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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 14, 2025 6:17:58 GMT
How many signings are needed to turn that shambles into a promotion chasing side? 4 won't be enough in my opinion. We need to try and get rid of some of last seasons squad that are still dragging us down, and probably need at least 6 quality additions to have any chance of a top 7 finish. DC is right when he said we don't need squad fillers. We need players that are significantly better than what we've got. You wouldn't have thought that would be difficult. . Would take midtable in a heartbeat, and think we maybe need 6 good signings for that. I think we'll get 3 or 4 average signings and that might just be enough to keep us up. I reckon best hope is a 17th place finish but can maybe see us as low as 20th. Lower still if the signings don't materialise / aren't sufficient upgrades. Jungle drums are saying that Raul is off back to Orient If we win our next 2 games (we won't BTW) will that change your view ? I agree staying up is the most important thing now and develope what little dross we have left |
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Post by Kipper on Aug 14, 2025 6:52:15 GMT
How do these various small-town and coastal resort clubs achieve Championship and Premier League status, while Rovers have stagnated these past 60-years?
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Post by gasify on Aug 14, 2025 6:56:25 GMT
How do these various small-town and coastal resort clubs achieve Championship and Premier League status, while Rovers have stagnated these past 60-years? A longer term strategic plan and investment in both the infrastructure and the team. |
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Post by Kipper on Aug 14, 2025 7:07:07 GMT
How can a very small town club like Chesterfield have the money to buy quality players and be among the promotion favourites? It makes one sick with Rovers so unsuccessful in a large city!!
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Post by gasify on Aug 14, 2025 7:15:22 GMT
How can a very small town club like Chesterfield have the money to buy quality players and be among the promotion favourites? It makes one sick with Rovers so unsuccessful in a large city!! What quality players have they bought? |
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Post by Kipper on Aug 14, 2025 7:19:16 GMT
According to the media and various League 2 managers, Chesterfield have assembled a squad to be among the promotion favourites.
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Post by Gassy on Aug 14, 2025 7:20:44 GMT
How do these various small-town and coastal resort clubs achieve Championship and Premier League status, while Rovers have stagnated these past 60-years? A longer term strategic plan and investment in both the infrastructure and the team. I’d go further. There’s 2 main reasons for me: 1. They’e also had owners with connections to attracting in new investment. None of our owners have been well connected to rich people, they just fob us into the next guy 2. Our ground is so poor that we’re just not an attractive investment. How do you wine/dine someone at the Mem? Does a potential buyer really see the Mem as an opportunity to show off to his mates that he owns a football club? And this point, if you wanted to make rovers a top L1/lower champ side with good facilities, you’d need to invest a minimum of what, £60m? Absolute minimum. You could probably invest £5m into someone like Chesterfield and get them to a similar position. |
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Post by gashead79 on Aug 14, 2025 7:24:46 GMT
How can a very small town club like Chesterfield have the money to buy quality players and be among the promotion favourites? It makes one sick with Rovers so unsuccessful in a large city!! Phil and Ashley Kirk. Local and successful businessmen. One of them is very ill according to the news. |
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Post by mftc on Aug 14, 2025 7:30:55 GMT
Feel sorry for DC and us, the fans.
A few windows of bad recruitment has meant we are wasting a lot of the budget on very average players on far too good wages.
Like other posters it will take quite a few windows to sort out.
Like Del boy says this time next year....may e we might have at least two points in the same league!, but better quality and committed players.
