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Post by stevek192 on Feb 18, 2015 1:40:38 GMT
To not be part of BRISTOL SPORT. We are BRISTOL ROVERS FOOTBALL CLUB and forever more will be so. How sad to see our great rivals dead and part of the Bristol Sport Franchise. OK they are doing great this season but are Bristol City only in name not even the 82ers anymore but just a bit part of the BRISTOL SPORT FRANCHISE. Slowly (or quickly as it seems now when you see them on TV) they are losing their identity in their quest to regain former glories. Ok we are a non league team but whatever the future holds for us I pray that we retain our identity. We are Bristol Rovers 1883 and can stand proud. If we wave a scarf it is the scarf of our club,our tradition..ok we probably haven't been given it free but it retains our history..the good times ,the bad times and the in betweens . Lets be proud of this.
WE now have something in common with Wimbledon and that is that our deadly rivals are a franchise. The good times will come back for us in the future-football is like that but when it does will the derby be Bristol Rovers v Bristol City...very unlikely more like Bristol Rovers v Bristol Sport Football section.
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Post by mjhgas on Feb 18, 2015 6:30:25 GMT
Still the City for me, still play at Ashton Gate and still our rivals.
All you are seeing is some progressive (& slightly aggressive) modern day football marketing. Something that our board of directors don't know anything about!
We're still kicking around the 1980's - rag ass Rovers style!
City have the dosh, we don't - and we all know how modern day football operates!
We won't play them in a league game in the next ten years.
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Post by newmarketgas on Feb 18, 2015 7:28:10 GMT
When the Pantsman dies ? what will happen then ? All these 'bits' of Bristol Sport do not make any money, when he dies do they ?
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Post by newmarketgas on Feb 18, 2015 7:29:11 GMT
What is wrong with 'Money' ? 0)
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Post by newmarketgas on Feb 18, 2015 7:29:41 GMT
munny ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 8:03:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 9:10:28 GMT
Still the City for me, still play at Ashton Gate and still our rivals. All you are seeing is some progressive (& slightly aggressive) modern day football marketing. Something that our board of directors don't know anything about! We're still kicking around the 1980's - rag ass Rovers style! City have the dosh, we don't - and we all know how modern day football operates! We won't play them in a league game in the next ten years. Yes still very much the same club and if SL was to attempt to alter the identity he would without doubt have a battle on his hands, we can but hope this will happen, the Bristol Red Sox would be great. I can't see them as rivals though, local rivalry has only come from being in the same division for me, something unlikely to happen in the next decade as you say, and FGR are our current rivals this season. Still as the forum police have long said our board are all Gasheads, who else would buy Rovers, we have our own Santa's grotto, would you put your own money into the club (just like Geoff Dunford did), be careful what you wish for has been a well worn phrase, the list of desperate defence and misplaced loyalty goes on. I would imagine that every Rovers fan who does not revel in the ragbag tag would take City's position in the blink of an eye if it meant Rovers had a billionaire chairman but also owned the rugby club and a racing driver. Don't get the comparison with MK Dons at all, there is no comparison, totally different situation. Just to confirm MJHGAS that Rovers do have marketing knowledge, I asked Barry Bradshaw about it a couple of years ago and he confirmed there is one around the back of Ikea in Easville on a Saturday morning and also in the grounds of Southmead Hospital! The irony of this situation IMO is if the club did fall under the hands of professional owners who would spend time improving the clubs image that there would be a good chance that identity would progressively change, Santa's portaloo would probably be gone overnight. |
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Post by socrates on Feb 18, 2015 10:29:17 GMT
This subject always raises a lot of debate but the way I see it is this.
I've always been proud to be a Gashead regardless of what division we've been in and I've always felt a great rivalry with the other lot regardless of what division they're in or who is manager , owner or whatever.
We are the two professional clubs in Bristol and if you support one then your rivalry is with the other the way I see it.
Obviously when we're in the same division it adds a bit of spice and makes things interesting but it doesn't make me dislike them any more or love Rovers any more or less.
I've lived in Bristol all my life , grew up with sh}t heads and Gasheads and always had banter with it.
That hasn't gone away because we've dropped out the league and I'm glad of that.
