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Post by markczgas on Jun 23, 2014 18:08:18 GMT
Good, and I think, accurate points Hugo.
What I hope ALL Rovers supporters should be agreeing on is that 1.) We should be given the details to the outcome of the internal review (but also informed who carried it out and which aspects of the club were being reviewed. 2.) We were promised a Q & A by NH so when is it happening ?
we are being very patient about these two things aren't we :-)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 18:11:52 GMT
Or infighting. There are obviously preferences made here at a personal level and it's a shame that there has been some daft stuff said already. water up and brewery. There is hostility by many on gaschat as Gasheads is seen as purely anti board yet it is not the case. I have yet to feel any such hostility in the other direction. This is not a competition between forums people. If there is to be any success in a tangible attempt to engage with a board who are openly hostile to the very idea, it will mean putting aside any perceived differences. Just reading this thread shows how quickly some can misread the piece in the paper. We need to make a concerted effort to stand united in our aims and that will mean standing together and not arguing over semantics. I think it can be done. Sorry KP, I fail to see any hostility here, just open debate. One poster mentioned a personal preference to the Unnamed group over BRISA and likened it to having a forum preference. No one has said anything negative at all about either forum on this thread. Please don't make problems where there were not any. Both forums can co-exist quite happily and many people use both. This is about how people feel is the right way to improve the water poor state we find ourselves in, not what forum we like. I would add though, that any group is going to be seen as divisive and will cause splits and infighting. No matter how good the intentions of the people or how hard they work. And no matter what their aims and objectives are. You only have to look at the SC. To some they are brilliant. They help fans to away games, the organize the 50/50, they have fans directors on the board they work hard, love the club and want whats best for BRFC. how great is that?! To others they are rose tinted suck ups who roll over so the BOD can tickle their tummy. I don't have the answers. Really ? Do you really not see the hostility ? You agreed with my post yesterday saying near enough the same thing. A couple of people on here had their noses put out of joint after claiming to have insider info and they posted fake claims about the stadium / boardroom / new players on the other forum and now have an agenda to slag it off. Its a shame its rubbing off on a few others. Lets just agree to disagree on approaches and find some common ground. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 18:14:01 GMT
I don't see it on this thread, no.
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Post by newmarketgas on Jun 23, 2014 18:18:36 GMT
Dinsdale, I think those comments were made on a different forum first and to be honest they have been hounded pretty much on a daily basis on the other forum ever since, now that is hostility towards others!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 18:33:58 GMT
I don't see it on this thread, no. KP was reffering to the hostility on this forum towards the other forum. I commented on it yesterday and you agreed with me. It was on another thread not this one. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 18:35:29 GMT
Dinsdale, I think those comments were made on a different forum first and to be honest they have been hounded pretty much on a daily basis on the other forum ever since, now that is hostility towards others! If you go on forums constantly claiming to have insider information and release big breaking news none of which is actually true then you are asking for a bit of come back. |
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Post by newmarketgas on Jun 23, 2014 18:40:47 GMT
Constantly ? is it constant or one issue ? I have seen other threads which have turned out to be rubbish but if you are in the 'gang' thats ok ! To be honest I don't really worry about it but to see the constant questioning of one member as to why they prefer one meeting to another is heading towards nagging at best !
