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Post by CrispPusher on Jan 18, 2016 14:31:06 GMT
Not as good as Taylor or Gaffney and needs to play regular football at 21.
Darrell Clarke out!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 14:57:58 GMT
That is part 1 when that has been done there is a proposal to outlaw all loans Where did you hear the loan is for the season? Someone has said dc said its for a month. His agent said he wants it to be for the rest of the season
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Post by oddsongas on Jan 18, 2016 15:00:59 GMT
Where did you hear the loan is for the season? Someone has said dc said its for a month. His agent said he wants it to be for the rest of the season But it's not... It's a month
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 15:02:38 GMT
There is a point crying over spilt milk. Without that, these forums wouldn't exist. It's debating about ifs, buts and maybes. (Like you just did) There will be much talk about Ellis and his loan move over the next month. These moves can define a season. I don't think Ellis going on loan for a month will define anyone's season. So if MT and JE get injured what then? there is no recall in the first month of a loan
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 15:11:17 GMT
Good move for both parties however I do hope Ellis comes back and works hard to get into the first team here, he has the talent, just hope we can get the bets out of him otherwise someone else will. Can't really see where EH fits in at Rovers with Gaffney now the No 9 and Taylor/Easter covering the No 10 position, perhaps that's what he's realised! Although choosing to go to Hartlepool is bizarre, unless he's been told he's not guaranteed a new contract at Rovers. If you read DC s comments he said he didn't want him to go and wants him here long term,but at the same time he said that he,DC,selected Hartlepool as the club he would join,not Ellis,old boys net work?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 15:15:41 GMT
Not if he is deemed surplus to requirements,which is what will happen withEllis that's not a legal term. surely if the 'rules' are followed compensation would be possible. if he is on say £1,000 a week and we offer him £1,001, then compensation is presumably legally enforceable if he turns it down. High risk strategy maybe but it could happen. don't know why I am biting. this ITK stuff is tedious. You should know,but then I have only worked in pro football for best part of 50 years,player and scout,so what do I know?maybe I should write a blog in the local paper
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 18, 2016 15:40:39 GMT
I have only worked in pro football for best part of 50 years,player and scout,so what do I know? Didn't you say Gaffney was a reserve team panic signing?
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Post by nerdgas on Jan 18, 2016 15:45:26 GMT
Clueless. Fecking clueless. Our most natural finisher being loaned to a heap of donkey dollop. SACK THE BOARD......
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 18, 2016 15:51:18 GMT
Can't really see where EH fits in at Rovers with Gaffney now the No 9 and Taylor/Easter covering the No 10 position, perhaps that's what he's realised! Although choosing to go to Hartlepool is bizarre, unless he's been told he's not guaranteed a new contract at Rovers. If you read DC s comments he said he didn't want him to go and wants him here long term,but at the same time he said that he,DC,selected Hartlepool as the club he would join,not Ellis,old boys net work? As you've been in football for 50 years I assume you can answer that yourself? DC clearly thinks the move to the NE is in the player's and the club's interests, most of those decisions he's made have turned out to be the correct ones since our relegation. When it comes to a new contract does DC gamble and offer him another contract, which could well be £1,001 per week, so costing the club £50K if signs it, or just let him leave and potentially lose a decent transfer fee in years to come like we did with Zamora.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 15:58:09 GMT
I have only worked in pro football for best part of 50 years,player and scout,so what do I know? Didn't you say Gaffney was a reserve team panic signing? No just questioned why we were signing a reserve from a side below us
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 16:01:58 GMT
If you read DC s comments he said he didn't want him to go and wants him here long term,but at the same time he said that he,DC,selected Hartlepool as the club he would join,not Ellis,old boys net work? As you've been in football for 50 years I assume you can answer that yourself? DC clearly thinks the move to the NE is in the player's and the club's interests, most of those decisions he's made have turned out to be the correct ones since our relegation. When it comes to a new contract does DC gamble and offer him another contract, which could well be £1,001 per week, so costing the club £50K if signs it, or just let him leave and potentially lose a decent transfer fee in years to come like we did with Zamora. and we all know where Zamora played for the last decade or more,as for decisions can I mention Blissett,Nicholls,Ward, and several other loanees who never got on the pitch or even made the bench
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Post by oddsongas on Jan 18, 2016 16:11:48 GMT
Didn't you say Gaffney was a reserve team panic signing? No just questioned why we were signing a reserve from a side below us Then doesn't that prove that you don't know everything and we should trust DC every so often?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 16:27:46 GMT
