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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 18:45:18 GMT
I heard that in order to be allowed on the Rovers board, you have to stick your nobby in a pig's head. Nobby, you got to get in a pig's head Mate. Oh, I've been there Bags, believe me. |
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Post by baggins on Sept 22, 2015 18:56:27 GMT
Nobby, you got to get in a pig's head Mate. Oh, I've been there Bags, believe me. Marry her? |
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Sept 22, 2015 18:58:41 GMT
Birmingham based? So it has to be Mike Turl, present owner of Solihull Moors, making a come back? If not what other Brummie has Rovers connections apart from BSS? Just my opinion (tell me to shut up if you like) but i think the Birmingham link is not really relevant and certainly not worth speculation mate - UTG |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 19:00:09 GMT
Birmingham based? So it has to be Mike Turl, present owner of Solihull Moors, making a come back? If not what other Brummie has Rovers connections apart from BSS? Just my opinion (tell me to shut up if you like) but i think the Birmingham link is not really relevant and certainly not worth speculation mate - UTG BAMM!! |
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Post by blackthorngas on Sept 22, 2015 19:10:48 GMT
Birmingham based? So it has to be Mike Turl, present owner of Solihull Moors, making a come back? If not what other Brummie has Rovers connections apart from BSS? Just my opinion (tell me to shut up if you like) but i think the Birmingham link is not really relevant and certainly not worth speculation mate - UTG Oh. So it's not jasper carrot then. |
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Post by Quartermaster on Sept 22, 2015 19:13:05 GMT
NH should swallow the loss, after all he's just paid the privilege of being BRFC chairman and the kudos that goes with. What's the saying, how do you turn £50m into £10m... Buy a football team. Shhh...the consortium might be reading! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 22, 2015 19:13:39 GMT
Birmingham based? So it has to be Mike Turl, present owner of Solihull Moors, making a come back? If not what other Brummie has Rovers connections apart from BSS? Just my opinion (tell me to shut up if you like) but i think the Birmingham link is not really relevant and certainly not worth speculation mate - UTG In that case it seems the Vital article has simply been lifted from this forum and he hasn't got a source for his info? Although as already suggested the more times this story is repeated the more pressure it puts on NH to acknowledge the bid. As far as TW why on earth would investors willing to put £40m into the club, want to keep an FD on board who didn't even plan for relegation? |
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Sept 22, 2015 19:17:34 GMT
I am absolutely NOT goin to apologise to anyone thank you Mr Good Samaritan. Maybe you should read my previous posts an this thread then you'll understand that I am not questioning the integrity of the information or the poster, but rather the fact that they provide us with only a snippet of what they know and not divulge the source. I have said it once and il say it again, for these people know the information it must already be in the public domain. No; try again: I am not a good Samaritan; just someone with good manners: I do not need to read your previous posts: " I bet they are behind the computer wank1ng themselves off at the thought of other people not knowing the information that they do. why don't they just grow up....." does enough to question the integrity of the ITKs, and is insulting. If the information is already in the public domain, why are you getting so worked up about it? Surely it would be easy for you to find it for yourself? ok so maybe you should have read my other posts before banging the Mr nasty drum. Il post this one for you in the hope that might read my others and actually understand what was getting at, instead of trying police my manners, to which you have failed. I am an il mannered menice so doooo one!! For the record when I say public domain I mean when info is leaked not necessarily all over the Internet. Leaked info can still be hard to get hold of, hence why I'm so interested in this thread. Gas Go Marching In said: Gastroenteritis said:at the end of the day whether this rumour is true or not there are certain people on this forum who like to divulge slight bits of information to make themselves feel like they are part of a clique 'in the know' and seem to get off on watching other people speculate. I bet they are behind the computer wank1ng themselves off at the thought of other people not knowing the information that they do. why don't they just grow up and tell us what they know because if they know something then the information is already in the public domain. Find this disrespectful to be honest especially seeing as the main culprit on this occasion has done a lot for this wonderful club of ours helping set up the FFS etc. He didn't have to tell us as much as he has and I'm sure he feels slightly guilty even if he thought it was the right thing to do at saying as much as he has. how is it disrespectful, I have observed this kind of posting on this forum and the old one many times before with the same outcome, People left completely guessing. However I will retract my above statement in view of JTS?? but my point is if you are privy to info that others are not allowed then just don't say anything at all. |
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Post by alvestongas on Sept 22, 2015 19:23:59 GMT
Birmingham based? So it has to be Mike Turl, present owner of Solihull Moors, making a come back? If not what other Brummie has Rovers connections apart from BSS? Why would they need Rovers connections? It's more likely they have none.......but see the potential. |
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Post by casey12a on Sept 22, 2015 19:25:52 GMT
So they would pay what NH has lost rather than what the club is worth as I don't think they're the same thing. Which is why I can see why things have stalled. Sorry, I just can't see where I said that. (ALL ?) By the way, just how much do you think the club is worth? I don't know, but if I hazard a guess, the football club is £1 and the Mem about £10-£12m. The debts are about that level. If a shortfall had to be covered I'm sure it would be. But it would be very little. We are knocking up interest payts of over £30k per month. "Vital is wrong with regard to NH's losses. They would clear all the debts." I agree with your estimate of what the club is worth but NH may think that it's £1 for the club, £10m-£12m for the mem and then the repayment of the loans on top of that. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 22, 2015 19:29:54 GMT
You just assumed that to invest that kind of money they would have some Rovers connections as that's usually the case in Bristol football. If they don't, and they see it purely was an investment opportunity, then it interesting to see thier business backgrounds if they do ever break cover.
