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Post by spiess1 on Mar 24, 2016 19:44:00 GMT
And while you're at it Stevek, tell us how you would have got more than 15 points out of the last 5 matches; and what you would tell the squad in third place as to why you're discarding some of them.
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Post by Russgas on Mar 24, 2016 19:45:29 GMT
Hmmmm, an odd one. I wouldn't be surprised if we kept it the same. However we all know DC likes to keep things fresh. I think it's possible we see Lawrence come in for Bodin but to play on the left and get that tandem thing going with Browner. This would shift Montano to the right, which wouldn't be too bad because he's more of a head down and run winger. With JC recently being preferred at RB it's less important to have a ''link man' wide right. JC as happy to cross it from the 18 yard box as he is the byline. And might get a few 'passes back to him, once Monty hits a deadend. He will drop Montano for his slow coach mate. I don't often criticise DC but he didn't need to sign Lawrence. Trouble is with two games in four days he has to rest players,it's a squad game. If lawrence don't start tomorrow then he probably will do at Carlise.Leadbitter will probably make one start over the Easter games as will Montano,Easter,Bodin and ollie clark.
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Post by bs9trymer on Mar 24, 2016 19:54:26 GMT
I don't think that Rovers lost the games at Accrington,Portsmouth and Wycombe because of Lawrence,but because they were better teams (although Wycombe were cr@p imo)on the day. The 5 match winning run has come against lower teams ( did Lawrence play in 2 of these games ?).
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Post by stevek192 on Mar 24, 2016 20:53:02 GMT
Topper Gas "Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean you're right?" Doesn't mean I'm wrong or right. Just my opinion and yours happens to differ. Just because we differ it doesn't mean that you think more of DC than me. I am quite sure if you read all my reports that I have given DC plenty of praise as I have individual players. Yes I agree he clearly deserves praise for getting us where we are and that praise has been given. Does that mean that we all have to agree with everything he does? My match report will tell it how I see it and to be honest I don't give 1 iota what people think of what I write- that is my opinion and people can disagree with it which is what I thought was the whole idea of a forum...or do we all have to be rosy about everything? Whatever you may think tomorrow is a game which we should win but football is a funny old game and there could be many reasons why we fail to win. I will try to be fair in how I report the game and give praise where due and any shortcomings I see whether it be the individual players or the Manager. DC may not always be right-his treatment of Mildenhall comes to mind, a lot of people have said he was wrong but I don't know if he was right or wrong so have tried to be fair over the matter- he may have been a genius by giving Mildy the kick up the backside that made him get fitter and come back looking twice the keeper he was last time he was playing. Siess1 its very easy to say how would I have got more than 15 points off our last 15 games. Perhaps you could ask me how I would have got more than 1 point off the previous 12!! If you read my reports you will see that even when we win I will give my opinion of areas where Im of a different opinion and give DC praise for the way he has gone about it. At the end of the day I am a supporter the same as every other Gashead, I write the reports a) because I like doing them and b) to try to keep others who can't attend for one reason or another up to date. I never ask for people to agree with them as they are my opinion and I will stand by what I have written. I will not however say "I told you so" if anything I write is proved correct. I would love to write all positive things and DC to be 100% right and get us promoted. if he does do it,it will be absolutely the greatest achievement by a Rovers Manager for so many years but we all know that even if he does he wont get it right every week. Like all the players he will make mistakes , I as a supporter will make mistakes in my opinions- a lot more than our excellent Manager thankfully. Maybe Topper Gas and Spiess1 your opinions are correct but I would 100% agree that you are entitled to make them and I respect that. If we do lose tomorrow though perhaps it may be that DC does not deserve credit, the same as the players or maybe the same as we as supporters haven't done enough. I can assure you that for 90 minutes tomorrow I will be 100% behind the Manager, the backroom staff and every player on the pitch.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 24, 2016 22:03:17 GMT
Stevek we've all got opinions on the forum but on reflection don't you think saying "not good enough" & "ridiculous" is a bit OTT about a manager, who against all the odds, is on the verge of successive promotions on a shoe string of a budget? Megson & Francis Mk1 were brilliant managers, PT/LL fairly good together but no Rovers manager has ever pulled of such a feat, let alone one with a fairly restricted budget.