As I had never watched Gaffney I was not in a position to say what sort of player he was but questioned why we were borrowing a player who couldn't get into a side in the lower reaches of the same division,rather than looking at players from a higher division,never claimed to know everything,only ome man can do that and the Romans did for him. It was an opinion pure and simple,and lets be fair DC doesnt get them all right
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 18, 2016 16:45:47 GMT
As you've been in football for 50 years I assume you can answer that yourself? DC clearly thinks the move to the NE is in the player's and the club's interests, most of those decisions he's made have turned out to be the correct ones since our relegation. When it comes to a new contract does DC gamble and offer him another contract, which could well be £1,001 per week, so costing the club £50K if signs it, or just let him leave and potentially lose a decent transfer fee in years to come like we did with Zamora. and we all know where Zamora played for the last decade or more,as for decisions can I mention Blissett,Nicholls,Ward, and several other loanees who never got on the pitch or even made the bench Blisset has plenty of time on the pitch he just wasn't up to league football. For every poor loan signing you could list a decent one, Gaffney, LDV, Dawson etc, etc.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jan 18, 2016 16:46:53 GMT
I don't think Ellis going on loan for a month will define anyone's season. So if MT and JE get injured what then? there is no recall in the first month of a loan then that combination may define the second half our our season
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Post by madridgas on Jan 18, 2016 18:23:03 GMT
If you read DC s comments he said he didn't want him to go and wants him here long term,but at the same time he said that he,DC,selected Hartlepool as the club he would join,not Ellis,old boys net work? As you've been in football for 50 years I assume you can answer that yourself? DC clearly thinks the move to the NE is in the player's and the club's interests, most of those decisions he's made have turned out to be the correct ones since our relegation. When it comes to a new contract does DC gamble and offer him another contract, which could well be £1,001 per week, so costing the club £50K if signs it, or just let him leave and potentially lose a decent transfer fee in years to come like we did with Zamora. Sorry Topper, but I think you've got it wrong with Zamora. I'd be delighted to earn as much off Ellis as him. We got £100k + 1/3 "on-sale" fee from Brighton...in total we earnt over £600k... bristolrovers.wikia.com/wiki/Bobby_Zamora
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 18, 2016 18:41:50 GMT
As you've been in football for 50 years I assume you can answer that yourself? DC clearly thinks the move to the NE is in the player's and the club's interests, most of those decisions he's made have turned out to be the correct ones since our relegation. When it comes to a new contract does DC gamble and offer him another contract, which could well be £1,001 per week, so costing the club £50K if signs it, or just let him leave and potentially lose a decent transfer fee in years to come like we did with Zamora. Sorry Topper, but I think you've got it wrong with Zamora. I'd be delighted to earn as much off Ellis as him. We got £100k + 1/3 "on-sale" fee from Brighton...in total we earnt over £600k... bristolrovers.wikia.com/wiki/Bobby_ZamoraWhat am I wrong about? We let him go for £100K plus the sell on clause when we could have kept him and eventually got 100% of the transfer fee?
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Post by madridgas on Jan 18, 2016 19:09:52 GMT
Sorry Topper, but I think you've got it wrong with Zamora. I'd be delighted to earn as much off Ellis as him. We got £100k + 1/3 "on-sale" fee from Brighton...in total we earnt over £600k... bristolrovers.wikia.com/wiki/Bobby_ZamoraWhat am I wrong about? We let him go for £100K plus the sell on clause when we could have kept him and eventually got 100% of the transfer fee? Depends how you read your post "just let him leave and potentially lose a decent transfer fee in years to come like we did with Zamora" implied to me that you thought Zamora was allowed to leave on a free
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Post by GasAttacK on Jan 18, 2016 19:26:19 GMT
It's a good opportunity for Ellis to hopefully get a run of starts and a few goals.
He wasn't likely to get that here at the moment so it makes sense to let him have a month on loan.
I can understand him being a bit frustrated and wanting more game time.
Hopefully he benefits from his spell away and comes back full of confidence and ready to play his part in our run in.
Hartlepool is a good move. They're not threat to us but play some teams that may have an eye on the play offs, so if he can help Hartlepool get a few results that could work in our favour
Obviously we lose a decent option from our bench for a month but we still have Bodin and Easter so no need to bring in a stop gap unless we pick up any injuries.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 18, 2016 19:55:53 GMT
What am I wrong about? We let him go for £100K plus the sell on clause when we could have kept him and eventually got 100% of the transfer fee? Depends how you read your post "just let him leave and potentially lose a decent transfer fee in years to come like we did with Zamora" implied to me that you thought Zamora was allowed to leave on a free Nope, I'd have said not get any transfer fee.
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