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Post by casey12a on Sept 22, 2015 19:34:50 GMT
I maybe the only one but I think it could be beneficial to not to have a connection with the club. It can allow decisions to be make on a long term strategic basis rather than emotion. We all know as football fans being rational at times isn't our greatest strength.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 19:45:45 GMT
Lots of posts wide of the mark. To reiterate what I posted yesterday, there is a consortium, they have a sensible offer, NH for some reason isn't taking it seriously (but that might have changed?), speculation about Brum, Guernsey etc wide of the mark. Expect some news, one way or another, in next 48 hours, if NH to retain what little credibility he has with the fans. NH would break even and see UWE built so his legacy would be credible. AW would presumably be pensioned off.
But.....if NH fails to come clean very quickly with shareholders (and by definition BRSC and therefore us), then his position must surely be untenable?
Unless there is a better offer out there (there isn't) or he is holding out for more cash (in certain circumstances greed can get the better of anyone).
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Post by simon1883 on Sept 22, 2015 19:46:33 GMT
So they would pay what NH has lost rather than what the club is worth as I don't think they're the same thing. Which is why I can see why things have stalled. Sorry, I just can't see where I said that. (ALL ?) By the way, just how much do you think the club is worth? I don't know, but if I hazard a guess, the football club is £1 and the Mem about £10-£12m. The debts are about that level. If a shortfall had to be covered I'm sure it would be. But it would be very little. We are knocking up interest payts of over £30k per month. The club is worth what the Mem is worth. We have no other real assets.... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 19:51:28 GMT
Lots of posts wide of the mark. To reiterate what I posted yesterday, there is a consortium, they have a sensible offer, NH for some reason isn't taking it seriously (but that might have changed?), speculation about Brum, Guernsey etc wide of the mark. Expect some news, one way or another, in next 48 hours, if NH to retain what little credibility he has with the fans. NH would break even and see UWE built so his legacy would be credible. AW would presumably be pensioned off. But.....if NH fails to come clean very quickly with shareholders (and by definition BRSC and therefore us), then his position must surely be untenable? Unless there is a better offer out there (there isn't) or he is holding out for more cash (in certain circumstances greed can get the better of anyone). Why is his position 'untenable'? Because he hasn't read a internet forum and replied on said internet forum? You really haven't got a clue have you? |
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Sept 22, 2015 19:52:29 GMT
No; try again: I am not a good Samaritan; just someone with good manners: I do not need to read your previous posts: " I bet they are behind the computer wank1ng themselves off at the thought of other people not knowing the information that they do. why don't they just grow up....." does enough to question the integrity of the ITKs, and is insulting. If the information is already in the public domain, why are you getting so worked up about it? Surely it would be easy for you to find it for yourself? ok so maybe you should have read my other posts before banging the Mr nasty drum. Il post this one for you in the hope that might read my others and actually understand what was getting at, instead of trying police my manners, to which you have failed. I am an il mannered menice so doooo one!! For the record when I say public domain I mean when info is leaked not necessarily all over the Internet. Leaked info can still be hard to get hold of, hence why I'm so interested in this thread. Gas Go Marching In said: Gastroenteritis said:at the end of the day whether this rumour is true or not there are certain people on this forum who like to divulge slight bits of information to make themselves feel like they are part of a clique 'in the know' and seem to get off on watching other people speculate. I bet they are behind the computer wank1ng themselves off at the thought of other people not knowing the information that they do. why don't they just grow up and tell us what they know because if they know something then the information is already in the public domain. Find this disrespectful to be honest especially seeing as the main culprit on this occasion has done a lot for this wonderful club of ours helping set up the FFS etc. He didn't have to tell us as much as he has and I'm sure he feels slightly guilty even if he thought it was the right thing to do at saying as much as he has. how is it disrespectful, I have observed this kind of posting on this forum and the old one many times before with the same outcome, People left completely guessing. However I will retract my above statement in view of JTS?? but my point is if you are privy to info that others are not allowed then just don't say anything at all.  |
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 22, 2015 19:54:17 GMT
Two questions,
Is this an all or nothing deal? That is, could the UWE be financed and owned by the 'consortium' with us playing there and therefore NH remains in charge (subject to satisfactory safeguards on tenure).
Secondly, would this have an affect on player recruitment? If a deal is forthcoming could we have greater scope to bring in players sooner?
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Post by gasincider on Sept 22, 2015 19:55:55 GMT
I agree with your estimate of what the club is worth but NH may think that it's £1 for the club, £10m-£12m for the mem and then the repayment of the loans on top of that. So you think NH would want £22m for an asset worth at most £12m. Who does he think the consortium are, Sainsburys?
He won't get a deal like that anywhere. But more to the point he wont see a stadium built to its original spec either. So if he plays hardball, it can only be because he either loves the kudos of being chairman of a football league club, or he does want more money. Why would a so called Gashead hold out for ridiculous money if he loves the club? If you find out let everyone else know. It beggars belief. |
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Post by lincsblue on Sept 22, 2015 19:57:53 GMT
2M a season in gate receipts??
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 22, 2015 20:00:45 GMT
Surely if he's refusing to acknowledge a genuine £40m investment offer his position will be untenable?
Assuming there is some truth in the rumours then it could be an either better opportunity for Rovers than when the UWE plans were originally announced, as I assume the consortium will want to invest in the playing side of things as well as the ground itself.
Although the danger now is that we will get full details of the consortium's proposals and it will not be as good as it sounds.
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