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Post by mariobalotelli on Sept 30, 2015 12:16:42 GMT
I don't use Twitter, but how can you be caught off guard when replying to a Tweet? Surly you have ample time to respond to a Tweet? Was the tweeter reporting a conversation or was it a Twitter exchange? Must admit this is the first thing Nick has said that has made me doubt the original rumours. All very odd. The Tweets are from a ITV reporter of which I can only assume he has asked NH about the situation himself and simply Tweeted what NH said.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 12:22:28 GMT
So gasincider who started this 'rumour' has also started threads;
Sep 10 2014 - 'Story circulating at the Mem tonight that NH is looking to involve Tommy Agombar/ Jed McCrory in investing in the club.
If true this will really spell the end of our club. Aren't these the guys that wrecked Hereford and left Swindon with a £14 million pound debt?
They are bloody asset strippers Nick. Just pick up the phone to Swindon or Hereford and you will get the full picture of these two.
July 20 - 'Heard a strong rumour that former Swindon chairman Jeremy Wray may be looking at us with a view to a prospective purchase of the club.'
Aswell as countless threads RE;Higgs
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Post by mariobalotelli on Sept 30, 2015 12:29:57 GMT
So gasincider who started this 'rumor' has also started threads; Sep 10 2014 - 'Story circulating at the Mem tonight that NH is looking to involve Tommy Agombar/ Jed McCrory in investing in the club. If true this will really spell the end of our club. Aren't these the guys that wrecked Hereford and left Swindon with a £14 million pound debt? They are bloody asset strippers Nick. Just pick up the phone to Swindon or Hereford and you will get the full picture of these two. July 20 - 'Heard a strong rumour that former Swindon chairman Jeremy Wray may be looking at us with a view to a prospective purchase of the club.' Aswell as countless threads RE;Higgs He started this thread with "I understand from Twitter" I'm not sure how one can transition from seeing something on Twitter to being ITK?
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 30, 2015 12:34:31 GMT
I don't use Twitter, but how can you be caught off guard when replying to a Tweet? Surly you have ample time to respond to a Tweet? Was the tweeter reporting a conversation or was it a Twitter exchange? Must admit this is the first thing Nick has said that has made me doubt the original rumours. All very odd. The conversation is shown in speech marks so i assume it's word for word what NH said, it could well be the interview will be even played in the sports news? Not sure what to believe anymore apart from it always sounded too good to be true?
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Post by gasincider on Sept 30, 2015 12:37:17 GMT
I stand by my story. What I don't know is the context in which NH is denying the consortium exists, so I can't comment on that.
Former chairman not involved as far as I am aware.
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Post by fanboy on Sept 30, 2015 12:44:50 GMT
It's as if the starting of the rumour in this way may actually end up working out for them.... We all know the sh** Higgs comes out with when he gets flustered. I'd love to know whether ITV caught him off guard or whether he actually had time to think about this ridiculous lie. I don't use Twitter, but how can you be caught off guard when replying to a Tweet? Surly you have ample time to respond to a Tweet? It's a reporter tweeting what Nick Higgs has told him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 12:53:12 GMT
So gasincider who started this 'rumor' has also started threads; Sep 10 2014 - 'Story circulating at the Mem tonight that NH is looking to involve Tommy Agombar/ Jed McCrory in investing in the club. If true this will really spell the end of our club. Aren't these the guys that wrecked Hereford and left Swindon with a £14 million pound debt? They are bloody asset strippers Nick. Just pick up the phone to Swindon or Hereford and you will get the full picture of these two. July 20 - 'Heard a strong rumour that former Swindon chairman Jeremy Wray may be looking at us with a view to a prospective purchase of the club.' Aswell as countless threads RE;Higgs He started this thread with "I understand from Twitter" I'm not sure how one can transition from seeing something on Twitter to being ITK? Oh yeah just saw that. Surly then he can post the Tweet where he got this 'information' from? If it's out there on Twitter it cant be that secret?
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Post by dave on Sept 30, 2015 13:07:05 GMT
He started this thread with "I understand from Twitter" I'm not sure how one can transition from seeing something on Twitter to being ITK? Oh yeah just saw that. Surly then he can post the Tweet where he got this 'information' from? If it's out there on Twitter it cant be that secret? There is a post on page 2 that confirms that even back then (way back in the day!) no one else could find anything about this subject on twitter.......
