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Post by Jon the Stripe on Sept 22, 2015 16:14:46 GMT
For those forum users who do not know JTS I would like to say that he is one of the nicest blokes I have met and his intentions as a gashead are 100% genuine. I believe him to be of good character and is not the kind of person to give us this information unless he believes there is something in this Consortium Leak. I trust his judgement and his honesty 100% and like all of us I am just as intrigued by this as any gashead with a love of our fantastic club, we all have to try and be patient' I have had to be patient with many false dawns over my past 36 years following the Rovers but this time..... I trust in JTS UTG and please KTF I have no doubts about the gentleman's good intentions or love of the club, I believe I made that clear in my previous post. I still maintain, however, that the full facts should be reported to save all this endless speculation. Hi Old gas i have total respect and understanding for your posts therefore i shall respond with respect and understanding- firstly my 'rumour' is fact to the best of my knowledge - i think some people may be seeing this purely as an attack on our chairman by myself and this is not true - my motive if any was to 'out' the story cause if i know it Others must do too and why shouldn't everyone know? - plus try to get either the club or the consortium to 'show their hand' cause like everyone else i would like more and fuller confirmed details of whats happening - also "Why don't i post the full facts?" Well sadly i don't have them all is the truth so as you are right to point out i'm posting half a story which must appear annoying but i took the decision to let people know half the facts cause i thought it was better than nothing at all and hopefully as i said before pressure will build on both parties to say something and then i can shut the feck up and we'll all be happy! of course time will tell if i was right or wrong to do so and i have to live with that - just thought i tried to clarify ok mate - absolutely no malice meant to anyone including our BoD and i really have no reason or need for attention seeking -UTG |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 16:16:08 GMT
So Higgs is willing to hold back the club in order to get his cash back? This could get nasty. Here we go. Where in the article is there any proof of this? Just an article written days after rumors appears on a forum, so they can get some hits. |
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Post by Gas-Ed on Sept 22, 2015 16:17:46 GMT
So Higgs is willing to hold back the club in order to get his cash back? This could get nasty. Here we go. Where in the article is there any proof of this? Just an article written days after rumors appears on a forum, so they can get some hits. Vital Gas are usually on the money. Certainly a source that I trust. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 16:19:22 GMT
Here we go. Where in the article is there any proof of this? Just an article written days after rumors appears on a forum, so they can get some hits. Vital Gas are usually on the money. Certainly a source that I trust. So no proof then? A cheap way of getting hits. |
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Post by Parrot on Sept 22, 2015 16:21:14 GMT
I would imagine with it appearing on Vital, who as Gas-Ed says are usually "ahead of the curve" that we can expect to hear a end to the silence from the Club ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 16:30:24 GMT
I don't see a problem with Nick Higgs wanting his money back? It's loans isn't it? They normally need to be repaid....
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Post by Centenary Gas on Sept 22, 2015 16:31:59 GMT
I would imagine with it appearing on Vital, who as Gas-Ed says are usually "ahead of the curve" that we can expect to hear a end to the silence from the Club ? Vital publishing it certainly expands the story a bit, for example... www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/League+Two/Bristol+RoversI find it very strange that there has been radio silence from the BEP, BBC and GT on this. Previously I would expect any half assed rumour on here to be on the back page of the BEP the following day. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 22, 2015 16:33:36 GMT
I don't see a problem with Nick Higgs wanting his money back? It's loans isn't it? They normally need to be repaid.... Plus if true, if they have funds to build the Uwe and for the team then they must have enough to pay off the debts. They can still sell the mem elsewhere, which will cover the debts they had to pay. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 22, 2015 16:36:55 GMT
The Consortium is thought to be "Birmingham based" but currently the identities of the individuals involved are unknown.
