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Post by gregsy on May 21, 2016 10:32:08 GMT
How about an open bus tour for Jim Chapple, Nick Higgs, Barry Bradshaw and the supporters directors. After all they are the reasons for everything good that has happened to our club. They can parade the 2015 accounts on a giant billboard along with the watertight sainsburys contract I think a de-hooded citroen 2cv would be more apt....
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Post by RD on May 21, 2016 10:33:44 GMT
What Mr Chappell needs to realise is that he is effectively a voice for "us".
Once again, his comments do not represent my - or the vast majority of fans views - and I'd rather he didn't run his mouth off in the nature he has.
Time to step down in my opinion. Dinsdale sums it up perfectly - if a little too harshly for some.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 10:46:32 GMT
How about an open bus tour for Jim Chapple, Nick Higgs, Barry Bradshaw and the supporters directors. After all they are the reasons for everything good that has happened to our club. They can parade the 2015 accounts on a giant billboard along with the watertight sainsburys contract Only if we can have KS on the bus with a few select tongues up his jacksy. That's a nice thought.
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 21, 2016 10:52:11 GMT
Just had a quick thought on this and i do wonder if he feels a bit put out.
Are the owners going to take a lot of the SC work in house and be done by paid people ??
Coach Travel for away games come to mind with the potential for more profit etc
Maybe the family want even more control over all activities to do with the club
Just a thought
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Post by peterparker on May 21, 2016 11:05:49 GMT
Just had a quick thought on this and i do wonder if he feels a bit put out. Are the owners going to take a lot of the SC work in house and be done by paid people ?? Coach Travel for away games come to mind with the potential for more profit etc comes to mind Maybe the family want even more control over all activities to do with the club Just a thought That would be a good thing you would think. Whatever happens going forward we have a new way and the SC will have to re-evaluate what it is
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Post by Topper Gas on May 21, 2016 11:15:04 GMT
I doubt it's a good thing if your own role is potentially being sidelined? However, I don't think the end of season newsletter, after particularly such a good end to the season, is the place to voice your concerns?
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 11:15:46 GMT
Promotion as champions or runners up? Open top bus tour Promotion as playoff winners (there's a cup) I open top bus tour. Promotion in third place? I no open top bus tour as it looks a bit desperate. Them's the rules. Basically when w got to the play offs we finished 7th and 2nd. 6th and second,jeeze enough to make a fan swear
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Post by justin blue on May 21, 2016 11:28:46 GMT
Having read Jim Chapple's comments I really think the abuse he has been subjected to on this thread is not warranted. He has merely stated an oppinion that he feels there should have been a bus tour to reward supporters for their part in the teams promotion. I enjoyed the unique celebrations on Gloucester Road, but I can see they might have been a bit raucous for families and young supporters. How does anybody on here know that his comments do not reflect comments that have been made to him as BRSC chairman.
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Post by piratesfchhh on May 21, 2016 11:28:47 GMT
Certainly doesn't represent my views. The days under Higgs are better left in the past, I have no interest in his self importance.
Change and being run competently is something Mr C isn't used to. Maybe a loss of feeling in control with his mates has made him uncomfortable for the first time.
It feels like he is using the volunteers as a bargaining tool for an argument he is trying to stir...
Accept the change, get on board and do your job to find out where stand as we as fans / what we can do to support our club progress. If not, it's time to step down and let someone else have a go I'm afraid.
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Post by dinsdale on May 21, 2016 11:48:56 GMT
People who need to swear to get a point over are often lacking in vocabulary. I am not saying that you are, but was there a need for that language at someone who has probably done a lot more for the club than you have, or ever will do.? I also thought it was strange that there wasn't a bus tour , after all going up automatically is a far better result than going up through the playoffs. So are you now going to swear at me? You also you might also think of the youngsters that come on here and read comments like yours. Just a thought To be fair to Dinsdale this appeared around 11pm during a pretty quiet time on here so it certainly put a cat amongst the pigeons. The more you read it imo it seems like there are veiled digs at various things throughout from a man who said nothing to challenge the previous regime when the club was clearly heading over the edge of a cliff. I apologise for my colourful language and you are right in that regard. For me BRSC are a clique from a certain era of the club history whose actions in refusing to hold the board to account led to us almost going under. Yes the club will change under new ownership but thank god for that. They make me very angry when we have such fantastic fans with clever and new ideas yet BRSC do 70's era events of no relevance to younger fans. Yes he did and will do more then me but hey what I wouldn't give to have that amount of spare time on my hands. Just because people volunteer doesn't give them the rights to mislead the board about the views of the fans or forget that they are there to support to club not be sympathisers and excusers for incompetence. As I said bus tour, wonga loan and Sainsburys contract on a billboard !!! That's what they have done for us. I for one think we have a fantastic future and the less BRSC have to do with it the better.