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 30, 2015 13:12:19 GMT
The tweet was from JTS via Fan's Forum Sponsors@ffsclub
"It is my understanding a new consortium have put in an offer to buy the club and have immediate funds to build UWE to original blueprints"
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 30, 2015 13:17:08 GMT
I'm not 100% certain but could this statement not be considered libelous? He has denied any knowledge of the consortium and you are accusing him of lying about it directly. You MAY want to consider whether its appropriate to leave this on the forum worded in this manner. I stand by my story. What I don't know is the context in which NH is denying the consortium exists, so I can't comment on that. Former chairman not involved as far as I am aware. Surely there's no mystery about it, NH is stating the consortium doesn't exist, pure & simple, here's the twitter feed twitter.com/ITVMatthias/with_replies Nobody has said a former chairman is involved, just that somebody he's worked with could be involved in the "leak"
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Post by fanboy on Sept 30, 2015 13:21:55 GMT
I stand by my story. What I don't know is the context in which NH is denying the consortium exists, so I can't comment on that. Former chairman not involved as far as I am aware. Surely there's no mystery about it, NH is stating the consortium doesn't exist, pure & simple, here's the twitter feed twitter.com/ITVMatthias/with_replies Nobody has said a former chairman is involved, just that somebody he's worked with could be involved in the "leak" Naughty Higgs. Just made it so much more difficult for himself to stay when the truth does, inevitably, come out.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 30, 2015 13:26:00 GMT
Surely there's no mystery about it, NH is stating the consortium doesn't exist, pure & simple, here's the twitter feed twitter.com/ITVMatthias/with_replies Nobody has said a former chairman is involved, just that somebody he's worked with could be involved in the "leak" Naughty Higgs. Just made it so much more difficult for himself to stay when the truth does, inevitably, come out. Its suicide. Surely the Consortium could go public today and basically Nick won't have a friend in the world. I don't understand the reasoning for them not taking this opportunity now?? They surely have to go public and confirm via some front man that they exist.
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Post by fanboy on Sept 30, 2015 13:32:55 GMT
Naughty Higgs. Just made it so much more difficult for himself to stay when the truth does, inevitably, come out. Its suicide. Surely the Consortium could go public today and basically Nick won't have a friend in the world. I don't understand the reasoning for them not taking this opportunity now?? They surely have to go public and confirm via some front man that they exist. People were saying little over a week ago that the consortium should offer Higgs more money. Well if he is going to continue digging his own grave why would they not let him!
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Post by dave on Sept 30, 2015 13:33:45 GMT
Naughty Higgs. Just made it so much more difficult for himself to stay when the truth does, inevitably, come out. Its suicide. Surely the Consortium could go public today and basically Nick won't have a friend in the world. I don't understand the reasoning for them not taking this opportunity now?? They surely have to go public and confirm via some front man that they exist. and if they dont go public (perhaps because they dont exist as per NH), can we finally put this thread to rest?
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Post by fanboy on Sept 30, 2015 13:41:55 GMT
Its suicide. Surely the Consortium could go public today and basically Nick won't have a friend in the world. I don't understand the reasoning for them not taking this opportunity now?? They surely have to go public and confirm via some front man that they exist. and if they dont go public (perhaps because they dont exist as per NH), can we finally put this thread to rest? I for one would be devestated as that would mean Nick Higgs stubbornness had lost us the chance to really become the powerhouse we have all dreamed of.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 30, 2015 13:41:48 GMT
Its suicide. Surely the Consortium could go public today and basically Nick won't have a friend in the world. I don't understand the reasoning for them not taking this opportunity now?? They surely have to go public and confirm via some front man that they exist. People were saying little over a week ago that the consortium should offer Higgs more money. Well if he is going to continue digging his own grave why would they not let him! It doesn't work unless they go public though. Nick says "No consortium" Consortium says "......." Therefore Nick is not lying.
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Post by RD on Sept 30, 2015 13:49:56 GMT
Think that's swayed me for now. I did believe the rumours and believed it could well be possible, even with the absence of any factual information (i.e. no smoke without fire).
But I must say that I think a couple of people have been led down the garden path (JTS and Gasincider) - either intentionally by the person/people that told them or by complete accident (e.g. their source(s) took 2 and 2 and got 5).
Gasincider - your original post is odd now that I think about it though. The opening post begins "I understand from Twitter". To me, that doesn't say "I'm ITK". The only reason that makes anyone more ITK than someone else is because they've caught sight of a public tweet that someone else hasn't yet seen - hardly ITK IMO. Funnily enough, JTS originally broke the rumour via tweet - is that your original source of this information Gasincider? (serious question, I'm not trying to be a smartass).