As for it being an honour , I'm not so sure that's a word I'd use to describe it but m not ashamed to be supporting a non league club, it's nothing that I've done wrong, as a supporter I support my club through thick and thin and I'm proud of that.
UTG
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Post by Mark Ash on Feb 18, 2015 11:08:38 GMT
I thought that giving out free scarves to everyone for their West Ham game was very "corporate" myself. Something in me recoils from being given official ways to show support. Next step will be telling them what to sing on the electronic scoreboard and messages like "NEAR MISS!!!" flashing at them when someone has a shot.
Rovers desperately need money, but I wouldn't like to see us as just a part of some bigger organisation. I'm old school I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 11:12:00 GMT
This subject always raises a lot of debate but the way I see it is this. I've always been proud to be a Gashead regardless of what division we've been in and I've always felt a great rivalry with the other lot regardless of what division they're in or who is manager , owner or whatever. We are the two professional clubs in Bristol and if you support one then your rivalry is with the other the way I see it. Obviously when we're in the same division it adds a bit of spice and makes things interesting but it doesn't make me dislike them any more or love Rovers any more or less. I've lived in Bristol all my life , grew up with sh}t heads and Gasheads and always had banter with it. That hasn't gone away because we've dropped out the league and I'm glad of that. As for it being an honour , I'm not so sure that's a word I'd use to describe it but m not ashamed to be supporting a non league club, it's nothing that I've done wrong, as a supporter I support my club through thick and thin and I'm proud of that. UTG Great post Socrates, as you say plenty of us see things in different ways, I was at a wedding on saturday and a good pal who is a Judas so I mean (82er) had a face like a smacked backside after the beating by Sheff Utd, we had our five minutes of back and forth banter, however my take on real rivalry is those geographically closest who are attempting to beat you to promotion and deny you that place in the league above, FGR are the natural choice this year and living closer to them than the Mem these days it does irk to see how a club of normally under 1000 fans has a chairman (albeit not the most likeable with an eco agenda) who is always looking at ways to progress the club off the pitch. All said and done after May it looks as though Mr Higgs will be selling at the first opportunity, if he is to be believed this time round, so exiting times may be around the corner, who knows, after all this is Rovers, expect the unexpected! |
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Post by Mark Ash on Feb 18, 2015 11:13:02 GMT
Mods: not really a complaint, but is it necessary to transform the word "m0ney" into something else, or not allow us to say Bristol C1ty? I understand the idea of censoring some swear words, and "Pieces of eight" or "City82 Ltd" are amusing in their way, but maybe we should be allowed to make our own jokes?
Or is it just a virus on my tablet?
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Post by Severncider on Feb 18, 2015 11:24:37 GMT
To not be part of BRISTOL SPORT. We are BRISTOL ROVERS FOOTBALL CLUB and forever more will be so. How sad to see our great rivals dead and part of the Bristol Sport Franchise. OK they are doing great this season but are City82Ltd only in name not even the 82ers anymore but just a bit part of the BRISTOL SPORT FRANCHISE. Slowly (or quickly as it seems now when you see them on TV) they are losing their identity in their quest to regain former glories. Ok we are a non league team but whatever the future holds for us I pray that we retain our identity. We are Bristol Rovers 1883 and can stand proud. If we wave a scarf it is the scarf of our club,our tradition..ok we probably haven't been given it free but it retains our history..the good times ,the bad times and the in betweens . Lets be proud of this. WE now have something in common with Wimbledon and that is that our deadly rivals are a franchise. The good times will come back for us in the future-football is like that but when it does will the derby be Bristol Rovers v City82Ltd...very unlikely more like Bristol Rovers v Bristol Sport Football section. Do you really think they give a rats ass about us.
They must be crying into their drinks seeing how far apart we are.
PS - from a Gashead of 60+ years and a shareholder.
