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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 8, 2015 15:42:00 GMT
sorry Steve, but nothing is new here, yet you treat it as if it is, and make a real knee jerk reaction.
Even the title is wrong. It's an inevitable blip IMO. If it is not a blip then so be it; we all knew the weaknesses we have. Just like Barnet have weaknesses.
Do we need a creative midfielder? Yes. No different to the ENTIRE period when we lost 4 games in 37 matches.
All the problems that we saw yesterday were problems we already knew about, so why such a doom ladened post? We just came up against a team that was better than us ON THE DAY. They aren't even a team who are better than us in 38 games of this season so far. The point of a League system is to decide the best team over a long period of time, taking into account transfers, injuries, suspensions, discipline, evening games, midweek games, holiday games, months with few games, months with lots of games, staff members, attendances, money, psychology, pitches, winter, spring, autumn & even late summer. Plus interruptions of Cup games. Currently we are that team. Just. But what did we expect? Did we expect to remain unbeaten until the end of the season, win the league by 12 points and actually BEAT the amount of losses the 1989/90 winners had (5)? Whilst on that theme, how many people would have thought that on the 38th game of this season we have achieved more clean sheets (18 vs 17 at this point) and would be within 3 points & 7 goals of that AMAZING team [they had 76 points, and +28 GD, and let in 1 less goal that this season]. Yes, I do realise it was 2 divs higher. that isn't the point I'm making. I'm just showing how 'successful' this squad has been, even though it's not been easy, or that exciting.
This side has stats that are the envy of the WORLD. I am not exaggerating. Most teams in the entire world would die for our stats.
1 loss in 21. 5 losses in 38. Still 15 games unbeaten away. Let in 29 goals in 38 games. 18 clean sheets in 38.
This isn't Portugal, Belgium, Holland, SCotland or numerous other leagues completely dominated by a couple of clubs massively larger than the rest. This is the Conference prem, which is a hodge podge of teams on their way up, teams on their way down, ex-Lge clubs, tiny clubs, phoenix clubs, clubs with rich backers, clubs with quite decent stadiums and clubs with pretty poor ones. We aren't going to dominate EVERY team in this div. Never.
We are still top. Thinking that losing to a decent team is the end of the world is actually quite arrogant.
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 8, 2015 15:50:17 GMT
P.S. would actually be funny if we tried to steal Conor Clifford. Southend may not be too impressed at no contact from Allen, even if it may have an ulterior motive.
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Post by phillistine on Mar 8, 2015 16:15:59 GMT
ok guys - lets not get too carried away with the hatchet. 8 games from the end of last season we tried to drastically change things and look where it got us. That team has done well until yesterday and they don't suddenly become bad because of 1 poor performance.
The reality is that we have been well short in midfield for weeks but a combination of players working hard and a good system has helped us get by. This team is able to sit back and defend deep but we don't have a midfield dynamo who can run with the ball. We all know why
Away from home that is not such an issue and the problem only surfaces when we need to attack at home and our tactic is to try and hit the front men with a long pass instead of working our way through.
Maybe DC will find the player we need this week to try and change that but if he doesn't I think that we should all be grateful that we don't have to face another home game against Eastleigh .
Stick with it guys we can get there
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Post by wysemangas on Mar 8, 2015 17:54:58 GMT
Gould be the blip we need, just at the right time, to kick start another unbeaten run. This is the time DC must show his credentials, get them going again, sign a player to bolster the team Eastleigh were good for their victory and at using the Ref to their advantage
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2015 18:10:59 GMT
sorry Steve, but nothing is new here, yet you treat it as if it is, and make a real knee jerk reaction. Even the title is wrong. It's an inevitable blip IMO. If it is not a blip then so be it; we all knew the weaknesses we have. Just like Barnet have weaknesses. Do we need a creative midfielder? Yes. No different to the ENTIRE period when we lost 4 games in 37 matches. All the problems that we saw yesterday were problems we already knew about, so why such a doom ladened post? We just came up against a team that was better than us ON THE DAY. They aren't even a team who are better than us in 38 games of this season so far. The point of a League system is to decide the best team over a long period of time, taking into account transfers, injuries, suspensions, discipline, evening games, midweek games, holiday games, months with few games, months with lots of games, staff members, attendances, money, psychology, pitches, winter, spring, autumn & even late summer. Plus interruptions of Cup games. Currently we are that team. Just. But what did we expect? Did we expect to remain unbeaten until the end of the season, win the league by 12 points and actually BEAT the amount of losses the 1989/90 winners had (5)? Whilst on that theme, how many people would have thought that on the 38th game of this season we have achieved more clean sheets (18 vs 17 at this point) and would be within 3 points & 7 goals of that AMAZING team [they had 76 points, and +28 GD, and let in 1 less goal that this season]. Yes, I do realise it was 2 divs higher. that isn't the point I'm making. I'm just showing how 'successful' this squad has been, even though it's not been easy, or that exciting. This side has stats that are the envy of the WORLD. I am not exaggerating. Most teams in the entire world would die for our stats. 1 loss in 21. 5 losses in 38. Still 15 games unbeaten away. Let in 29 goals in 38 games. 18 clean sheets in 38. This isn't Portugal, Belgium, Holland, SCotland or numerous other leagues completely dominated by a couple of clubs massively larger than the rest. This is the Conference prem, which is a hodge podge of teams on their way up, teams on their way down, ex-Lge clubs, tiny clubs, phoenix clubs, clubs with rich backers, clubs with quite decent stadiums and clubs with pretty poor ones. We aren't going to dominate EVERY team in this div. Never. We are still top. Thinking that losing to a decent team is the end of the world is actually quite arrogant. Not if we end up in the playoffs.Being the better team over 46 games counts for nought. Like the Grimsby fans said about us,i wouldn't fancy playing them in the playoffs,far to streetwise for us on yesterdays evidence
