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Post by phillistine on Jul 22, 2014 18:58:49 GMT
... it has really hit me this evening just how far we have fallen .
Yeovil are 2 leagues above us and we are playing them as the underdogs.
I am not sure why it has taken this long but I really cant put into words how that makes me feel. This has to stop now and we have to claw our way back towards dignity !!
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 22, 2014 19:05:20 GMT
Rock on mate we will return to the promised land of league 2 (god how sad is that )
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Post by phillistine on Jul 22, 2014 19:14:13 GMT
I sit here and I cant believe how angry I feel that it has come to this . I am so angry that tinpot teams with no history and no support have passed us by.
I cant believe that people like Garry Johnson can make such condescending comments as "They will want to prove that they are better than us, and we've got to make sure we put them in their place".
Dont fool yourself Mr Johnson we dont want to put you in your place - we want to put Bristol Rovers back in the place that we should be - and if that means stepping on people like you then so be it.
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Post by holmesgas1 on Jul 22, 2014 19:25:51 GMT
I sit here and I cant believe how angry I feel that it has come to this . I am so angry that tinpot teams with no history and no support have passed us by. I cant believe that people like Garry Johnson can make such condescending comments as "They will want to prove that they are better than us, and we've got to make sure we put them in their place". Dont fool yourself Mr Johnson we dont want to put you in your place - we want to put Bristol Rovers back in the place that we should be - and if that means stepping on people like you then so be it. Here here to that #utg Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by seanclevedongas on Jul 22, 2014 19:40:32 GMT
15 years ago we were chasing a place in the championship, Yeovil Sat in the conference.......
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jul 22, 2014 19:45:02 GMT
And yet here we are. We're here for a reason. We will be here a lot longer if we keep thinking we are bigger than we are.
Johnson is still a ballbag regardless.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 19:46:18 GMT
15 years ago we were chasing a place in the championship, Yeovil Sat in the conference....... Quite impressive really, what we have achieved.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jul 22, 2014 19:49:34 GMT
15 years ago we were chasing a place in the championship, Yeovil Sat in the conference....... That was my first year as a season ticket holder. Those were the days.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 20:22:50 GMT
We were two leagues below them last season as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 22:11:36 GMT
Yeovil. Add Stevenage, Crawley, Fleetwood, DnR...
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Post by 1883 on Jul 23, 2014 21:28:31 GMT
Our time will come again, just dont know how long we will have to wait!!
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jul 24, 2014 6:54:13 GMT
Yeovil. Add Stevenage, Crawley, Fleetwood, DnR... All teams that we said "we should be beating the likes of these." That mentality kept Luton down here for 5 years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 7:36:17 GMT
Yeovil. Add Stevenage, Crawley, Fleetwood, DnR... All teams that we said "we should be beating the likes of these." That mentality kept Luton down here for 5 years. I think there is a line between a winning mentality and being prematurely big headed. We should be beating them imo, likewise we should be beating some of the names we are against next season. We have no given right, but come on. It's going to be pretty awful when we are giving it "The best team won" after our defeat to Alfreton!
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Post by RD on Jul 24, 2014 7:45:30 GMT
Spot on Si.
You have to have self belief of some kind if you are to succeed in sport. Simple as that.
As you say though, there is a difference between believing you can win and underestimating your opponents/not showing them respect.
We SHOULD be beating most teams down in this division. Will we? Who knows. Will it be tough? Of course it will - most teams will want to beat us as we ARE one of the bigger teams down here. But given our budget (even if it has been reduced, it's still going to be bigger than most) we SHOULD be expecting to beat most teams.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jul 24, 2014 7:57:46 GMT
All teams that we said "we should be beating the likes of these." That mentality kept Luton down here for 5 years. I think there is a line between a winning mentality and being prematurely big headed. We should be beating them imo, likewise we should be beating some of the names we are against next season. We have no given right, but come on. It's going to be pretty awful when we are giving it "The best team won" after our defeat to Alfreton! While I get where you're coming from, we have regularly been turned over by the likes of Morecambe but people come out with the same comments that we should be beating the likes of them. How many times have we been done over by teams just because they want it more?
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Post by phillistine on Jul 24, 2014 10:43:32 GMT
I think there is a line between a winning mentality and being prematurely big headed. We should be beating them imo, likewise we should be beating some of the names we are against next season. We have no given right, but come on. It's going to be pretty awful when we are giving it "The best team won" after our defeat to Alfreton! While I get where you're coming from, we have regularly been turned over by the likes of Morecambe but people come out with the same comments that we should be beating the likes of them. How many times have we been done over by teams just because they want it more? There is a difference between arrogance and the reality that we have a much bigger catchment area, better support - and one imagines greater income as a result. I fully accept that every so often a smaller team is going to put a winning team together on a limited budget but we have been surpassed by the likes of Newport, Cheltenham, Macclesfield, Mansfield, Daggenham and Redbridge, Yeovil, Cheltenham and you cant tell me that every one of those ( and there are obviously others) has performed beyond their expectation/ means. The reality is that we have consistently underperformed and a City the size of Bristol should have better football teams than it has. It is is not arraogance to suggest that we should be beating these sides and playing at a higher level than teams who often have players representing them whom we have rejected as not being good enough to wear our shirt. It is not arrogant to believe that we should be able to beat a team who has less than a thousand supporters due to the fact that they represent a borough with less than 10,000 inhabitants. It is not arrogant to say that we are not the " mighty Bristol Rovers" but we are Bristol Rovers which should be doing a hell of a lot better than it is !!
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Post by Hugo Admin on Jul 24, 2014 10:52:28 GMT
Youre right, it is about money not size of city as one doesn't equate to the other. Ticket sales are barely a maintenance income anymore. You only need to look at city to see that with higher league and higher gates they still need some merchant to water money in to it.
How you use the money from ticket sales is something but by no means the defining issue.
Its about having a wealthy backer which we don't have.
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Post by cookinongas on Jul 24, 2014 11:08:53 GMT
We are not going to have a "quiet" week this season. Every game we play will be that teams cup final. Its going to be really tough
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Post by aghast on Jul 24, 2014 20:53:57 GMT
We are not going to have a "quiet" week this season. Every game we play will be that teams cup final. Its going to be really tough I disagree partly with your reasoning, but not the outcome. The little clubs in the bottom third of the Conference will see as us big boys and will raise their game. The bigger clubs in the top third will look at us and our new squad and see nothing much to be afraid of at all. It's going to be really tough.
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Post by fanboy on Jul 25, 2014 0:44:55 GMT
We are not going to have a "quiet" week this season. Every game we play will be that teams cup final. Its going to be really tough I disagree partly with your reasoning, but not the outcome. The little clubs in the bottom third of the Conference will see as us big boys and will raise their game. The bigger clubs in the top third will look at us and our new squad and see nothing much to be afraid of at all. It's going to be really tough. Nothing to be afraid of? Come off it! Matty Taylor is a well respected striker who will score goals, Andy Monkhouse is a very well established football league winger who's also scored goals and he's bloody massive, Mansell has been promoted from this division before! It's ok to be negative but let's not be ridiculous!
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