Further to that, there have been a couple of posts from myself (amongst others) asking for even the tiniest shred of additional evidence to back up continued belief in the rumour. Not to mention Gasincider, your remark the other day that you "were now more convinced than ever". When asked to explain why - without giving any specifics away - you still refused. That just seems really odd IMO.
Couple that with numerous "inside scoops" you've given us previously that have all been inaccurate (see Gashead Gaz post above) and I do have to wonder how good your source really is?
No offence intended, although I wouldn't blame you for taking some; I apologise - I am just losing all faith in this now. Well actually, I've lost complete faith in these rumours.
I'm sure that no one has set out to try and intentionally mislead us and I don't doubt that everyone's heart was in the right place, but I do think that Nick Higgs' latest remarks do now make continuing to believe this rumour akin to believing the various greatest conspiracy theories of our time.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 30, 2015 13:54:43 GMT
Think that's swayed me for now. I did believe the rumours and believed it could well be possible, even with the absence of any factual information (i.e. no smoke without fire). But I must say that I think a couple of people have been led down the garden path - either intentionally by the person/people that told them or by accident (e.g. their source took 2 and 2 and got 5). Gasincider's original post is odd now I think about it though. The opening post begins "I understand from Twitter". To me, that doesn't say "I'm ITK". The only reason that would make anyone more ITK than someone else if if they read a tweet that someone else hadn't seen - hardly ITK IMO. Further to that, there have been a couple of posts from myself (amongst others) asking for even the tiniest shred of additional evidence to back up continued belief in the rumour. Not to mention Gasincider's remark the other day that he was now "more convinced than ever". When asked to explain why - without giving any specifics away - he still refused. Couple that with numerous inside scoops he's given us previously that have all been untrue (see Gashead Gaz) post and I do have to wonder how good his source is. No offence intended, although I wouldn't blame you for taking some. I apologise - I just am losing all faith in this now. Well, actually, I've lost complete faith in these rumours. I don't doubt anyone has tried to mislead us and I don't doubt that everyone's heart was in the right place, but I think NH latest remarks make continuing to believe the rumours akin to believing the various greatest conspiracy theories of our time. I don't believe the official 9/11 story either mate. I just refuse to believe JTS would make this sh** up and with good reason his word is worth more to me than that of our current chairman. It may not be time to give up just yet.
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Post by RD on Sept 30, 2015 13:57:01 GMT
Think that's swayed me for now. I did believe the rumours and believed it could well be possible, even with the absence of any factual information (i.e. no smoke without fire). But I must say that I think a couple of people have been led down the garden path - either intentionally by the person/people that told them or by accident (e.g. their source took 2 and 2 and got 5). Gasincider's original post is odd now I think about it though. The opening post begins "I understand from Twitter". To me, that doesn't say "I'm ITK". The only reason that would make anyone more ITK than someone else if if they read a tweet that someone else hadn't seen - hardly ITK IMO. Further to that, there have been a couple of posts from myself (amongst others) asking for even the tiniest shred of additional evidence to back up continued belief in the rumour. Not to mention Gasincider's remark the other day that he was now "more convinced than ever". When asked to explain why - without giving any specifics away - he still refused. Couple that with numerous inside scoops he's given us previously that have all been untrue (see Gashead Gaz) post and I do have to wonder how good his source is. No offence intended, although I wouldn't blame you for taking some. I apologise - I just am losing all faith in this now. Well, actually, I've lost complete faith in these rumours. I don't doubt anyone has tried to mislead us and I don't doubt that everyone's heart was in the right place, but I think NH latest remarks make continuing to believe the rumours akin to believing the various greatest conspiracy theories of our time. I don't believe the official 9/11 story either mate. I just refuse to believe JTS would make this sh** up and with good reason his word is worth more to me than that of our current chairman. It may not be time to give up just yet. As you say, I don't believe JTS would make it up and I don't believe either Gasincider or JTS would ever post some completely made up BS to get a reaction/stir-the-post just to get us talking. However, I do now wonder about the integrity of their source (as we still have no idea who it is) or, at the very least, I'm starting to suspect that their source was originally lied to by their own source or took 2 and 2 and got 5.
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Post by gasincider on Sept 30, 2015 14:10:59 GMT
No offence taken Roverdrive.It's a sensible summation based on what is out there.
Whatever else NH is, he is no fool. That is why I can't explain his denial. As I say, I stand by my consortium posts, and it was NOT JTS's tweet I referred to.
Sometimes people know people on Twitter other than those on their following lists. It's also easy to have more than one account.
Suffice to say, I can't really add to what is out there. It's up to others to come out now. Keep the faith.
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