I! |
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Post by RD on Nov 25, 2024 12:46:02 GMT
Had high hopes for Wael, but it's all been a bit rubbish ever since he sacked Darrell Clarke for complaining about the facilities really, except for a few months under Coughlan and the brief period Elliot Anderson was at the club. If the Kuwaitis are as bad as some people seem to believe then he has also sold us down the river Jordan, in which case their legacy will also be his. UTG I’m not convinced they are as bad as some say. Yes they’re extremely quiet but they’re the first owners in my life time that have shelled out on transfers around the same as what we’ve brought in. There may be awful things going on behind the scenes but I don’t really take much notice of rumours , there’s nothing I could do about it anyway if those rumours are true. I can’t dislike a board for being quiet when they financially supported the playing side of things and have plans for behind the scenes also. Excellent post. I'm not going to deny that I've been very doom and gloom about them from pretty much day 1. If I'm honest, as a Rovers fan, I think you always just naturally assume the worst; i.e. no news is definitely bad news. BUT.... there is a possibility of course that they are just quietly going on about their business in the background. Do I believe that? Probably not if I'm honest... but there's every chance. For example - re. the Mem redevelopment - the optimist in me wants to believe they seen what happened with the shambolic Fruit Market announcement and have decided they literally will not say a thing until it's signed on the dotted line. Fingers crossed... |
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Post by chewbacca on Nov 25, 2024 16:09:09 GMT
I’m not convinced they are as bad as some say. Yes they’re extremely quiet but they’re the first owners in my life time that have shelled out on transfers around the same as what we’ve brought in. There may be awful things going on behind the scenes but I don’t really take much notice of rumours , there’s nothing I could do about it anyway if those rumours are true. I can’t dislike a board for being quiet when they financially supported the playing side of things and have plans for behind the scenes also. Excellent post. I'm not going to deny that I've been very doom and gloom about them from pretty much day 1. If I'm honest, as a Rovers fan, I think you always just naturally assume the worst; i.e. no news is definitely bad news. BUT.... there is a possibility of course that they are just quietly going on about their business in the background. Do I believe that? Probably not if I'm honest... but there's every chance. For example - re. the Mem redevelopment - the optimist in me wants to believe they seen what happened with the shambolic Fruit Market announcement and have decided they literally will not say a thing until it's signed on the dotted line. Fingers crossed... There's a nice middle ground between radio silence and dropping a video to announce you're having a chat with developers. |
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Post by Beer Baron on Nov 25, 2024 16:52:25 GMT
Had high hopes for Wael, but it's all been a bit rubbish ever since he sacked Darrell Clarke for complaining about the facilities really, except for a few months under Coughlan and the brief period Elliot Anderson was at the club. If the Kuwaitis are as bad as some people seem to believe then he has also sold us down the river Jordan, in which case their legacy will also be his. UTG I’m not convinced they are as bad as some say. Yes they’re extremely quiet but they’re the first owners in my life time that have shelled out on transfers around the same as what we’ve brought in. There may be awful things going on behind the scenes but I don’t really take much notice of rumours , there’s nothing I could do about it anyway if those rumours are true. I can’t dislike a board for being quiet when they financially supported the playing side of things and have plans for behind the scenes also. I'm hopeful as well, same goes the other way if they turn out to be good owners then Wael would also have to take credit for leaving us in a better position. Fingers crossed 🤞 UTG |
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