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Post by Henbury Gas on Jun 9, 2016 11:54:48 GMT
Have to say, I am not familiar with any 10 year old choirboy's tackle. lol
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 9, 2016 12:10:40 GMT
Right. Let's get something straight re Jake and Liam L. Jake gosling is 22. He has been played mainly as a winger (which I don't feel is his ideal position, I see him as a creative midfielder or hole type player). He looks very neat and tidy with the ball and played at Wembley. He's still learning and DC brought him off the bench to play his part in one of the most crucial games as a football club we have had, of all time. In this match he looked pretty good and nutmegged a player to play in Easter for that pass to Matt T. DC is no fool and he has stuck with JG for a reason. Just because he doesn't streak past his full back at 100mph doesn't make him a bad player, I think his future is more central though. LL is a massively experienced player who has done a lot in football, can probably pursuade better young players to join us and adds to the team tactics and gives advice to younger players. LL has lots of class but no pace and I think his legs have gone really, but he is massively useful against slower teams and the last 15 mins - like Walters did for us for 83 games pretty well. I'm no expert but there is more to a football squad than pitch ability and whatever career you are in, I bet you were greatly helped by older hands who explained and helped you learn the job. I bet Ollie Clarke etc are pleased to have some experience, not just from lines, Mansell, mild, m m c, but a player who went even further in the game. I'm glad the bit where you compared Lawrence to Walters it was at the end otherwise I wouldn't have been able to read your post through the tears of laughter. Walters could probably play now and still be more effective!
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 9, 2016 13:11:56 GMT
Right. Let's get something straight re Jake and Liam L. Jake gosling is 22. He has been played mainly as a winger (which I don't feel is his ideal position, I see him as a creative midfielder or hole type player). He looks very neat and tidy with the ball and played at Wembley. He's still learning and DC brought him off the bench to play his part in one of the most crucial games as a football club we have had, of all time. In this match he looked pretty good and nutmegged a player to play in Easter for that pass to Matt T. DC is no fool and he has stuck with JG for a reason. Just because he doesn't streak past his full back at 100mph doesn't make him a bad player, I think his future is more central though. LL is a massively experienced player who has done a lot in football, can probably pursuade better young players to join us and adds to the team tactics and gives advice to younger players. LL has lots of class but no pace and I think his legs have gone really, but he is massively useful against slower teams and the last 15 mins - like Walters did for us for 83 games pretty well. I'm no expert but there is more to a football squad than pitch ability and whatever career you are in, I bet you were greatly helped by older hands who explained and helped you learn the job. I bet Ollie Clarke etc are pleased to have some experience, not just from lines, Mansell, mild, m m c, but a player who went even further in the game. I'm glad the bit where you compared Lawrence to Walters it was at the end otherwise I wouldn't have been able to read your post through the tears of laughter. Walters could probably play now and still be more effective! LOL did the OP actually ever watch Wally play as it's a complete insult to him to compare LL to him in any way, Wally one of all time favorite players but LL must rank at the moment as one of the worse experienced players I've seen in a Rovers shirt.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 17:42:26 GMT
I'm glad the bit where you compared Lawrence to Walters it was at the end otherwise I wouldn't have been able to read your post through the tears of laughter. Walters could probably play now and still be more effective! LOL did the OP actually ever watch Wally play as it's a complete insult to him to compare LL to him in any way, Wally one of all time favorite players but LL must rank at the moment as one of the worse experienced players I've seen in a Rovers shirt. He's comparable in as much as he's an old player who cannot handle much pitch time, and has played at a higher level.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 9, 2016 18:03:23 GMT
LOL did the OP actually ever watch Wally play as it's a complete insult to him to compare LL to him in any way, Wally one of all time favorite players but LL must rank at the moment as one of the worse experienced players I've seen in a Rovers shirt. He's comparable in as much as he's an old player who cannot handle much pitch time, and has played at a higher level. 82 appearances (14 goals) over 3 seasons. He was almost unplayable at times particularly in his first season with us despite having lost a lot of pace. His contribution to games was consistent and his quality shone through. I'm sure other more knowledgeable people here will correct me but I cannot remember a better "experienced" player who dropped down to play for us.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 18:21:20 GMT
He's comparable in as much as he's an old player who cannot handle much pitch time, and has played at a higher level. 82 appearances (14 goals) over 3 seasons. He was almost unplayable at times particularly in his first season with us despite having lost a lot of pace. His contribution to games was consistent and his quality shone through. I'm sure other more knowledgeable people here will correct me but I cannot remember a better "experienced" player who dropped down to play for us. I remember, I was there. I was going every week Holloway era and I remember how awesome he was. Indeed it is not an accurate comparison as a footballer and Walters is miles ahead in terms of how good he is. I wasn't comparing their talents as footballers, more the role in the squad. However, LL is not as bad as fans have suggested. I've seen little bits of class here and there. DC wants him so I will side with my mate DC and we will while away our correct assessment over a brandy at some point.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jun 9, 2016 18:24:56 GMT
Right. Let's get something straight re Jake and Liam L. Jake gosling is 22. He has been played mainly as a winger (which I don't feel is his ideal position, I see him as a creative midfielder or hole type player). He looks very neat and tidy with the ball and played at Wembley. He's still learning and DC brought him off the bench to play his part in one of the most crucial games as a football club we have had, of all time. In this match he looked pretty good and nutmegged a player to play in Easter for that pass to Matt T. DC is no fool and he has stuck with JG for a reason. Just because he doesn't streak past his full back at 100mph doesn't make him a bad player, I think his future is more central though. LL is a massively experienced player who has done a lot in football, can probably pursuade better young players to join us and adds to the team tactics and gives advice to younger players. LL has lots of class but no pace and I think his legs have gone really, but he is massively useful against slower teams and the last 15 mins - like Walters did for us for 83 games pretty well. I'm no expert but there is more to a football squad than pitch ability and whatever career you are in, I bet you were greatly helped by older hands who explained and helped you learn the job. I bet Ollie Clarke etc are pleased to have some experience, not just from lines, Mansell, mild, m m c, but a player who went even further in the game. I'm glad the bit where you compared Lawrence to Walters it was at the end otherwise I wouldn't have been able to read your post through the tears of laughter. Walters could probably play now and still be more effective! I think that's a bit harsh. He's clearly seen better days but he also did some good things imo and was one of the players who changed the game away at Carlisle. I know we still lost that game but played them off the park that day and we're undone by two balls over the top. He's just not a good option in the middle of a 442.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 18:27:50 GMT
Copies from texts:
DC Gregory those guys are wrong. You're a constant source of knowledge and inspiration. We read the forum thumbs up to you and boo sucks to the haters.
