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Post by mangadoogas on Aug 14, 2025 22:09:50 GMT
Yea as i said. Can’t imagine he’s looking to move south |
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Post by mangadoogas on Aug 14, 2025 22:19:53 GMT
What about historically ?. Why is it we are always in the lower leauges with sub standard facilities?. Swansea Cardiff Pompey Bournemouth City soton Brentford etc were all in our situation 20 years ago. Why is it we have one of the worst ground and worst team in the football leauge. Which is exactly the same as 20 years ago and 20 years before that ?. Its a great point that you are making. I guess we'd need to look at each of those independently and I expect there will be a pivotal moment, or a sequence of events that altered their history. If we looked at our pivotal moments, be it Wembley finals, changes of ownership, missing out on things etc, I think we've had it quite rough. Some of those clubs have better organised fangroups too(think Cardiff during the red branding thing), so they can effect change. Ultimately we've never had an ownership or group of people with the club at the front and centre of their interests. We could argue about GD and that crew or NH and those guys, but at best they just kept the club running rather than pushing to different levels through investment. Grateful for that but its miles away from SL at city or Southampton and Bournemouth etc. The biggest missed chance for us was the UWE. The club was on an upward curve at the time, I’m convinced if we had started work around 2017 we’d have ended up in the championship and probably have decent money men investing in the club. Biggest sliding doors moment since the 2000/2001 season imo. |
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Post by pirate on Aug 14, 2025 22:38:29 GMT
Will never forget that individual performance of his as a 17-year-old for Crewe at the Mem where he scored 2 and created another in a 5-2 defeat for us, which basically was the final nail in the Paul Buckle coffin. What a performance. |
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Post by Gas-Ed on Aug 15, 2025 8:30:19 GMT
Will never forget that individual performance of his as a 17-year-old for Crewe at the Mem where he scored 2 and created another in a 5-2 defeat for us, which basically was the final nail in the Paul Buckle coffin. What a performance. I remember him tearing us apart away at Wigan some years ago. |
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Post by mariobalotelli on Aug 15, 2025 13:41:04 GMT
Bobby Thomas subject to a £8M bid from Sheff United!
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Post by Gaswood on Aug 15, 2025 20:35:12 GMT
Bobby Thomas subject to a £8M bid from Sheff United! I’m sure Pirate has some stats to contradict me as it’s not always as obvious as it seems, but he never looked too good for us and I was surprised Plymouth went for him at quite a cost. Probably kicked on since but shocked he’d be worth even a quarter that!! EDIT: already corrected in mixing up Thomas and Gibson in the club bit, but Thomas was the one I meant for not looking great for us. Preferred Gibson |
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Post by madgas on Aug 15, 2025 20:45:32 GMT
He was sh** for us.
But there were a lot of raw qualities that were pretty obvious.
- He had a good physique.
- He scored a few.
- He was committed.
We had him as a kid. He was always gonna be league one and above. Butttttt equally developing others cannot always be the way. Loans need to be first team obvious. Back when we had him- he wasn't.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 15, 2025 21:06:16 GMT
Bobby Thomas subject to a £8M bid from Sheff United! I’m sure Pirate has some stats to contradict me as it’s not always as obvious as it seems, but he never looked too good for us and I was surprised Plymouth went for him at quite a cost. Probably kicked on since but shocked he’d be worth even a quarter that!! We fell apart once he departed and we've never really recovered, wasn't he replaced by Quansah? BT joined Coventry, it was Gibson who went to Plymouth, then moved to Blackburn. Now we just signed loan players who drop a division once they've played for us! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 15, 2025 21:06:55 GMT
He was sh** for us. But there were a lot of raw qualities that were pretty obvious. - He had a good physique. - He scored a few. - He was committed. We had him as a kid. He was always gonna be league one and above. Butttttt equally developing others cannot always be the way. Loans need to be first team obvious. Back when we had him- he wasn't.  |
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Post by kevonthehill on Aug 15, 2025 21:12:23 GMT
I’m liking this guy at Partick Thistle - Aidan Fitzpatrick. Not scared to run at teams, take a shot or get it in the mixer.
Can’t imagine we would stump up for him! But would be a great addition.
