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Post by WeAreTheGas on Sept 29, 2015 16:09:44 GMT
Just out of interest when is this new beginning due to start? When you least expect it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 16:14:40 GMT
Just out of interest when is this new beginning due to start? When you least expect it. It will start at the very beginning, a very good place to start... |
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Post by turdburger on Sept 29, 2015 16:15:34 GMT
When you least expect it. It will start at the very beginning, a very good place to start... will it be anything like me and finish shortly after? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 16:19:11 GMT
It will start at the very beginning, a very good place to start... will it be anything like me and finish shortly after? no you have to get a start to finish |
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Post by 4evergas67 on Sept 29, 2015 16:30:23 GMT
Just out of interest when is this new beginning due to start? When you least expect it. What a bit like the spanish inquisition? |
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Post by fanboy on Sept 29, 2015 16:31:53 GMT
It doesn't really matter if you believe it right now, it'll all be clear soon enough. But it was nice to know early, right? quoting the bible won't get us believers far fanboy. We need pictorial proof ala the last supper. Which I always found strange as fish is awful for supper. Dinner yes supper no. Which begs the question..... What do you guys call your evening meal? Tea? Dinner? Supper? It's all Greek to me! Just eat your vegetables and the consortium will buy your club. Didn't your parents ever teach you that? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 29, 2015 18:00:18 GMT
If you've ever purchased a house you'll know the bargaining/offers/stipulations/contracts/counter offers/demands etc that go on all controlled by accountants/lawyers/solicitors - now imagine buying a football club and stadia which has debts/agreements attached to it - mind blowing! And it aint gonna happen overnight UTG In that case why doesn't NH admit he's in early negotiations with a potential buyer instead of apparently making a complete denial? Regardless have the negotiations now moved on as last week we were told NH wasn't even taking the consortium seriously let alone discussing offers/contracts? |
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Sept 29, 2015 18:35:57 GMT
If you've ever purchased a house you'll know the bargaining/offers/stipulations/contracts/counter offers/demands etc that go on all controlled by accountants/lawyers/solicitors - now imagine buying a football club and stadia which has debts/agreements attached to it - mind blowing! And it aint gonna happen overnight UTG In that case why doesn't NH admit he's in early negotiations with a potential buyer instead of apparently making a complete denial? Regardless have the negotiations now moved on as last week we were told NH wasn't even taking the consortium seriously let alone discussing offers/contracts? I don't know why he doesn't make a small announcement saying what you said - have negotiations moved on and are they taking the offer seriously? - i hope so but you'll need to ask him that - UTG |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 18:52:05 GMT
It will start at the very beginning, a very good place to start... will it be anything like me and finish shortly after? When you read you begin with A-B-C When you sing you begin with do-re-mi |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 18:59:24 GMT
will it be anything like me and finish shortly after? When you read you begin with A-B-C When you sing you begin with do-re-mi do-re-mi? You must sound like a cement mixer when you sing? |
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Post by dave on Sept 29, 2015 22:00:51 GMT
Ok so now im going to have my 5p worth. This was a potentially incredible topic but the continuing silence is now beyond deafening. I appreciate that its 'usually' helpful when people ITK pass on snippits of information that they think may be interesting, however, I have the following observation based on the questions ut to JTS, gasincider etc. and the answers they've given.
It seem they (those ITK on this thread) are now in a 'no lose' situation becasuse if/as and when nothing happens they'll have the fall back position of it must have been down to NH scuppering the deal due to his greed / ambition (delete as appropriate). I dont think after all there assurances they are going to be able to say there was nothing in it, even if there is proof that there never was, and someone is just winding them up.
For what its worth. IMHO its pie in the sky, cant see any valid reason why any serious investor would chuck £50ml at an invenstent that will give next to nothing by way of a return, wont give them any security with regards to the stadium (i.e the whole £30 - £40 ml is dead mony and cant be borrowed against). Unless they are die hard gasheads (and where have they been up to now when we've needed them) they will get muchg better returns on virtually ANY other form of investment they might choose to make.
Its such a dissapointment but there you go typical for us.