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Post by Hugo Admin on Jun 23, 2014 18:44:53 GMT
Interesting read. My personal preference would be that no form of protest is made when any of the players are on the pitch. I think that is important for morale and fan-player respect. After all, this will be a mostly new group who are making a fresh start for us and who will have had very little to do with our current predicament. I understand the logistics of this may be difficult. Ras, you've got to think how has this group been put together, by whom, what is the long term strategy(if any), how were they recruited, are the squad players getting games to challenge the first teamers, is the physio up to his job etc etc - this should all have come out of the Internal Review !!! But where is it ?? If it's just support the boys in blue and white for the nth season repeating everything as before then what's going to happen ................................ I agree. I just find a fundamental difference between supporting the players and supporting the board. In my onions, one does not equal the other and supporting tge team is what we do best. I think we should try hard not to lose sight of that. However, of course there are bigger issues to confront and the logistics of any sort of mild protest will probably inevitably affect the playing staff as well as those it is directed towards. That in my opinion is a shame. Possibly unavoidable and a necessary evil, granted. The board are doing nothing but forcing our hands at the moment. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 18:50:57 GMT
Constantly ? is it constant or one issue ? I have seen other threads which have turned out to be rubbish but if you are in the 'gang' thats ok ! To be honest I don't really worry about it but to see the constant questioning of one member as to why they prefer one meeting to another is heading towards nagging at best ! I think they were trying to make a point that as the independant supporters club hasnt said anything yet how do you know if you agree with it or not. I dont think it has massive support anywhere yet and its struggling to get going. Ps it wasnt one issue and it was very annoying. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 18:51:10 GMT
Dinsdale, I think those comments were made on a different forum first and to be honest they have been hounded pretty much on a daily basis on the other forum ever since, now that is hostility towards others! If you go on forums constantly claiming to have insider information and release big breaking news none of which is actually true then you are asking for a bit of come back. So a couple of people on here who have had their noses put out of joint according to you,are actually people that post on all 3 forums.interesting you chose to say they were from this forum.Poor form sir. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 18:53:27 GMT
Ras, you've got to think how has this group been put together, by whom, what is the long term strategy(if any), how were they recruited, are the squad players getting games to challenge the first teamers, is the physio up to his job etc etc - this should all have come out of the Internal Review !!! But where is it ?? If it's just support the boys in blue and white for the nth season repeating everything as before then what's going to happen ................................ I agree. I just find a fundamental difference between supporting the players and supporting the board. In my onions, one does not equal the other and supporting tge team is what we do best. I think we should try hard not to lose sight of that. However, of course there are bigger issues to confront and the logistics of any sort of mild protest will probably inevitably affect the playing staff as well as those it is directed towards. That in my opinion is a shame. Possibly unavoidable and a necessary evil, granted. The board are doing nothing but forcing our hands at the moment. We are forgetting the important fact that there wont be a protest as they never happen. Very very small numbers get behind them. I agree that we should focus on supporting the players but if we dont get off to a flyer its going to be a nasty atmosphere. |
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Post by Hugo Admin on Jun 23, 2014 18:55:36 GMT
Leave the forum bullshit for a moment. There are three groups so far as far as I can see. BRISCA, the Wellington lot and those who don't give a f**k either way. Updates from Brisca are few and far between, I'm not wholly sure what they are about, what they have done, plan to do etc. That's only because I have yet to be told. I have however been well informed about the wellington posse. Think we just need more communication.
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Post by newmarketgas on Jun 23, 2014 18:58:33 GMT
Dinsdale, those are very good points, lets just hope we start with a bang !
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Post by newmarketgas on Jun 23, 2014 19:00:50 GMT
Ras, spot on, everyone is making great points now ! Jeeeze this place is becoming sensible......ish.
