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UWE
Feb 22, 2016 9:59:08 GMT
Post by Topper Gas on Feb 22, 2016 9:59:08 GMT
I wonder how many pages this thread will reach before our new owners clarify what they actually intend doing with UWE site?
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UWE
Feb 22, 2016 10:32:36 GMT
Post by stuart1974 on Feb 22, 2016 10:32:36 GMT
Do you think that's because they've decided to not f@ck about and build a 36,000 seater straight away? afair the 27,000 expansion is available without more planning permission. But the big expansion, while integral to the design, needs different planning permission. Maybe he wants 27,001. Can't thnk why.
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UWE
Feb 22, 2016 10:36:09 GMT
Post by stuart1974 on Feb 22, 2016 10:36:09 GMT
Without upsetting posters on here, I fel quite sure our new owners have negotiating skills way above and beyond anyone on here and already having had several meetings with UWE would not have gone ahead with the purchase of BRFC if they thought UWE was not deliverable. They have also had a meeting with South Glos as well You've mentioned other building works many times before, do you or your sources suggest this is part of the Al-Qadi's plan or would it involve even more interested groups? I guess that more bodies would add weight to the renegotiations.
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UWE
Feb 22, 2016 10:38:02 GMT
Post by stuart1974 on Feb 22, 2016 10:38:02 GMT
I wonder how many pages this thread will reach before our new owners clarify what they actually intend doing with UWE site? I wouldn't wish time away but I would love to fast forward 6-12 months and see where we are. Maybe no further than now, maybe a transformation. I'd settle for somewhere between the two. edit: I am referring to the club, not the number of pages on this thread ;-)
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Feb 22, 2016 10:50:00 GMT
I wonder how many pages this thread will reach before our new owners clarify what they actually intend doing with UWE site? Judging by the "New Beginning" thread......
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 22, 2016 10:53:30 GMT
They have also had a meeting with South Glos as well You've mentioned other building works many times before, do you or your sources suggest this is part of the Al-Qadi's plan or would it involve even more interested groups? I guess that more bodies would add weight to the renegotiations. That i don't know my good friend. I do know that the extra "strips" of land which was marked as Hotel/retail use has been discussed Also another Principle Planning officer has now been Sub contracted in, not sure if this is to do with the UWE site or Cribbs Causeway expansion My friendly spy will let me know what he can, when he can, if you know what i mean
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UWE
Feb 22, 2016 10:54:40 GMT
Post by roverstillidie on Feb 22, 2016 10:54:40 GMT
I'm not 100% sure of what the UWE stadium will provide in terms of non match day facilities etc.
I believe there were plans to incorporate a certain amount of Student accommodation as part of the plan, but to make modern day stadia viable propositions,they have to be able to earn an income seven days a week, not just for 19 odd games of football per year.
It seems that Mr Al-Qadi is a regular visitor to Stamford Bridge, where one of the key factors is the Hotel attached to the Ground. Its been reported that the Al-Qadi family have interests in the Leisure industry, so I'd be surprised if they weren't planning on doing something along these lines at the UWE if it were to go ahead.
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UWE
Feb 22, 2016 10:57:45 GMT
Post by thegasman on Feb 22, 2016 10:57:45 GMT
These are my thoughts, and reflect no elses opinions:
1 Seems to me that perhaps the land is wanted to be purchased not leased. This would make business sense. 2 the local plan (South Gloucs) includes the need for a stadium. So why try to go elsewhere and bin all that goodwill? 3 UWE do not need a football stadium. So they can negotiate from a position of strength. 4 the local plan also has permission for a fairly large hotel. Perhaps WAQ being in tourism, may want to do this too? 5 UWE already have a massive conference centre, there is no need or requirement to develop another one. 6 Court case needs to be decided first. Maybe Shamesbury's will be held to account to pay for the deal, and therefore hold the ownership of the land at the Mem.