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Post by markczgas on Mar 24, 2016 22:08:48 GMT
Stevek we've all got opinions on the forum but on reflection don't you think saying "not good enough" & "ridiculous" is a bit OTT about a manager, who against all the odds, is on the verge of successive promotions on a shoe string of a budget? Megson & Francis Mk1 were brilliant managers, PT/LL fairly good together but no Rovers manager has ever pulled of such a feat, let alone one with a fairly restricted budget. Slow down !! Nothing has been pulled off yet - season has 9 more games to go. Stop having a go at fellow Gasheads. Go to the game and give your opinion afterwards if you like.
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Post by rambo on Mar 24, 2016 22:15:00 GMT
Topper Gas "Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean you're right?" Doesn't mean I'm wrong or right. Just my opinion and yours happens to differ. Just because we differ it doesn't mean that you think more of DC than me. I am quite sure if you read all my reports that I have given DC plenty of praise as I have individual players. Yes I agree he clearly deserves praise for getting us where we are and that praise has been given. Does that mean that we all have to agree with everything he does? My match report will tell it how I see it and to be honest I don't give 1 iota what people think of what I write- that is my opinion and people can disagree with it which is what I thought was the whole idea of a forum...or do we all have to be rosy about everything? Whatever you may think tomorrow is a game which we should win but football is a funny old game and there could be many reasons why we fail to win. I will try to be fair in how I report the game and give praise where due and any shortcomings I see whether it be the individual players or the Manager. DC may not always be right-his treatment of Mildenhall comes to mind, a lot of people have said he was wrong but I don't know if he was right or wrong so have tried to be fair over the matter- he may have been a genius by giving Mildy the kick up the backside that made him get fitter and come back looking twice the keeper he was last time he was playing. Siess1 its very easy to say how would I have got more than 15 points off our last 15 games. Perhaps you could ask me how I would have got more than 1 point off the previous 12!! If you read my reports you will see that even when we win I will give my opinion of areas where Im of a different opinion and give DC praise for the way he has gone about it. At the end of the day I am a supporter the same as every other Gashead, I write the reports a) because I like doing them and b) to try to keep others who can't attend for one reason or another up to date. I never ask for people to agree with them as they are my opinion and I will stand by what I have written. I will not however say "I told you so" if anything I write is proved correct. I would love to write all positive things and DC to be 100% right and get us promoted. if he does do it,it will be absolutely the greatest achievement by a Rovers Manager for so many years but we all know that even if he does he wont get it right every week. Like all the players he will make mistakes , I as a supporter will make mistakes in my opinions- a lot more than our excellent Manager thankfully. Maybe Topper Gas and Spiess1 your opinions are correct but I would 100% agree that you are entitled to make them and I respect that. If we do lose tomorrow though perhaps it may be that DC does not deserve credit, the same as the players or maybe the same as we as supporters haven't done enough. I can assure you that for 90 minutes tomorrow I will be 100% behind the Manager, the backroom staff and every player on the pitch. Of course you're entitled to an opinion. If you'd started a thread stating your thoughts on strengthening the squad then it would've probably gone down fine with everyone as that's your opinion. But to be so passive aggressive and call the decision ridiculous is what has riled a few. That's all.
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Post by lincsblue on Mar 25, 2016 2:48:41 GMT
Him returning not good enough to not sign somebody to help see us through to the conclusionj. Ridiculous ,DC has had plenty of time to find someone available who would up our chances of staying in contention for automatics. You need a bit more than team spirit to see us through and if signing one or two more is enough to lose the "team spirit" then is the team spirit really as good as we think. That's right...because all the really good players are all available on loan deals aren't they......Oh, hang on...