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Post by gasbs7 on Sept 22, 2015 16:37:04 GMT
I don't see a problem with Nick Higgs wanting his money back? It's loans isn't it? They normally need to be repaid.... But if holding out 'for your money' is not in the best interests of the club then what. So you would be happy supporting a club with a diluted one third ownership of a reduced capacity UWE where we would be paying rent. As GD said he would rather have 100% ownership of the Mem rather than 33.3333% share of UWE |
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Sept 22, 2015 16:37:27 GMT
I would imagine with it appearing on Vital, who as Gas-Ed says are usually "ahead of the curve" that we can expect to hear a end to the silence from the Club ? Vital publishing it certainly expands the story a bit, for example... www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/League+Two/Bristol+RoversI find it very strange that there has been radio silence from the BEP, BBC and GT on this. Previously I would expect any half assed rumour on here to be on the back page of the BEP the following day. Watch this space sadly mate but expect media to go live very soon - BEP not really respected anymore so expect Points West or the like to jump on it is my bet |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 16:39:02 GMT
The Consortium is thought to be " Birmingham based" but currently the identities of the individuals involved are unknown. Go on then vital gas, explain! |
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Sept 22, 2015 16:40:48 GMT
I don't see a problem with Nick Higgs wanting his money back? It's loans isn't it? They normally need to be repaid.... Normally yes Si but i think many Gasheads feel he has lent the club money that some of his decisions have lost and now wants all of it back - i can see it from both sides tbf - UTG |
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Post by oldgas on Sept 22, 2015 16:40:44 GMT
I have no doubts about the gentleman's good intentions or love of the club, I believe I made that clear in my previous post. I still maintain, however, that the full facts should be reported to save all this endless speculation. Hi Old gas i have total respect and understanding for your posts therefore i shall respond with respect and understanding- firstly my 'rumour' is fact to the best of my knowledge - i think some people may be seeing this purely as an attack on our chairman by myself and this is not true - my motive if any was to 'out' the story cause if i know it Others must do too and why shouldn't everyone know? - plus try to get either the club or the consortium to 'show their hand' cause like everyone else i would like more and fuller confirmed details of whats happening - also "Why don't i post the full facts?" Well sadly i don't have them all is the truth so as you are right to point out i'm posting half a story which must appear annoying but i took the decision to let people know half the facts cause i thought it was better than nothing at all and hopefully as i said before pressure will build on both parties to say something and then i can shut the feck up and we'll all be happy! of course time will tell if i was right or wrong to do so and i have to live with that - just thought i tried to clarify ok mate - absolutely no malice meant to anyone including our BoD and i really have no reason or need for attention seeking -UTG |
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Post by gasbs7 on Sept 22, 2015 16:41:16 GMT
I would imagine with it appearing on Vital, who as Gas-Ed says are usually "ahead of the curve" that we can expect to hear a end to the silence from the Club ? Vital publishing it certainly expands the story a bit, for example... www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/League+Two/Bristol+RoversI find it very strange that there has been radio silence from the BEP, BBC and GT on this. Previously I would expect any half assed rumour on here to be on the back page of the BEP the following day. Maybe if EP or Radio Bristol rock the boat they will be relinquished any access to Rovers. Only a thought...... |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 22, 2015 16:42:37 GMT
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Post by banjoflyer on Sept 22, 2015 16:55:21 GMT
Of couse, it is probably speculative and based on the little we do know or has been rumoured, but if the deal is not acceptable because of the desire to have loans repaid, can they not agree to repay all loans should the appeal against JS be successful bringing in more funds for the Mem and not, or a lower amount, should the appeal fail. Payment by results?
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Post by fabregas on Sept 22, 2015 16:56:12 GMT
JTS has worked tirelessly over the last few years, for no personal gain, in order to build the FFSC. I have the utmost respect for him, and am prepared to cut him some slack on this story and believe that he has passed on the little bit he knows in order that the fan base is aware of current 'developments'. I don't expect him to know the full ins and outs of the negotiation so let's just accept that he's passed on all he knows.
The Vital story certainly adds credence IMO, and does seem to further set things in perspective. From what we've been fed it seems a 'consortium' is prepared to fund the building of UWE and to add further funds to the playing/operational budget. One thing that has not been mentioned, as far as I am aware, is how much they are also prepared to pay to buy the actual club and Memorial Stadium itself. This could well be a sticking point and, again IMO, NH is fully entitled to expect a return on those assets given the money he has pumped in.
In conclusion, if the offer is 'give us the club and we will invest' then I don't think it's a runner - particularly if the 'new investors' think they could agree an out of court settlement with Sainsburys to sell the Mem for, say, £20m and get half their investment back and leave NH with heavy losses.
That's my take on it anyway.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Sept 22, 2015 16:59:58 GMT
I don't see a problem with Nick Higgs wanting his money back? It's loans isn't it? They normally need to be repaid.... Well, basically he lost a load of our money, then. Whenever anyone criticised him you'd always get some spoon who would say 'well, it's his money, he can do what he likes.' Turns out it's not his money, it's the clubs, and he was just wasting it on our behalf, gambling on making money out of the club. He always went on about doing what's best for the club, but it looks like, when it cuts to the chase, he's only interested in doing what's best for him. Still, he's a Gashead innit. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 17:00:07 GMT
I don't see a problem with Nick Higgs wanting his money back? It's loans isn't it? They normally need to be repaid.... Normally yes Si but i think many Gasheads feel he has lent the club money that some of his decisions have lost and now wants all of it back - i can see it from both sides tbf - UTG That is understandable. But it is not their cash. There is little chance he is going to just step aside and let the club go for cost price when he has his own money tied into it. I know that posters would love Nick Higgs to put down his pen and walk away but that will come at a cost. He has also put a lot of work into the UWE over the last X years. I'm not his biggest fan but there's no room for emotion where business and cash are involved. |
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