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UWE
Feb 22, 2016 13:41:49 GMT
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 22, 2016 13:41:49 GMT
These are my thoughts, and reflect no elses opinions: 1 Seems to me that perhaps the land is wanted to be purchased not leased. This would make business sense. 2 the local plan (South Gloucs) includes the need for a stadium. So why try to go elsewhere and bin all that goodwill? 3 UWE do not need a football stadium. So they can negotiate from a position of strength. 4 the local plan also has permission for a fairly large hotel. Perhaps WAQ being in tourism, may want to do this too? 5 UWE already have a massive conference centre, there is no need or requirement to develop another one. 6 Court case needs to be decided first. Maybe Shamesbury's will be held to account to pay for the deal, and therefore hold the ownership of the land at the Mem. 1, Agreed 2, Nothing stopping them looking elsewhere in S Glos if the UWE try and hold them to ransom, although that does seem unlikely 3, UWE apparently suggested the stadium idea to NH and whilst it doesn't have to be a football stadium who else is going to build them a stadium for free? 4, Al Qadi's own Four seasons in Amman which is one of the best hotels in that part of the world 5, The staduim conference centre will also be used for weddings, birthday parties etc not just business meetings, the ground could also inc other leisure facilities 6, Steve Harman suggested to 20men on Friday the court case wasn't relevent to the staduim development, I'm guessing NH has already conceded defeat as, if not, he'd surely have hung on another month or so for the verdict?
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UWE
Feb 22, 2016 14:09:31 GMT
Post by Severncider on Feb 22, 2016 14:09:31 GMT
These are my thoughts, and reflect no elses opinions: 1 Seems to me that perhaps the land is wanted to be purchased not leased. This would make business sense. 2 the local plan (South Gloucs) includes the need for a stadium. So why try to go elsewhere and bin all that goodwill? 3 UWE do not need a football stadium. So they can negotiate from a position of strength. 4 the local plan also has permission for a fairly large hotel. Perhaps WAQ being in tourism, may want to do this too? 5 UWE already have a massive conference centre, there is no need or requirement to develop another one. 6 Court case needs to be decided first. Maybe Shamesbury's will be held to account to pay for the deal, and therefore hold the ownership of the land at the Mem. 1, Agreed 2, Nothing stopping them looking elsewhere in S Glos if the UWE try and hold them to ransom, although that does seem unlikely 3, UWE apparently suggested the stadium idea to NH and whilst it doesn't have to be a football stadium who else is going to build them a stadium for free? 4, Al Qadi's own Four seasons in Amman which is one of the best hotels in that part of the world 5, The staduim conference centre will also be used for weddings, birthday parties etc not just business meetings, the ground could also inc other leisure facilities 6, Steve Harman suggested to 20men on Friday the court case wasn't relevent to the staduim development, I'm guessing NH has already conceded defeat as, if not, he'd surely have hung on another month or so for the verdict? Steve Harman stated the deal was "all the Directors stand down or there was no deal".
I'm afraid NH had nowhere to go, irrespective of the Sainsbury decision.
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UWE
Feb 22, 2016 15:54:51 GMT
Post by Topper Gas on Feb 22, 2016 15:54:51 GMT
1, Agreed 2, Nothing stopping them looking elsewhere in S Glos if the UWE try and hold them to ransom, although that does seem unlikely 3, UWE apparently suggested the stadium idea to NH and whilst it doesn't have to be a football stadium who else is going to build them a stadium for free? 4, Al Qadi's own Four seasons in Amman which is one of the best hotels in that part of the world 5, The staduim conference centre will also be used for weddings, birthday parties etc not just business meetings, the ground could also inc other leisure facilities 6, Steve Harman suggested to 20men on Friday the court case wasn't relevent to the staduim development, I'm guessing NH has already conceded defeat as, if not, he'd surely have hung on another month or so for the verdict? Steve Harman stated the deal was "all the Directors stand down or there was no deal".
I'm afraid NH had nowhere to go, irrespective of the Sainsbury decision.
That was once the deal was agreed in principle, I doubt NH would have agreed any deal if he thought he was going to win the Appeal?
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UWE
Feb 22, 2016 18:56:21 GMT
Post by Severncider on Feb 22, 2016 18:56:21 GMT
Steve Harman stated the deal was "all the Directors stand down or there was no deal".
I'm afraid NH had nowhere to go, irrespective of the Sainsbury decision.
That was once the deal was agreed in principle, I doubt NH would have agreed any deal if he thought he was going to win the Appeal? I do not think so, but it is all about opinions
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