Gregory - cheers
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 9, 2016 19:15:26 GMT
Does DC really still want him or lack most of us though he'd do a decent job but was either unfit or not interested? If DC thought his experienced was of a great benefit why did he drop from the match day squad for Gosling towards the end of the season. I just hope LL does the decent thing and looks for a contract at a club lower down the league pyramid, unless he can somehow get fitter over the summer but you sense times caught up with him, like it did with Stu Campbell.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 20:19:38 GMT
DC picks these lads to play and he is a professional football manager. WTFeck do you do for a living? Well I am a locksmith, but I did teach in London for 22 years and during that time ran a few school footy teams, some of which I brought down as "team of the day". Now that does not make me a Professional manager, but I did have the following players in teams when I taught at Christ's School in Richmond Clinton Morrison (was Chambers) Jody Morris Jason Roberts and Nathan Ellington, and I have to say that without my presence it would have been very unlikely that he would have signed for Rovers Plus since 1968 I suppose I have seen around 1200 Rovers games Before I was a teacher I drove a wagon and drawbar over a lot of Europe. And you? Impressive. Seems like your opinion on such matters will be reasonable and qualified. In a nutshell, I played football as a youngster, made a few pounds from the game but nothing to shout about. Was at Rovers pre YTS under Tony Gill when Ollie came back. Joined the military, where I remained for a fairly long time. I learned that things are usually not what they seem at first and certainly not to judge a book by its cover or first chapter! My transition included a variety of jobs and I am currently a Salesman. I was born Rovers as my Grandfather played in the 50s and have followed from varying distances throughout my life... Ranging from family doos in shirt and tie sipping champagne to traveling on organised buses to rumble with other likeminded idiots. I understand that there is more to management than picking the player that impresses the fans the most on a Saturday and I am sure you do too.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jun 17, 2016 17:51:58 GMT
Looks like this is where he's going, agent trying to get him 10k a week. Terrible move though, he'll almost certainly be a bench warmer.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 17, 2016 18:00:34 GMT
The Sun yesterday named a different striker they were trying to sign earlier in the week, although I think I'd warm a bench for £500K a year!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jun 17, 2016 18:45:31 GMT
Looks like this is where he's going, agent trying to get him 10k a week. Terrible move though, he'll almost certainly be a bench warmer. Or a replacement for Will Grigg?
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Post by yategas78 on Jun 17, 2016 19:13:30 GMT
But he's only done it in the Conference and League 2 I think he needs a season in League 1 before he steps up
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jun 17, 2016 19:37:40 GMT
Sorry but Wigan really isn't the place to be. They get shocking crowds even in the Premiership. He could do far better imo.
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Post by yategas78 on Jun 18, 2016 10:27:46 GMT
He is at the best club he can be at already no need to anywhere yet!
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Post by youmadethatup on Jun 18, 2016 10:37:01 GMT
Sorry but Wigan really isn't the place to be. They get shocking crowds even in the Premiership. He could do far better imo. Wigan were always a small club and some seasons only averaged 1800 - 2500 ish . The clubs rise to the premier league helped grow the club massively ....last season averaging over 9000 in league one. So whilst not a giant still a success story ,which if rovers matched in growth would see BRFC getting maybe 20,000 average crowds in league one promotion years. Let's not mock them till we can match them is my view. After all it's not like another rovers striker has not gone to wigan before....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2016 10:39:10 GMT
If he is going I'd rather it was sorted quickly to be honest, each day it goes on more strikers are off the market.
Wigan is an okay move if he can get games, their crowds will jump in Champ and if they get back into the Premier League they'll be back at relatively big crowds again.
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Post by slam on Jun 18, 2016 12:14:20 GMT
If Taylor does go, I still truly think that Bodin would be a natural replacement - especially now that we seem to have a new right winger to take Bodin's place.
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Post by yategas78 on Jun 18, 2016 12:30:43 GMT
Personally I don't think Matty will cut it higher up at the moment he needs another season with the GAS in league one if he continues to do the business he will be worth a bloody fortune but he may well stay with us when we go up next year anyway UTG
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