Sorry, I feel better now.
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Post by justin blue on Sept 29, 2015 22:08:50 GMT
I can't wait until the new beginning has begun
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Post by readinggas on Sept 29, 2015 23:37:00 GMT
Ok so now im going to have my 5p worth. This was a potentially incredible topic but the continuing silence is now beyond deafening. I appreciate that its 'usually' helpful when people ITK pass on snippits of information that they think may be interesting, however, I have the following observation based on the questions ut to JTS, gasincider etc. and the answers they've given. It seem they (those ITK on this thread) are now in a 'no lose' situation becasuse if/as and when nothing happens they'll have the fall back position of it must have been down to NH scuppering the deal due to his greed / ambition (delete as appropriate). I dont think after all there assurances they are going to be able to say there was nothing in it, even if there is proof that there never was, and someone is just winding them up. For what its worth. IMHO its pie in the sky, cant see any valid reason why any serious investor would chuck £50ml at an invenstent that will give next to nothing by way of a return, wont give them any security with regards to the stadium (i.e the whole £30 - £40 ml is dead mony and cant be borrowed against). Unless they are die hard gasheads (and where have they been up to now when we've needed them) they will get muchg better returns on virtually ANY other form of investment they might choose to make. Its such a dissapointment but there you go typical for us. Sorry, I feel better now. Patience. As I said a few days back, if this consortium are real and genuinely want to mount a bid, they will reveal themselves in due course. Be calm, it's a long game. |
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Sept 30, 2015 5:34:13 GMT
Ok so now im going to have my 5p worth. This was a potentially incredible topic but the continuing silence is now beyond deafening. I appreciate that its 'usually' helpful when people ITK pass on snippits of information that they think may be interesting, however, I have the following observation based on the questions ut to JTS, gasincider etc. and the answers they've given. It seem they (those ITK on this thread) are now in a 'no lose' situation becasuse if/as and when nothing happens they'll have the fall back position of it must have been down to NH scuppering the deal due to his greed / ambition (delete as appropriate). I dont think after all there assurances they are going to be able to say there was nothing in it, even if there is proof that there never was, and someone is just winding them up. For what its worth. IMHO its pie in the sky, cant see any valid reason why any serious investor would chuck £50ml at an invenstent that will give next to nothing by way of a return, wont give them any security with regards to the stadium (i.e the whole £30 - £40 ml is dead mony and cant be borrowed against). Unless they are die hard gasheads (and where have they been up to now when we've needed them) they will get muchg better returns on virtually ANY other form of investment they might choose to make. Its such a dissapointment but there you go typical for us. Sorry, I feel better now. Totally understand your scepticism Dave and don't blame you - only time will tell now - buy FWIW i stand by my original tweet that a consortium are seriously trying to takeover the club with funds to build UWE as per original plans - i understand things are in the discussions stage still with plenty of games being played out - as a goodwill gesture i will put £50 into the FFS Club if proved wrong for being a pain in the ass on here or incredibly stupid and gullible! - UTG |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 30, 2015 6:50:36 GMT
Ok so now im going to have my 5p worth. This was a potentially incredible topic but the continuing silence is now beyond deafening. I appreciate that its 'usually' helpful when people ITK pass on snippits of information that they think may be interesting, however, I have the following observation based on the questions ut to JTS, gasincider etc. and the answers they've given. It seem they (those ITK on this thread) are now in a 'no lose' situation becasuse if/as and when nothing happens they'll have the fall back position of it must have been down to NH scuppering the deal due to his greed / ambition (delete as appropriate). I dont think after all there assurances they are going to be able to say there was nothing in it, even if there is proof that there never was, and someone is just winding them up. For what its worth. IMHO its pie in the sky, cant see any valid reason why any serious investor would chuck £50ml at an invenstent that will give next to nothing by way of a return, wont give them any security with regards to the stadium (i.e the whole £30 - £40 ml is dead mony and cant be borrowed against). Unless they are die hard gasheads (and where have they been up to now when we've needed them) they will get muchg better returns on virtually ANY other form of investment they might choose to make. Its such a dissapointment but there you go typical for us. Sorry, I feel better now. Totally understand your scepticism Dave and don't blame you - only time will tell now - buy FWIW i stand by my original tweet that a consortium are seriously trying to takeover the club with funds to build UWE as per original plans - i understand things are in the discussions stage still with plenty of games being played out - as a goodwill gesture i will put £50 into the FFS Club if proved wrong for being a pain in the ass on here or incredibly stupid and gullible! - UTG If you put 50quid in every time you are stupid the FFSC could have bought the club out by now!  |