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Post by gasify on Aug 14, 2025 7:32:23 GMT
A longer term strategic plan and investment in both the infrastructure and the team. I’d go further. There’s 2 main reasons for me: 1. They’e also had owners with connections to attracting in new investment. None of our owners have been well connected to rich people, they just fob us into the next guy 2. Our ground is so poor that we’re just not an attractive investment. How do you wine/dine someone at the Mem? Does a potential buyer really see the Mem as an opportunity to show off to his mates that he owns a football club? And this point, if you wanted to make rovers a top L1/lower champ side with good facilities, you’d need to invest a minimum of what, £60m? Absolute minimum. You could probably invest £5m into someone like Chesterfield and get them to a similar position.I would also add a couple of other things: They went into Administration in 2001 I think. If so, we're they able to benefit from clearing the decks and restructuring. Losses. The opening question says how can Chesterfield afford signings. The signings were free transfers I suspect and if you look at the last couple of years their losses are less that ours. Last accounts filed shows we lost £2m more. |
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Post by TAGas on Aug 14, 2025 7:38:13 GMT
How do these various small-town and coastal resort clubs achieve Championship and Premier League status, while Rovers have stagnated these past 60-years? They don't have people like Abdullatif as their Executive Vice-President  |
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Post by Kipper on Aug 14, 2025 7:41:24 GMT
I would have thought Rovers being a club in a large affluent city would have had no trouble with attracting investment.
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Post by pirate on Aug 14, 2025 7:44:26 GMT
"carrying on bad recruitment on top of bad recruitment"
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Aug 14, 2025 8:33:20 GMT
I would have thought Rovers being a club in a large affluent city would have had no trouble with attracting investment. Oh we’ve attracted investors loads of times, as has been well documented. Our issue has always been a succession of owners unwilling to dilute their power/stake in the club in order to accommodate those new investors whilst their own resources are enough to keep the club running but not significantly improve it. |
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Post by mangadoogas on Aug 14, 2025 8:37:18 GMT
If you take off the blue tinted glasses we are not an attractive investment. I’ve said it before but the money that needs pouring into the club just to get us up to scratch is incredible.
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Post by kampucheagas on Aug 14, 2025 8:43:25 GMT
"carrying on bad recruitment on top of bad recruitment" Let’s just hope that doesn’t include DC’s own!! Jury still out on them all for me, it’s early days but I’m concerned we haven’t addressed the glaring issues from last season No PROPER full backs No PROPER leaders No REAL pace No NATURAL goalscorer And the worry is, do we have any budget to secure players in these roles and who on earth will see us as an attractive proposition? It might be that we need to get incredibly lucky in the loan market just to survive this season Worrying times. UTG |
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Post by Kipper on Aug 14, 2025 10:15:34 GMT
Not many half-decent players will relish joining Rovers in Division 2.
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Post by kampucheagas on Aug 14, 2025 10:20:45 GMT
Not many half-decent players will relish joining Rovers in Division 2. None! And that’s the point. We obviously haven’t got a structured plan in place for proper recruitment, we got a few frees in early and will now rely on getting lucky with loans. Once again, a really worrying transfer window, but then what’s new? UTG |
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 14, 2025 10:22:03 GMT
Has anyone even been linked with us? All seems to be quiet and we don't seem to be getting as many leaks as in the past. Unless fans are fed up if posting what they hear.
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Post by gasify on Aug 14, 2025 10:37:09 GMT
If you take off the blue tinted glasses we are not an attractive investment. I’ve said it before but the money that needs pouring into the club just to get us up to scratch is incredible. You have and you are right. I think that's why some are currently taking the "Better the devil you know" approach to the owners. Someone coming in and investing say £100m will want a return on that, lets put it at 2%. Even a £20k capacity stadium on the current location wouldn't really return that percentage. If you look at our neighbours, they arent making that level of profit to support those returns in the championship with player sales for £Ms. So the only reason someone will invest in us realistically is to become a play thing or as someone mentioned yesterday a status symbol. The only way serious investment will happen is if the current location is sold or student accommodation is built on it (and I would say more than the proposed 300 rooms) and a new stadium is built with all the non matchday revenues that is really important to the long term survival of a football club and needed to support the Bristol community. Even then, unless some 'outside the box' thinking is involved (cinema/shopping/snowdome), the financial justification isnt really there without Premiership football. |
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