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Post by lincsblue on Mar 25, 2016 2:51:25 GMT
Stevek we've all got opinions on the forum but on reflection don't you think saying "not good enough" & "ridiculous" is a bit OTT about a manager, who against all the odds, is on the verge of successive promotions on a shoe string of a budget? Megson & Francis Mk1 were brilliant managers, PT/LL fairly good together but no Rovers manager has ever pulled of such a feat, let alone one with a fairly restricted budget. Slow down !! Nothing has been pulled off yet - season has 9 more games to go. Stop having a go at fellow Gasheads. Go to the game and give your opinion afterwards if you like. How about YOU slow down??
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Post by seanclevedongas on Mar 25, 2016 5:34:53 GMT
When Lawrence arrived he wasn't match fit and yes he struggled with the pace of the game for his 1st couple. But as others have said he gave a better performance against Wycsum and better again against Hartlepool as he got towards full match fitness. I just hope his core fitness is now at a higher level than when he first arrived as we can't afford to carry him again for a couple of games while he gets up to speed
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Post by Langford Gas on Mar 25, 2016 6:01:12 GMT
Just because we are third in the League (against most of the odds) does not mean we have to trust DC on everything he does and not give our opinion. The problem is of course that if we win everyone will say I told you so and if we lose then people will say he gets most decisions right. If we lose I will not be saying I told you so as I will be disappointed because of course I want Darrell to get it right and I can assure you all I will be 100% behind him. For me it is not just about tomorrow but the next nine games and I just feel that we needed a bit more quality in CM and on the right. Its just an opinion having watched all the games this season and not being convinced against the better sides that we have looked good enough so IMO with the present players it is a case of having to go up automatically and I say this because thankfully most of our games left are against lesser teams. I felt that hopefully with a bit of money behind us now we could have gone out and brought a couple in to show to the other contenders hat we mean business. Forgive me for having an opinion that is probably against the majority. I think thats is more the reason why he hasn't because,even though it would show outsiders our intentions which is no bad thing, but it also gives a message to the squad we have and that could be damaging to morale.
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Post by phillistine on Mar 25, 2016 6:58:11 GMT
When Lawrence arrived he wasn't match fit and yes he struggled with the pace of the game for his 1st couple. But as others have said he gave a better performance against Wycsum and better again against Hartlepool as he got towards full match fitness. I just hope his core fitness is now at a higher level than when he first arrived as we can't afford to carry him again for a couple of games while he gets up to speed People keep saying he wasn't match fit but he played nearly 20 games for th Shrews this season including the game less than 3 days before he joined us The Shrews forum suggested that whilst he could still hack it playing on the wing he was no longer effective as a central midfield player and this surely bears out what we saw..he played better when he was wide and was found wanting in the middle
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Post by seanclevedongas on Mar 25, 2016 7:16:05 GMT
Both Lawrence and DC stated in interviews that he was struggling for fitness when he first arrived but I concede the Shrews fans probably know better (tongue firmly in cheek)
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Post by RD on Mar 25, 2016 7:37:43 GMT
Him returning not good enough to not sign somebody to help see us through to the conclusionj. Ridiculous ,DC has had plenty of time to find someone available who would up our chances of staying in contention for automatics. You need a bit more than team spirit to see us through and if signing one or two more is enough to lose the "team spirit" then is the team spirit really as good as we think. Bizarre post. It's got us this far so why not have faith? DC said he was offered loads of youth team players but they wouldn't really add anything and I trust him. He also said one or two injuries weren't as bad as first feared. He and the team have taken us from Non-league to 3rd in L2 with 9 games to go. Have a bit of faith in them!
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Post by RD on Mar 25, 2016 7:39:18 GMT
Hmmmm, an odd one. I wouldn't be surprised if we kept it the same. However we all know DC likes to keep things fresh. I think it's possible we see Lawrence come in for Bodin but to play on the left and get that tandem thing going with Browner. This would shift Montano to the right, which wouldn't be too bad because he's more of a head down and run winger. With JC recently being preferred at RB it's less important to have a ''link man' wide right. JC as happy to cross it from the 18 yard box as he is the byline. And might get a few 'passes back to him, once Monty hits a deadend. He will drop Montano for his slow coach mate. I don't often criticise DC but he didn't need to sign Lawrence. This "his mates" thing you keep banging on about is utterly pathetic. Give it a rest.
