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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 9, 2016 18:30:41 GMT
Get moderator title - free bullying pass. Is that it? And yet it was a moderator who stuck up for him when many were just taking the water?? If posters felt so strongly about how TC was being abused then how come no one else spoke out until after he quit? I have no problem with any individual poster being questioned but I'd appreciate it if we could avoid blanket statements that lump a large group of posters (in this case mods) together when it's clear we have different views. I'm not denying your view that you feel one or 2 posters have not acted as you'd have liked. It's fair to say that, despite being a nice enough lad, TC can be a little over sensitive and sadly at times forum life can be a little hostile. It's also worth mentioning that it can be difficult to tell from the written word just how watered off someone is or if something is just teasing or really bullying. I have got this wrong myself in the past but it's not until someone sends you a ranting PM then quits that you realize you've upset them.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jun 9, 2016 18:32:16 GMT
Get moderator title - free bullying pass. Is that it? And yet it was a moderator who stuck up for him when many were just taking the p**s?? If posters felt so strongly about how TC was being abused then how come no one else spoke out until after he quit? I have no problem with any individual poster being questioned but I'd appreciate it if we could avoid blanket statements that lump a large group of posters (in this case mods) together when it's clear we have different views. I'm not denying your view that you feel one or 2 posters have not acted as you'd have liked. It's fair to say that, despite being a nice enough lad, TC can be a little over sensitive and sadly at times forum life can be a little hostile. It's also worth mentioning that it can be difficult to tell from the written word just how watered off someone is or if something is just teasing or really bullying. I have got this wrong myself in the past but it's not until someone sends you a ranting PM then quits that you realize you've upset them. respectfully, my post was in response to inee's.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 9, 2016 18:43:08 GMT
And yet it was a moderator who stuck up for him when many were just taking the p**s?? If posters felt so strongly about how TC was being abused then how come no one else spoke out until after he quit? I have no problem with any individual poster being questioned but I'd appreciate it if we could avoid blanket statements that lump a large group of posters (in this case mods) together when it's clear we have different views. I'm not denying your view that you feel one or 2 posters have not acted as you'd have liked. It's fair to say that, despite being a nice enough lad, TC can be a little over sensitive and sadly at times forum life can be a little hostile. It's also worth mentioning that it can be difficult to tell from the written word just how watered off someone is or if something is just teasing or really bullying. I have got this wrong myself in the past but it's not until someone sends you a ranting PM then quits that you realize you've upset them. respectfully, my post was in response to inee's. You hadn't quoted him so it read like a general comment in the thread. Either way was I not entitled to make reference to it?
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jun 9, 2016 18:47:51 GMT
respectfully, my post was in response to inee's. You hadn't quoted him so it read like a general comment in the thread. Either way was I not entitled to make reference to it? reference what you like but I did not aim it at the moderators only at inees opinion. I made one post against a moderator because I felt his belittling of someone who took an awful lot of stick over the last few days and decided to leave was wrong and I stand by that. I suspect you agree with me on some level too because you seem to be a fair chap.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 9, 2016 18:52:07 GMT
You hadn't quoted him so it read like a general comment in the thread. Either way was I not entitled to make reference to it? reference what you like but I did not aim it at the moderators only at inees opinion. I made one post against a moderator because I felt his belittling of someone who took an awful lot of stick over the last few days and decided to leave was wrong and I stand by that. I suspect you agree with me on some level too because you seem to be a fair chap. I do agree with you and even if I didn't I'd fully support your right to voice it as you did. But I don't agree that being a mod gives you a free pass for bullying.
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Post by Big Jock on Jun 9, 2016 18:54:03 GMT
Arise Hugo th' Peacemaker
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Post by baggins on Jun 9, 2016 18:56:35 GMT
reference what you like but I did not aim it at the moderators only at inees opinion. I made one post against a moderator because I felt his belittling of someone who took an awful lot of stick over the last few days and decided to leave was wrong and I stand by that. I suspect you agree with me on some level too because you seem to be a fair chap. I do agree with you and even if I didn't I'd fully support your right to voice it as you did. But I don't agree that being a mod gives you a free pass for bullying. It does however allow you to change posters word. I'm a gay, perverted, twat.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 9, 2016 19:01:57 GMT
I do agree with you and even if I didn't I'd fully support your right to voice it as you did. But I don't agree that being a mod gives you a free pass for bullying. It does however allow you to change posters word. I'm a gay, perverted, twat. I dont know what you mean.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jun 9, 2016 19:02:25 GMT
reference what you like but I did not aim it at the moderators only at inees opinion. I made one post against a moderator because I felt his belittling of someone who took an awful lot of stick over the last few days and decided to leave was wrong and I stand by that. I suspect you agree with me on some level too because you seem to be a fair chap. I do agree with you and even if I didn't I'd fully support your right to voice it as you did. But I don't agree that being a mod gives you a free pass for bullying. No, nor do I like I said.
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Post by baggins on Jun 9, 2016 19:07:40 GMT
It does however allow you to change posters word. I'm a gay, perverted, twat. I dont know where my penis is.