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Post by gregsy on May 21, 2016 11:53:56 GMT
I quite like the idea of chicken in a basket with a bit of cabaret....
now excuse me while i get my 'old hat'....
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Post by Strange Gas on May 21, 2016 11:55:52 GMT
Maybe now is a good time for BRSC to consider whats its role should be going forward given changes at the club. Had a quick look at its stated objectives (pasted below), and I would def agree with Henbury that travel and indeed social events is likely to be something the club might be keen to do more of as a vital income stream. It would be a shame if the club lost the ability to harness the good work of volunteers, but I suspect the days of needing to "raise the roof" are gone for now and I wonder if the "mouthpiece for the fans" role is less needed in the modern era of communications.
2.1 To create and develop active support and lively interest in the activities of Bristol Rovers Football Club (“BRFC” and encompassing any future name changes of the Company), Bristol Rovers (1883) Limited or any subsidiaries, and to enable BRSC members to obtain the maximum pleasure from such support and interest. 2.2 To arrange transport to away matches for BRSC members. 2.3 To cater for the social interests of BRSC members. 2.4 To encourage a high standard of sportsmanship and understanding of Association Football. 2.5 To give BRSC members a formal medium of approach to the BRFC Directorate via the BRSC Executive Committee and the elected Director(s). 2.6 To render assistance and support to BRFC in particular and football in general by every possible means. 2.7 To support and develop further projects usually associated with Supporters Clubs such as the BRSC members agree upon. 2.8 The provision and maintenance of club premises at 199 Two Mile Hill Road, Kingswood, Bristol and any further premises acquired by BRSC. 2.9 To operate BRSC on a professional basis including its activities and its assets in accordance with the wishes of its members. 2.10 To administer the BRSC Share Scheme (“BRSCSS”) and to endeavour to ensure that in all things BRSC, BRSCSS and BRFC act in accordance with the Subscription Agreement dated 15th November 2003 and any future agreed changes thereto.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on May 21, 2016 11:57:15 GMT
Well I'm glad the SC are piping up now, when we REALLY have something to moan about. Top work everyone. There are and always will be questions that need answers and the SC should be one of the groups that should ask them. They didn't when it really mattered apparently. When I have more time in will edit this post to include the questions I think should be asked.
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Post by Strange Gas on May 21, 2016 12:02:03 GMT
To be fair to Dinsdale this appeared around 11pm during a pretty quiet time on here so it certainly put a cat amongst the pigeons. The more you read it imo it seems like there are veiled digs at various things throughout from a man who said nothing to challenge the previous regime when the club was clearly heading over the edge of a cliff. I apologise for my colourful language and you are right in that regard. For me BRSC are a clique from a certain era of the club history whose actions in refusing to hold the board to account led to us almost going under. Yes the club will change under new ownership but thank god for that. They make me very angry when we have such fantastic fans with clever and new ideas yet BRSC do 70's era events of no relevance to younger fans. Yes he did and will do more then me but hey what I wouldn't give to have that amount of spare time on my hands. Just because people volunteer doesn't give them the rights to mislead the board about the views of the fans or forget that they are there to support to club not be sympathisers and excusers for incompetence. As I said bus tour, wonga loan and Sainsburys contract on a billboard !!! That's what they have done for us. I for one think we have a fantastic future and the less BRSC have to do with it the better. Love the "BRSC do 70's era events of no relevance to younger fans" . . . or even some older ones!! Read the objects which highlight it is there to look after its members, kind of fair enough, but shouldn't try and claim it represents the views of all 11,000+ that were there to see us get promoted, or indeed the ones that weren't. Time to evolve or do one
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Post by dinsdale on May 21, 2016 12:18:01 GMT
I quite like the idea of chicken in a basket with a bit of cabaret.... now excuse me while i get my 'old hat'.... Be good to fuse that with something fresh. We need new blood in the middle of the official fans groups rather then at present on the outside flogging great products independently. Look at gascast, that's exactly what a 21st century supporters club should be doing.
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Post by gregsy on May 21, 2016 12:21:57 GMT
I quite like the idea of chicken in a basket with a bit of cabaret.... now excuse me while i get my 'old hat'.... Be good to fuse that with something fresh. We need new blood in the middle of the official fans groups rather then at present on the outside flogging great products independently. Look at gascast, that's exactly what a 21st century supporters club should be doing. I agree entirely with you mate, I was only joking. I've supported the sc (by being a member) for years but for me it's only ever been a bit of paper that gets you right of passage into the Bristol room before matchdays, other than that it's never felt like being part of a 'club'....
however the ffsc meet ups are the top bollards....
