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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 18:12:08 GMT
If they'd overturned the verdict they would not have cut it a day short. No UWE for us! Or, you could turn that on it's head, and think that the Judges saw Justice Proudman's mistake as quickly as our own legal team did! Highly unlikely, I know! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 18:15:58 GMT
Surely after only two days of deliberations they won't need long to make a decision. I'm going for a result in early March, Feb the 1st on Monday so what's another 4-6 weeks!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 18:21:55 GMT
They haven't made any decision yet,that is what will take time,i was always of the thought why would it take three days to present the arguments.
But I'm like Manuel,i know nothing
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Post by cookinongas on Jan 27, 2016 18:29:02 GMT
Everyones assuming that cos the case finished a day early, its bad news. If thats the case (excuse the pun) would it take till march for a result??
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Post by Thatslife on Jan 27, 2016 18:31:22 GMT
If they'd overturned the verdict they would not have cut it a day short. No UWE for us! If the new evidence was accepted, and the decision was reversed, it may have been an open and shut case. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 18:31:50 GMT
Report from EppingGas on the other forum:-
"I was at the Court of Appeal this morning. 2 1/2 hours of debate in total. The 3 Judges ages must add up to 200 years+, so there is a huge amount of experience there. The Courts are a lot more impressive than where the original hearing was at Fetter Lane. This Appeal would not have been cheap. Nick and Tony looked apprehensive. A lot of what their QC (Woolacot) brought up didn't seem to add anything new to the proceedings. He's polished but came across as a slimeball. The Judges were asking a lot of questions. The contract is horribly drawn up and convoluted (as Justice Proudman said at the original hearing). I still think this could go in our favour as this is a sainsbury's 'standard' contract - and they know how to cynically exploit the loop-holes to walk away. I don't think the Judges looked particularly swayed by the Woolacot arguments.
They pretty much admitted they showed bad faith "after that period where they thought they had the right to withdraw from the contract". One of the key issues is WHEN exactly that point in time was. I only heard our QC Mathias for about 30-40 minutes. He's a little less polished - but definitely more passionate fighting our side of the debate. I liked the point where he raised his voice "sainsbury's desperately trying to extricate themselves from the contract". I won't add anything else about my take on the ins and outs of the legal debate as I'm sure the above copy&paste by PP covers all the arguments far better than I could.
At the start of the day I thought we had very little chance of success in this Appeal. Admittedly I only heard half a days worth of the 3 days that have been allotted, but I'm a little more convinced this isn't a totally lost cause. UTG."
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Post by mehewmagic on Jan 27, 2016 18:59:23 GMT
If they'd overturned the verdict they would not have cut it a day short. No UWE for us! absolute balderbash the law doesn't work like that |
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Post by mehewmagic on Jan 27, 2016 19:08:19 GMT
without going into all the legal arguments... For me, the best thing about this appeal is that 3 very experienced judges at pretty much the top of their profession will get to rule over it. Mrs Justice Proudman was just a sole judge and the wording she used for her judgement hardly inspired confidence. Cases have been over-turned before, and even then over-turned again at the Supreme Court. It is possible. The appeals court has to allow an appeal to the Supreme court, very rarely happens. Brilliant case here. www.communitycare.co.uk/2015/07/08/government-loses-supreme-court-case-determining-ordinary-residence-care-user/3 different courts. 3 different decisions. |
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Post by Severncider on Jan 27, 2016 19:17:58 GMT
It will be interesting to know if Sainsbury said anything other than, "the evidence speaks for itself".
If that is the case, I'd expect an early decision.
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Post by DTGas on Jan 27, 2016 19:27:00 GMT
It's been nice just concentrating on the football side of things. I hate to say it but I'm beginning to get my hopes up again  |
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Post by Parrot on Jan 27, 2016 20:17:06 GMT
Someone posted on OTIB that something big is gunna happen sooner rather than later ??
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 27, 2016 20:22:35 GMT
Someone posted on OTIB that something big is gunna happen sooner rather than later ?? Must be true then. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 20:42:23 GMT
Someone posted on OTIB that something big is gunna happen sooner rather than later ?? big and good news or big and bad news? (For us) |
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Post by Parrot on Jan 27, 2016 20:48:57 GMT
Someone posted on OTIB that something big is gunna happen sooner rather than later ?? big and good news or big and bad news? (For us) Good apparently |
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Post by asomodai on Jan 27, 2016 21:03:00 GMT
big and good news or big and bad news? (For us) Good apparently Eh. Good news to City fans or us? |
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Post by yategas78 on Jan 27, 2016 21:27:14 GMT
Why even look at tte Otis website?
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Post by yategas78 on Jan 27, 2016 21:28:00 GMT
Whoops I mean OTIB
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Post by yategas78 on Jan 27, 2016 21:29:24 GMT
Otis is a Elevator Company their always going up and down too!!
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Post by Parrot on Jan 27, 2016 21:34:16 GMT
Why even look at tte Otis website? Someone messaged me to say they seen the post , so had a look  |
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Post by Fat Albert on Jan 27, 2016 22:15:00 GMT
I am extremely sceptical as to whether anything good will come out of it. To be honest I'd take a decent bit of compo right now even if nowhere near the full whack. I hope I'm wrong but unfortunately in this world 99% of the time the big players get what they want, that's why they are at the top.
UTG
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