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Post by inee on Jun 9, 2016 19:40:20 GMT
Get moderator title - free bullying pass. Is that it? No i never said it did what i said was a mod or admin are also entitled to their own opinions, i also said twertonkid has a history of flouncing and returning, i also said in an earlier post if you give it out you have to be able to take it back. just because a mod or admin or poster says something no one else agrees with it isn't bullying, If someone was bullying twerton kid i would be the first to call the bully a lady garden, i tried in my post to explain the reason that mod/admin titles are displayed on this forum, reread my post as im not defending bullying merely explaining the fact that mods admins do have their own opinions, i would rather they were truthful than have them pretend they were holier than thou. Dont forget that twerton kid had called another poster a lady garden, so it was obvious that others would jump on that. Don't take this the wrong way but have you ever actually been bullied for real
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Post by Bill Bones on Jun 9, 2016 21:34:38 GMT
Another thing to note is that the fact that somebody is a moderator doesn't mean that it's okay to make any statement or accusation about them unchallenged. Repeatedly calling somebody a bully is actually a relatively serious accusation. I don't know whether certain posts are in reference to myself or Lord Sugar. I myself posted something in response to Twertonkid - I felt he was deliberately antagonising and irritating other posters, so I posted something to irritate him. Is this something I am proud of or would do again with the benefit of hindsight? Perhaps not. But we are all only human and if we all lynched every member who occasionally makes an error in judgement we would not have many posters left. Bullying is defined as "often repeated and habitual" and I wonder if you could find a moderator who directly replied to Twertonkid more than once or twice - certainly I did not.
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Post by Big Jock on Jun 9, 2016 22:01:46 GMT
Jes normal light hearted banter i thinks, if nae one would have deleted there account nae body wouldnae ave said anything. An in fairnes to Sugar Baby he couldnae be accused o bullying coz he posted his banter AFTER th' chap deleted his account!
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jun 9, 2016 22:31:21 GMT
Another thing to note is that the fact that somebody is a moderator doesn't mean that it's okay to make any statement or accusation about them unchallenged. Repeatedly calling somebody a bully is actually a relatively serious accusation. I don't know whether certain posts are in reference to myself or Lord Sugar. I myself posted something in response to Twertonkid - I felt he was deliberately antagonising and irritating other posters, so I posted something to irritate him. Is this something I am proud of or would do again with the benefit of hindsight? Perhaps not. But we are all only human and if we all lynched every member who occasionally makes an error in judgement we would not have many posters left. Bullying is defined as "often repeated and habitual" and I wonder if you could find a moderator who directly replied to Twertonkid more than once or twice - certainly I did not. iys your forum mate, do what you like. Where in that thread was he antagonistic though? He posted a design of some shirts, wrote a bit extra which was good natured and then you posted that and it made him leave. Dont think you can say he deserved it on the back of that thread but that's just my opinion.
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Post by Bill Bones on Jun 10, 2016 6:23:05 GMT
Another thing to note is that the fact that somebody is a moderator doesn't mean that it's okay to make any statement or accusation about them unchallenged. Repeatedly calling somebody a bully is actually a relatively serious accusation. I don't know whether certain posts are in reference to myself or Lord Sugar. I myself posted something in response to Twertonkid - I felt he was deliberately antagonising and irritating other posters, so I posted something to irritate him. Is this something I am proud of or would do again with the benefit of hindsight? Perhaps not. But we are all only human and if we all lynched every member who occasionally makes an error in judgement we would not have many posters left. Bullying is defined as "often repeated and habitual" and I wonder if you could find a moderator who directly replied to Twertonkid more than once or twice - certainly I did not. iys your forum mate, do what you like. Where in that thread was he antagonistic though? He posted a design of some shirts, wrote a bit extra which was good natured and then you posted that and it made him leave. Dont think you can say he deserved it on the back of that thread but that's just my opinion. It isn't my forum mate and evidently doing what I like results in some kind of scrutiny and questioning, which I have freely responded to and is perhaps only right. Where in my post do I say he deserved it? In your post you completely ignore the majority of what I've said, so what was the point of engaging with my post at all? If you were to look back through my posting history, before and since I have been a moderator, I doubt you'd be able to find more than one or two other confrontations in total. The only purpose of Twertonkid's post was to antagonise and mislead other gasheads. I don't know whether you posted on the old OF or anything like that but I can assure you it is not uncharacteristic behaviour from him, and that he is fully aware of the implications of what he posts.
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Post by inee on Jun 10, 2016 10:08:02 GMT
Jes normal light hearted banter i thinks, if nae one would have deleted there account nae body wouldnae ave said anything. An in fairnes to Sugar Baby he couldnae be accused o bullying coz he posted his banter AFTER th' chap deleted his account! Jock in this day and age wouldn't that be classed as retrospective bullying
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Post by Big Jock on Jun 10, 2016 16:38:02 GMT
Jes normal light hearted banter i thinks, if nae one would have deleted there account nae body wouldnae ave said anything. An in fairnes to Sugar Baby he couldnae be accused o bullying coz he posted his banter AFTER th' chap deleted his account! Jock in this day and age wouldn't that be classed as retrospective bullying Dinnae giv a feck wit yous call it, oi an you an me ar wee pals we stiks taegether ya crayon Th' rest of yeez, square go ya f**kin pussies, bring yer brers an cousins anaw ya f**kin rockets! Jes sayin!
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