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Post by justin blue on May 21, 2016 12:39:47 GMT
Certainly doesn't represent my views. The days under Higgs are better left in the past, I have no interest in his self importance. Change and being run competently is something Mr C isn't used to. Maybe a loss of feeling in control with his mates has made him uncomfortable for the first time. It feels like he is using the volunteers as a bargaining tool for an argument he is trying to stir... Accept the change, get on board and do your job to find out where stand as we as fans / what we can do to support our club progress. If not, it's time to step down and let someone else have a go I'm afraid. And you are entitled to your views/oppinion. I don't know if you have communicated this to Mr C or if you are a BRSC member. I actually agree with not having a bus tour especially after the damaging and false empty streets headlines of last year, but I still think a guy should be able to express an oppinion as you have. I am over the moon about events at this club on and off the field and I believe the future is bright. The success we have achieved so far though is mainly down to DC and his squad and although we all believe the new dawn is round the corner, nothing is guaranteed. Some of the comments on here are almost dictatorial with no tolerance of opposing views. I just hope we are all right.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 21, 2016 12:42:33 GMT
Having read Jim Chapple's comments I really think the abuse he has been subjected to on this thread is not warranted. He has merely stated an oppinion that he feels there should have been a bus tour to reward supporters for their part in the teams promotion. I enjoyed the unique celebrations on Gloucester Road, but I can see they might have been a bit raucous for families and young supporters. How does anybody on here know that his comments do not reflect comments that have been made to him as BRSC chairman. But did he really need to say all this, particularly the nonsense about it being NH team? As mayhem broke out on the pitch and in every part of the stadium I met up with former Chairman Nick Higgs who told me how proud he felt having signed all the players involved on the day and how he still considered it to be his team.While this is true and justifiable, the real credit must go to Darrell Clarke and his staff who have taken a collection of players from non-League to a second consecutive promotion – a simply fantastic achievement. All the more disappointing then to learn on the Monday after the match that there was to be no open-top bus tour or any other type of celebration and suddenly the whole thing became just a bit of an anti-climax. I contacted Chairman Steve Hamer to query this and ask for it to be reconsidered but I was told that we hadn’t won anything yet and we would have a tour when Rovers win the League One title. I see the point but every other Rovers promotion has been followed by a bus tour of the city and the last two were only via play-offs and not automatically achieved – the latter of course allowing an extra three weeks to arrange everything thus negating the point made in the original press release that the club was ‘preparing for life in League One’. Considering the President’s often commented remarks that the fans are such a vital part of the club it seems strange that such an opportunity to involve everyone in a fully justified celebration has not been taken up. Anyone who turned out last season to witness the bus tour through the streets of East Bristol and/or then came to the stadium will remember what a great day it was with normal roles reversed and the players being paraded up in the West Stand to receive their promotion medals in front of around 5,000 fans on the pitch below to watch the ‘ceremony’. Players, management, backroom staff, volunteers and fans joined together in celebration – what this club has always been about. It strikes me that the players must be due promotion medals – so how will they now receive them, by post? A great opportunity lost and the Club could have benefited from bar and food sales as last year. Disappointing for all those who were unable to party at the final whistle due to work or whatever. So, no official celebration and we move on. This has funded the purchase of a significant shareholding in the Football Club and that in turn retains two elected ordinary supporters on the Board when all the other shareholders had to sell out to the Al-Qadi family. I want the scheme to continue in future; although I realise that the members have not received very much in return. It will be good if we can purchase the full 600,000 shares we are entitled to under the agreement, (circa 470,000 = 5.75% purchased to date), because we never know what might happen to the club in the future.
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Post by stevek192 on May 21, 2016 12:47:58 GMT
Perhaps Mr Chappell should find out the views of supporters and voice them rather than his view or the view of a few of his old cronies. Our club at last appears to have at least a chance of moving in the right direction. I too remember Mr Chappells "supporters don't want to go to the Derby" and this is about on par with that in its usefulness. Perhaps Mr Chappell preferred a club that was going nowhere apart from oblivion or a rejuvenated Santa's Groto. I thought a Supporters Club was exactly what it suggests- Support. You only had to look around at the home games since the takeover to see a complete change in the majority of Supporters and what a little bit of hope does. I have never been a supporter of factions within the club because at the end of the day all they really do is form a split and the more factions there are the more fragmented the club becomes as a whole. To me it doesn't matter whether you are a member of the SC or not-you are a BRISTOL ROVERS Supporter. The Supporters Club should be doing exactly that-Supporting the club in any way it can instead of back stabbing and petty quarrels which really sums up the Nick Higgs tenancy. It is time for everybody to play their part and unite as one behind the club and give the New owners the time and chance to turn this club around as one united force. Remember as well that with the Sabadell tour the players really only have a very short time in which to have their holidays, the management and Board the same. there again if a bloody open bus tour is the only thing Mr Chappell can find to go on about then we are indeed moving in the right direction!!
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Post by newmarketgas on May 21, 2016 12:48:20 GMT
Both accurate statements, I can't see a problem with either. Opinions I guess. In answer to topper, forgot the quote button.
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