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Post by BRFC on Aug 15, 2025 21:21:50 GMT
He was sh** for us. But there were a lot of raw qualities that were pretty obvious. - He had a good physique. - He scored a few. - He was committed. We had him as a kid. He was always gonna be league one and above. Butttttt equally developing others cannot always be the way. Loans need to be first team obvious. Back when we had him- he wasn't. I think in that season we conceded far to many and players that played in the defence that season was Gibson -championship regular , Bobby Thomas -going Sheffield United 8m and Quansah who’s now a Champions league player. |
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Post by madgas on Aug 15, 2025 21:28:11 GMT
He was sh** for us. But there were a lot of raw qualities that were pretty obvious. - He had a good physique. - He scored a few. - He was committed. We had him as a kid. He was always gonna be league one and above. Butttttt equally developing others cannot always be the way. Loans need to be first team obvious. Back when we had him- he wasn't. I think in that season we conceded far to many and players that played in the defence that season was Gibson -championship regular , Bobby Thomas -going Sheffield United 8m and Quansah who’s now a Champions league player. But known of those were ours. None of them were likely a huge problem. Too many loans though. |
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Post by Gaswood on Aug 15, 2025 21:37:59 GMT
I’m sure Pirate has some stats to contradict me as it’s not always as obvious as it seems, but he never looked too good for us and I was surprised Plymouth went for him at quite a cost. Probably kicked on since but shocked he’d be worth even a quarter that!! We fell apart once he departed and we've never really recovered, wasn't he replaced by Quansah? BT joined Coventry, it was Gibson who went to Plymouth, then moved to Blackburn. Now we just signed loan players who drop a division once they've played for us! Yes, you’re right sorry - I mixed up their paths but Gibson was better than Thomas by far from the live matches, it’s the stats that might disagree. Thanks for the correction. Thomas was the one I felt was not up to the expectation from Burnley and was surprised Cov went in, whereas I felt Gibson coming in from Everton performed better and was gutted he went to Plymouth. My brain is melting away with old age mixing the two into one in my original post!!! |
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Post by mangadoogas on Aug 15, 2025 21:41:24 GMT
He was sh** for us. But there were a lot of raw qualities that were pretty obvious. - He had a good physique. - He scored a few. - He was committed. We had him as a kid. He was always gonna be league one and above. Butttttt equally developing others cannot always be the way. Loans need to be first team obvious. Back when we had him- he wasn't. I think in that season we conceded far to many and players that played in the defence that season was Gibson -championship regular , Bobby Thomas -going Sheffield United 8m and Quansah who’s now a Champions league player. Anyone would think the manager was bad. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 15, 2025 21:48:47 GMT
I think in that season we conceded far to many and players that played in the defence that season was Gibson -championship regular , Bobby Thomas -going Sheffield United 8m and Quansah who’s now a Champions league player. Anyone would think the manager was bad. So bad that we had defenders who are now worth a combined £50m! |
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 15, 2025 21:51:44 GMT
Its a great point that you are making. I guess we'd need to look at each of those independently and I expect there will be a pivotal moment, or a sequence of events that altered their history. If we looked at our pivotal moments, be it Wembley finals, changes of ownership, missing out on things etc, I think we've had it quite rough. Some of those clubs have better organised fangroups too(think Cardiff during the red branding thing), so they can effect change. Ultimately we've never had an ownership or group of people with the club at the front and centre of their interests. We could argue about GD and that crew or NH and those guys, but at best they just kept the club running rather than pushing to different levels through investment. Grateful for that but its miles away from SL at city or Southampton and Bournemouth etc. The biggest missed chance for us was the UWE. The club was on an upward curve at the time, I’m convinced if we had started work around 2017 we’d have ended up in the championship and probably have decent money men investing in the club. Biggest sliding doors moment since the 2000/2001 season imo. This whole century has been too many downs and not enough ups. But yes, I think you’re correct the collapse of the UWE which would have given us a completely new image and chance to develop. I didn’t think so at the time but as time has gone on it has looked the wrong decision. It wasn’t perfect but it would have probably brought new investment in. I wonder if Wael regrets, in hindsight his decision to walk away, because once that happened he really was clueless as to what to do next. (Not that he would admit to regretting it.) It was the sliding door moment. UTG! |
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Post by mangadoogas on Aug 15, 2025 21:56:00 GMT
Anyone would think the manager was bad. So bad that we had defenders who are now worth a combined £50m! Having contacts has 0 to do with managerial ability. Keep turning your fridge off in winter mate 👍🏻🤣 |
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Post by mangadoogas on Aug 15, 2025 21:58:01 GMT
The biggest missed chance for us was the UWE. The club was on an upward curve at the time, I’m convinced if we had started work around 2017 we’d have ended up in the championship and probably have decent money men investing in the club. Biggest sliding doors moment since the 2000/2001 season imo. This whole century has been too many downs and not enough ups. But yes, I think you’re correct the collapse of the UWE which would have given us a completely new image and chance to develop. I didn’t think so at the time but as time has gone on it has looked the wrong decision. It wasn’t perfect but it would have probably brought new investment in. I wonder if Wael regrets, in hindsight his decision to walk away, because once that happened he really was clueless as to what to do next. (Not that he would admit to regretting it.) It was the sliding door moment. UTG! We are assuming that it was Wael who walked away and not his Brother. |
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 15, 2025 22:08:03 GMT
That’s true but whoever in the family pulled the idea jt just makes it worse. If Wael pulled the UWE then he was clueless afterwards not knowing what to do. If it was the brother Hani (?) then he just pulled the UWE and he wasn’t concerned either way and wasn’t that interested in developing us. He may have just seen it as a means to stopping Wael spending family money. And if it was the brother then he condemned Wael to wander around being clueless for the next few years clinging on to pie-in-the -sky ideas of the Fruit Market or whatever.
Either way it seems, atm, to have been a critical sliding doors moment for BRFC.
UTG!
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Post by gastronome on Aug 15, 2025 23:30:29 GMT
We don’t stump up for anyone which is why we’re now shopping in the Swiss second tier for players. Conference all over us this season. This time next year we could be just one league above Yate.
A succession of bad owners and nobody to blame but ourselves as we put up with it.
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