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 8, 2015 18:22:26 GMT
ok guys - lets not get too carried away with the hatchet. 8 games from the end of last season we tried to drastically change things and look where it got us. That team has done well until yesterday and they don't suddenly become bad because of 1 poor performance. The reality is that we have been well short in midfield for weeks but a combination of players working hard and a good system has helped us get by. This team is able to sit back and defend deep but we don't have a midfield dynamo who can run with the ball. We all know why Away from home that is not such an issue and the problem only surfaces when we need to attack at home and our tactic is to try and hit the front men with a long pass instead of working our way through. Maybe DC will find the player we need this week to try and change that but if he doesn't I think that we should all be grateful that we don't have to face another home game against Eastleigh . Stick with it guys we can get there Unless creep into 5th place and we drop to 2nd? As far as MM and his stats our last promotion proves you just need to good over the last 10 or so games to go up, not the 2nd best over 46 games. I do wonder if we slip up now who will win the Championship, or finish 2nd if we don't, Barnet seem to have completely blown up, Macclesfield surely don't have the strength needed in depth, can Grimsby keep their recent form going or will they struggle with the pressure if they get near the top, likewise can FGR, even Eastleigh, keep their recent good runs going? The football on the pitch maybe awful to watch but the end to this season could be the most interesting for decades?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2015 18:28:48 GMT
I listened to radio solent for a while yesterday and the commentator said during the game that this could be Eastleigh's greatest victory. It really brought it home to me how much beating us means to these teams. These teams are going to be fired up and come at us like superhero's, we need to soak that up until they run their selves ragged. Eastleigh were lucky with the first goal, but in the end they beat us because they wanted it more.
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Post by stevek192 on Mar 8, 2015 19:20:23 GMT
Mehewmagic the name referred to the style of play which has been there for a long while with little change which has not always brought good performances but which has brought good results so the question is was yesterdays result a blip and we can continue to play in the same defensive way and pick up results again or was it inevitable that the way we play was going to come to an abrupt end. remember I comment on each game so yes there is going to be a knee jerk reaction to each game as it churns out. I do agree that it was inenvitable there would be a blip but is it just a blip. Only time will tell. From my own point of view I could understand whenw e were winning that it was unwise to change but it maybe the right time now to go a bit more attacking and playing the more creative players.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 8, 2015 19:27:44 GMT
We started yesterday with a forward line of Monkhouse, Taylor, Harrison & Dawson, whilst you could argue Balanta is more creative than Monkhouse that front line is hardly defensive?
Obviously midfield is a problem but it's hardly DC's fault Clark & Sinclair have been out injured, if we'd scrapped a draw yesterday nobody have really been worried but lose by one goal and posters are saying change the goalie, change our formation etc, it's a wonder somebody hasn't called for DC to be sacked and GJ appointed. I think we all need to just chill and see what next week match brings.
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 8, 2015 21:00:45 GMT
ok guys - lets not get too carried away with the hatchet. 8 games from the end of last season we tried to drastically change things and look where it got us. That team has done well until yesterday and they don't suddenly become bad because of 1 poor performance. The reality is that we have been well short in midfield for weeks but a combination of players working hard and a good system has helped us get by. This team is able to sit back and defend deep but we don't have a midfield dynamo who can run with the ball. We all know why Away from home that is not such an issue and the problem only surfaces when we need to attack at home and our tactic is to try and hit the front men with a long pass instead of working our way through. Maybe DC will find the player we need this week to try and change that but if he doesn't I think that we should all be grateful that we don't have to face another home game against Eastleigh . Stick with it guys we can get there Unless creep into 5th place and we drop to 2nd? As far as MM and his stats our last promotion proves you just need to good over the last 10 or so games to go up, not the 2nd best over 46 games. I do wonder if we slip up now who will win the Championship, or finish 2nd if we don't, Barnet seem to have completely blown up, Macclesfield surely don't have the strength needed in depth, can Grimsby keep their recent form going or will they struggle with the pressure if they get near the top, likewise can FGR, even Eastleigh, keep their recent good runs going? The football on the pitch maybe awful to watch but the end to this season could be the most interesting for decades? Someone posted on here that they did the stats and most years in the conf the 2nd or 3rd team goes up, so statistically it can be significant. Personally, judged on our oerformances and results against the top 6, and current form, no gas head will really fancy playoffs vs FGR or Eastleigh. However I bet no team will want to face us.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2015 23:39:25 GMT
Eastleigh whipped Macclesfield 4-0 last week and could be hitting form at just the right time, you are doing them a massive discredit, although when did we last come back from 1-0 down at home, we couldn't even do that against Bath? I think it would be madness to start Easter at Halifax, given his lengthy layoff er torquay and gateshead we came back from 1-0 down?
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Post by RD on Mar 9, 2015 6:24:53 GMT
A blip OR the inevitable? Both - blips are inevitable We pick ourselves up and we go again! UTG
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Post by baggins on Mar 9, 2015 11:48:02 GMT
A blip OR the inevitable? Both - blips are inevitable We pick ourselves up and we go again! UTG Yep.
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