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Post by phillistine on Mar 25, 2016 8:08:32 GMT
Both Lawrence and DC stated in interviews that he was struggling for fitness when he first arrived but I concede the Shrews fans probably know better (tongue firmly in cheek) DC would not have seen him play much recently but was probably making comments based upon what Lawrence told him. He may have said that he lacked match fitness but he had been playing The Shrews fans comments had nothing to do with his fitness but if they have seen him over the course of a couple of seasons then yes I suspect they do know. (Tongue not in cheek)
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Post by stigofthegas on Mar 25, 2016 8:56:20 GMT
Him returning not good enough to not sign somebody to help see us through to the conclusionj. Ridiculous ,DC has had plenty of time to find someone available who would up our chances of staying in contention for automatics. You need a bit more than team spirit to see us through and if signing one or two more is enough to lose the "team spirit" then is the team spirit really as good as we think. I, like a few others, was really surprised by your post Steve. It's really rare that I disagree with you but on this occasion I disagree entirely. I think the use of the words "not good enough" and "ridiculous" are strong words. Some people have reacted to that rather than your underlying opinion. Ignoring the choice of words and in response to your opinion I have been really impressed with DC since the takeover. I think a weak manager could easily have splashed the cash, got two or three star signings in and consequently lost the personal trust of some of his squad. Instead he trusted his players, adopted his siege-mentality, drew them in closer and has got the best out of them. His philosophy is that the smooth running of the machine is more important than any of the individual parts. We all saw how Lawrence' arrival just knocked us off our stride. DC isn't stupid, he saw that and decided to stick with what he had. That was brave. I guess our position at the end of the season will determine whether it was "reficulous" or genius. At the moment I'm leaning towards the latter. Five straight wins is exceptional.
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Post by stevek192 on Mar 25, 2016 9:04:58 GMT
In all I must say that peoples reaction to my posts has surprised me as one hell of a lot have said in the last month we need this or we need that in the transfer window and that was BEFORE we knew we would be without Harrison, Lockyer and McBurnie for the two Easter games and before we lost Mansell to injury. However I must say it is good to see the faith that everybody has in the Managers decision making and I look forward to seeing just who is available to fill the squad today and Monday. I can assure everybody that I am completely behind the club and looking forward to the next two games but its definitely a case of one game at a time. Great post Stigofthegas and many of your points I agree with entirely. Yes I think I may have used the wrong words in my outburst and for that I apologise. UTG
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 25, 2016 9:23:26 GMT
In all I must say that peoples reaction to my posts has surprised me as one hell of a lot have said in the last month we need this or we need that in the transfer window and that was BEFORE we knew we would be without Harrison, Lockyer and McBurnie for the two Easter games and before we lost Mansell to injury. However I must say it is good to see the faith that everybody has in the Managers decision making and I look forward to seeing just who is available to fill the squad today and Monday. I can assure everybody that I am completely behind the club and looking forward to the next two games but its definitely a case of one game at a time. Great post Stigofthegas and many of your points I agree with entirely. Yes I think I may have used the wrong words in my outburst and for that I apologise. UTG The trouble is you're a respected voice on the forums so you can't really get away with the sort of crap most of us can.
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Post by oddsongas on Mar 25, 2016 9:57:22 GMT
In all I must say that peoples reaction to my posts has surprised me as one hell of a lot have said in the last month we need this or we need that in the transfer window and that was BEFORE we knew we would be without Harrison, Lockyer and McBurnie for the two Easter games and before we lost Mansell to injury. However I must say it is good to see the faith that everybody has in the Managers decision making and I look forward to seeing just who is available to fill the squad today and Monday. I can assure everybody that I am completely behind the club and looking forward to the next two games but its definitely a case of one game at a time. Great post Stigofthegas and many of your points I agree with entirely. Yes I think I may have used the wrong words in my outburst and for that I apologise. UTG I think that was the case, who wouldn't like more quality in their side, but I think it touched a nerve when words such as ridiculous was used! You talk a lot of sense, so it was a bit out of the blue the way it came across.
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