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Post by justin blue on Sept 30, 2015 7:50:23 GMT
Ok so now im going to have my 5p worth. This was a potentially incredible topic but the continuing silence is now beyond deafening. I appreciate that its 'usually' helpful when people ITK pass on snippits of information that they think may be interesting, however, I have the following observation based on the questions ut to JTS, gasincider etc. and the answers they've given. It seem they (those ITK on this thread) are now in a 'no lose' situation becasuse if/as and when nothing happens they'll have the fall back position of it must have been down to NH scuppering the deal due to his greed / ambition (delete as appropriate). I dont think after all there assurances they are going to be able to say there was nothing in it, even if there is proof that there never was, and someone is just winding them up. For what its worth. IMHO its pie in the sky, cant see any valid reason why any serious investor would chuck £50ml at an invenstent that will give next to nothing by way of a return, wont give them any security with regards to the stadium (i.e the whole £30 - £40 ml is dead mony and cant be borrowed against). Unless they are die hard gasheads (and where have they been up to now when we've needed them) they will get muchg better returns on virtually ANY other form of investment they might choose to make. Its such a dissapointment but there you go typical for us. Sorry, I feel better now. Totally understand your scepticism Dave and don't blame you - only time will tell now - buy FWIW i stand by my original tweet that a consortium are seriously trying to takeover the club with funds to build UWE as per original plans - i understand things are in the discussions stage still with plenty of games being played out - as a goodwill gesture i will put £50 into the FFS Club if proved wrong for being a pain in the ass on here or incredibly stupid and gullible! - UTG Where can we buy this and is it any good |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 30, 2015 8:03:06 GMT
Ok so now im going to have my 5p worth. This was a potentially incredible topic but the continuing silence is now beyond deafening. I appreciate that its 'usually' helpful when people ITK pass on snippits of information that they think may be interesting, however, I have the following observation based on the questions ut to JTS, gasincider etc. and the answers they've given. It seem they (those ITK on this thread) are now in a 'no lose' situation becasuse if/as and when nothing happens they'll have the fall back position of it must have been down to NH scuppering the deal due to his greed / ambition (delete as appropriate). I dont think after all there assurances they are going to be able to say there was nothing in it, even if there is proof that there never was, and someone is just winding them up. For what its worth. IMHO its pie in the sky, cant see any valid reason why any serious investor would chuck £50ml at an invenstent that will give next to nothing by way of a return, wont give them any security with regards to the stadium (i.e the whole £30 - £40 ml is dead mony and cant be borrowed against). Unless they are die hard gasheads (and where have they been up to now when we've needed them) they will get muchg better returns on virtually ANY other form of investment they might choose to make. Its such a dissapointment but there you go typical for us. Sorry, I feel better now. Assuming they are/were genuine it seems investors were prepared to invest similar money in Northampton who surely have nothing like our investment potential? |
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Post by justin blue on Sept 30, 2015 8:10:41 GMT
Ok so now im going to have my 5p worth. This was a potentially incredible topic but the continuing silence is now beyond deafening. I appreciate that its 'usually' helpful when people ITK pass on snippits of information that they think may be interesting, however, I have the following observation based on the questions ut to JTS, gasincider etc. and the answers they've given. It seem they (those ITK on this thread) are now in a 'no lose' situation becasuse if/as and when nothing happens they'll have the fall back position of it must have been down to NH scuppering the deal due to his greed / ambition (delete as appropriate). I dont think after all there assurances they are going to be able to say there was nothing in it, even if there is proof that there never was, and someone is just winding them