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Post by fanboy on Jun 23, 2014 19:02:13 GMT
Or infighting. There are obviously preferences made here at a personal level and it's a shame that there has been some daft stuff said already. water up and brewery. There is hostility by many on gaschat as Gasheads is seen as purely anti board yet it is not the case. I have yet to feel any such hostility in the other direction. This is not a competition between forums people. If there is to be any success in a tangible attempt to engage with a board who are openly hostile to the very idea, it will mean putting aside any perceived differences. Just reading this thread shows how quickly some can misread the piece in the paper. We need to make a concerted effort to stand united in our aims and that will mean standing together and not arguing over semantics. I think it can be done. Sorry KP, I fail to see any hostility here, just open debate. One poster mentioned a personal preference to the Unnamed group over BRISA and likened it to having a forum preference. No one has said anything negative at all about either forum on this thread. Please don't make problems where there were not any. Both forums can co-exist quite happily and many people use both. This is about how people feel is the right way to improve the water poor state we find ourselves in, not what forum we like. I would add though, that any group is going to be seen as divisive and will cause splits and infighting. No matter how good the intentions of the people or how hard they work. And no matter what their aims and objectives are. You only have to look at the SC. To some they are brilliant. They help fans to away games, the organize the 50/50, they have fans directors on the board they work hard, love the club and want whats best for BRFC. how great is that?! To others they are rose tinted suck ups who roll over so the BOD can tickle their tummy. I don't have the answers. I can only assume the comments above are mentioning mine, and I fail to see how I created hostility. I made it very clear it is a PERSONAL PREFERENCE... I don't think there's anything wrong with having one. There are ways I wish to support the club right now and there are ways that I am as a person and i have a preference! Can't see the problem! |
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Post by fanboy on Jun 23, 2014 19:03:57 GMT
Leave the forum bullshit for a moment. There are three groups so far as far as I can see. BRISCA, the Wellington lot and those who don't give a * either way. Updates from Brisca are few and far between, I'm not wholly sure what they are about, what they have done, plan to do etc. That's only because I have yet to be told. I have however been well informed about the wellington posse. Think we just need more communication. Ras stop talking sense or before you know it we'll have a fourth group ! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 19:04:26 GMT
Sorry KP, I fail to see any hostility here, just open debate. One poster mentioned a personal preference to the Unnamed group over BRISA and likened it to having a forum preference. No one has said anything negative at all about either forum on this thread. Please don't make problems where there were not any. Both forums can co-exist quite happily and many people use both. This is about how people feel is the right way to improve the water poor state we find ourselves in, not what forum we like. I would add though, that any group is going to be seen as divisive and will cause splits and infighting. No matter how good the intentions of the people or how hard they work. And no matter what their aims and objectives are. You only have to look at the SC. To some they are brilliant. They help fans to away games, the organize the 50/50, they have fans directors on the board they work hard, love the club and want whats best for BRFC. how great is that?! To others they are rose tinted suck ups who roll over so the BOD can tickle their tummy. I don't have the answers. I can only assume the comments above are mentioning mine, and I fail to see how I created hostility. I made it very clear it is a PERSONAL PREFERENCE... I don't think there's anything wrong with having one. There are ways I wish to support the club right now and there are ways that I am as a person and i have a preference! Can't see the problem! Nope i believe KP was referring to this forum generally |
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Post by Hugo Admin on Jun 23, 2014 19:07:38 GMT
Horrific place isn't it. "the cornhole of the internet"
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Post by peterparker on Jun 23, 2014 19:08:41 GMT
Constantly ? is it constant or one issue ? I have seen other threads which have turned out to be rubbish but if you are in the 'gang' thats ok ! To be honest I don't really worry about it but to see the constant questioning of one member as to why they prefer one meeting to another is heading towards nagging at best ! I myself merely asked fanboy how he can prefer the way the Welly lot want to do things when BRISA havent said anything that i can see that is disagreeable as they have said nothing about how they want to do anything |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 19:11:34 GMT
Leave the forum bullshit for a moment. There are three groups so far as far as I can see. BRISCA, the Wellington lot and those who don't give a * either way. Updates from Brisca are few and far between, I'm not wholly sure what they are about, what they have done, plan to do etc. That's only because I have yet to be told. I have however been well informed about the wellington posse. Think we just need more communication. RAS I want to love BRISCA but i dont. Thats because i helped RAFC with good intentions so saw how those kind of things get gunned down by both the board, supporters club and your average bemused fan. I also feel it should have been the sort of organisation to grow out of the wellington meetings rather then a couple of guys set up a group and then seek dialogue. Doesnt feel the right way round  I dont think there is hostility between the two groups but the two forums. Many of the people i know and respect on the IF went to both meetings. I do think there is a danger of the groups being seen to belong to the different forums which is not true as they belong to the fans. |
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