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Post by mehewmagic on Feb 18, 2015 11:32:41 GMT
...We're still kicking around the 1980's - rag ass Rovers style! City have the dosh, we don't - and we all know how modern day football operates! We won't play them in a league game in the next ten years. they have a billionaire owner(or close). not a millionaire. not even a multi-millionaire, but a BILLIONAIRE (or close). I would suggest that they are doing shockingly bad considering, can't even manage to build a new stadium (Shrewsbury managed it, and Rotherham, and Dorchester, and Dartford, and Chesterfield... shall I stop now?) and have even managed to reduce their capacity at the one time they are actually capable of getting higher crowds. If 'rag-ass Rovers' did that we would have had the water well and truly ripped out of us. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 11:51:44 GMT
Mods: not really a complaint, but is it necessary to transform the word "m0ney" into something else, or not allow us to say Bristol C1ty? I understand the idea of censoring some swear words, and "Pieces of eight" or "City82 Ltd" are amusing in their way, but maybe we should be allowed to make our own jokes? Or is it just a virus on my tablet? It will be sorted later. |
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Post by Gas-Ed on Feb 18, 2015 13:18:36 GMT
Whether you want to believe it or not, I think City will be a Premier League side within 5 years. They are slowly building the infrastructure and look to have found themselves a capable manager and team.
All this makes the building of UWE all the more important. Attracting fans to conference/league 2 football at a dilapidated old ground will be difficult with Championship/Premier League football just down the road.
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Post by baggins on Feb 18, 2015 13:23:29 GMT
Ah screw 'em. I really couldn't care less about where they are, what they're doing, how rich their owner is or anything to do with them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 13:23:47 GMT
Whether you want to believe it or not, I think City will be a Premier League side within 5 years. They are slowly building the infrastructure and look to have found themselves a capable manager and team. All this makes the building of UWE all the more important. Attracting fans to conference/league 2 football at a dilapidated old ground will be difficult with Championship/Premier League football just down the road. Or maybe easier to offer a cheaper, more inclusive, family friendly option. If Rovers ever got to the Prem how many of us would be priced out of going? |
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Post by baggins on Feb 18, 2015 13:29:39 GMT
Whether you want to believe it or not, I think City will be a Premier League side within 5 years. They are slowly building the infrastructure and look to have found themselves a capable manager and team. All this makes the building of UWE all the more important. Attracting fans to conference/league 2 football at a dilapidated old ground will be difficult with Championship/Premier League football just down the road. Or maybe easier to offer a cheaper, more inclusive, family friendly option. If Rovers ever got to the Prem how many of us would be priced out of going? Rovers in the Prem? Jeez, make a chap spit his pint everywhere why don't you? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 13:35:37 GMT
Whether you want to believe it or not, I think City will be a Premier League side within 5 years. They are slowly building the infrastructure and look to have found themselves a capable manager and team. All this makes the building of UWE all the more important. Attracting fans to conference/league 2 football at a dilapidated old ground will be difficult with Championship/Premier League football just down the road. No chance - Championship is a different kettle of fish. The level of spending City are at in League One is astronomical, even compared to the big clubs like Sheffield United. However, in the Championship nearly EVERY club possesses that kind of spending power. Capable manager? This is Cotterill we're talking about here right? Championship football will prove to be too much for him like it was at Stoke, Burnley and Forest. |
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Post by mehewmagic on Feb 18, 2015 13:47:08 GMT
Whether you want to believe it or not, I think City will be a Premier League side within 5 years. They are slowly building the infrastructure and look to have found themselves a capable manager and team. All this makes the building of UWE all the more important. Attracting fans to conference/league 2 football at a dilapidated old ground will be difficult with Championship/Premier League football just down the road. No chance - Championship is a different kettle of fish. The level of spending City are at in League One is astronomical, even compared to the big clubs like Sheffield United. However, in the Championship nearly EVERY club possesses that kind of spending power. Capable manager? This is Cotterill we're talking about here right? Championship football will prove to be too much for him like it was at Stoke, Burnley and Forest. perfect answer - Lansdown has clearly said that after years of wasting money, City have to pretty much fund itself. SL HAS the money to bankroll a huge push to the Prem but whether he would do that is a completely different story. If he won;t they will be a small to average fish in a medium sized pool. FACT - Average Att in Championship = 2012-2013: 13,348 - 2011-2012. City are turning the sinking ship around. SC is doing brilliant- fair play to him. But to suggest he would take them to the Prem is unlikely. |
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