up. For what its worth. IMHO its pie in the sky, cant see any valid reason why any serious investor would chuck £50ml at an invenstent that will give next to nothing by way of a return, wont give them any security with regards to the stadium (i.e the whole £30 - £40 ml is dead mony and cant be borrowed against). Unless they are die hard gasheads (and where have they been up to now when we've needed them) they will get muchg better returns on virtually ANY other form of investment they might choose to make. Its such a dissapointment but there you go typical for us. Sorry, I feel better now. Assuming they are/were genuine it seems investors were prepared to invest similar money in Northampton who surely have nothing like our investment potential? That was looking dodgy a week or so back with Northampton reportedly 10m in debt. Any news on that? |
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Post by fabregas on Sept 30, 2015 8:44:33 GMT
Ok so now im going to have my 5p worth. This was a potentially incredible topic but the continuing silence is now beyond deafening. I appreciate that its 'usually' helpful when people ITK pass on snippits of information that they think may be interesting, however, I have the following observation based on the questions ut to JTS, gasincider etc. and the answers they've given. It seem they (those ITK on this thread) are now in a 'no lose' situation becasuse if/as and when nothing happens they'll have the fall back position of it must have been down to NH scuppering the deal due to his greed / ambition (delete as appropriate). I dont think after all there assurances they are going to be able to say there was nothing in it, even if there is proof that there never was, and someone is just winding them up. For what its worth. IMHO its pie in the sky, cant see any valid reason why any serious investor would chuck £50ml at an invenstent that will give next to nothing by way of a return, wont give them any security with regards to the stadium (i.e the whole £30 - £40 ml is dead mony and cant be borrowed against). Unless they are die hard gasheads (and where have they been up to now when we've needed them) they will get muchg better returns on virtually ANY other form of investment they might choose to make. Its such a dissapointment but there you go typical for us. Sorry, I feel better now. No idea if the rumour is true or not, but I am prepared to believe it's just possible. In fact, I think you can make a very solid business case for 'a multi-purpose sports stadium' at UWE. |
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Post by dave on Sept 30, 2015 9:50:16 GMT
Ok so now im going to have my 5p worth. This was a potentially incredible topic but the continuing silence is now beyond deafening. I appreciate that its 'usually' helpful when people ITK pass on snippits of information that they think may be interesting, however, I have the following observation based on the questions ut to JTS, gasincider etc. and the answers they've given. It seem they (those ITK on this thread) are now in a 'no lose' situation becasuse if/as and when nothing happens they'll have the fall back position of it must have been down to NH scuppering the deal due to his greed / ambition (delete as appropriate). I dont think after all there assurances they are going to be able to say there was nothing in it, even if there is proof that there never was, and someone is just winding them up. For what its worth. IMHO its pie in the sky, cant see any valid reason why any serious investor would chuck £50ml at an invenstent that will give next to nothing by way of a return, wont give them any security with regards to the stadium (i.e the whole £30 - £40 ml is dead mony and cant be borrowed against). Unless they are die hard gasheads (and where have they been up to now when we've needed them) they will get muchg better returns on virtually ANY other form of investment they might choose to make. Its such a dissapointment but there you go typical for us. Sorry, I feel better now. No idea if the rumour is true or not, but I am prepared to believe it's just possible. In fact, I think you can make a very solid business case for 'a multi-purpose sports stadium' at UWE. Anyone any idea about stadium values? Do they increase like house prices (assuming favorable trading conditions) or do they start to depreciate as soon as its finished like with a car. Its the stadium that to me is the main sticking point. If the value increases then of course this helps with the investment return if it doesnt thats a major problem. If we had a ground that could easily be developed like them south of the river then yes our potential as an investment would be much stronger with all of our potential. I'm looking at this purely financially though at the moment as we cant assume that it's gasheads heading up any consortium and that's how they must be looking at it. There is an inability to borrow against the UWE stadium, anyone know what is the situation with regards to selling it from one party to another in the future? Is that going to be straightforward and what part do UWE play in any such decisions? |
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