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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 7:49:47 GMT
This morning I saw for the first time a car with the two little England flags clamped on the windows. It all seems a little bit more low key this time around, which is probably no bad thing. Why is it no bad thing, it's a bloody travesty that the cross of St George isn't flown more often Here in Germany, you see the German flag being flown everywhere. It all started when they had the World Cup here. At the time, I had German friends asking me if it was alright to buy, and display, a German flag. They had all been brought up to believe that having pride in your flag was a bad thing. Now, it's everywhere. People hang them from their homes, from their cars. Coming to work this morning I saw people with wristbands on, bands around their hats, umbrellas.......There was Black, Red and Yellow all over the place.
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Post by Captain Jayho on Jun 13, 2016 11:07:34 GMT
At least it takes a full battalion of bum-bag clad Russian stormtroopers to steal our flags and then hold them to ransom. The 82ers steal flags from their own fans at Ashton Gate so they obviously wouldn't have any left to take on tour. I wonder if the perpetrators take ransom pictures like this (but obviously from their sister's bedroom) and then post them on OTIB?
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Post by mariobalotelli on Jun 13, 2016 11:54:26 GMT
At least it takes a full battalion of bum-bag clad Russian stormtroopers to steal our flags and then hold them to ransom. The 82ers steal flags from their own fans at Ashton Gate so they obviously wouldn't have any left to take on tour. I wonder if the perpetrators take ransom pictures like this (but obviously from their sister's bedroom) and then post them on OTIB? It's a Marseille kit on the left so guessing it's French fans.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jun 13, 2016 11:59:49 GMT
At least it takes a full battalion of bum-bag clad Russian stormtroopers to steal our flags and then hold them to ransom. The 82ers steal flags from their own fans at Ashton Gate so they obviously wouldn't have any left to take on tour. I wonder if the perpetrators take ransom pictures like this (but obviously from their sister's bedroom) and then post them on OTIB? It's a Marseille kit on the left so guessing it's French fans. Unless the Marseille kit was stolen too?
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Post by inee on Jun 13, 2016 12:27:42 GMT
Why is it no bad thing, it's a bloody travesty that the cross of St George isn't flown more often Here in Germany, you see the German flag being flown everywhere. It all started when they had the World Cup here. At the time, I had German friends asking me if it was alright to buy, and display, a German flag. They had all been brought up to believe that having pride in your flag was a bad thing. Now, it's everywhere. People hang them from their homes, from their cars. Coming to work this morning I saw people with wristbands on, bands around their hats, umbrellas.......There was Black, Red and Yellow all over the place. Good point, and here the thing rightly or wrongly, most englishmen have no pride in their national flag, now if someone would have tried to take a union flag at the euros then it would have been defended more by the fans, if i remember correctly scarfing was stopped as after a while it was seen as cowardly ie steal a child's scarf and strut around, so it stopped. Now i'm not condoning the hooligans but i feel that mostly not always over here its firm against firm, and these days most people wearing kit or scarves are normally ok, Back in the 70's/80/s it seemed to be about taking the scarves so everyone was a target. It seems the russians etc are harking back to the bad old days and taking flags instead of scarves and rather than rucking with like minded individuals, everyone with a flag is a target so brave, the reason you see flags upside down, is over there it's seen as an insult, unfortunately most people seem unable to figure it out and get attacked just because they have a flag(again i'm not saying it's a good thing as fans should be able to carry their team or national flag without hinderance) . The rovers flag that got nicked i just hope the owners are ok. Another issue for me is that everyone seems to jump on some of our fans for hitting back, however i ask you this if you were in the middle of the chaos and were being twatted would you not try and punch your way out if cornered, again if you were having bottles etc thrown at you. and the people were coming at you would you not throw one back, i know i would, am i hard nope, am i stupid nope but i am human with a strong fight or flight reflex, just like the majority of people, it's easy to sit and say oh he punched that guy so he's a thug, but i will say it again some are but many are not they are just trying to protect themselve, mates ,birds etc. You can also guarantee that if scarfing was still being done every week over here then, the violence in france would have been much much worse. This is my own opinion and doesn't seek to glorify whats going on merely just trying to put some realistic points across for those who are so closed minded that if a fight occures anywhere in the world on any given day then it must bee football fans mustn't it. Remember it's quick to judge, based on what happened in the past, but also remember you must at the same time look at whats going on today and judge on things now not in the past, otherwise we can conclude it's the frogs fault as yet again they are collaberating with the germans, or maybe it all stems back to when the crusades started (just saying like)
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Post by Captain Jayho on Jun 13, 2016 13:14:43 GMT
At least it takes a full battalion of bum-bag clad Russian stormtroopers to steal our flags and then hold them to ransom. The 82ers steal flags from their own fans at Ashton Gate so they obviously wouldn't have any left to take on tour. I wonder if the perpetrators take ransom pictures like this (but obviously from their sister's bedroom) and then post them on OTIB? It's a Marseille kit on the left so guessing it's French fans. Fair point, Marseille is an utter shithole so not that surprising I suppose.
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Jun 13, 2016 18:01:38 GMT
Here in Germany, you see the German flag being flown everywhere. It all started when they had the World Cup here. At the time, I had German friends asking me if it was alright to buy, and display, a German flag. They had all been brought up to believe that having pride in your flag was a bad thing. Now, it's everywhere. People hang them from their homes, from their cars. Coming to work this morning I saw people with wristbands on, bands around their hats, umbrellas.......There was Black, Red and Yellow all over the place. Good point, and here the thing rightly or wrongly, most englishmen have no pride in their national flag, now if someone would have tried to take a union flag at the euros then it would have been defended more by the fans, if i remember correctly scarfing was stopped as after a while it was seen as cowardly ie steal a child's scarf and strut around, so it stopped. Now i'm not condoning the hooligans but i feel that mostly not always over here its firm against firm, and these days most people wearing kit or scarves are normally ok, Back in the 70's/80/s it seemed to be about taking the scarves so everyone was a target. It seems the russians etc are harking back to the bad old days and taking flags instead of scarves and rather than rucking with like minded individuals, everyone with a flag is a target so brave, the reason you see flags upside down, is over there it's seen as an insult, unfortunately most people seem unable to figure it out and get attacked just because they have a flag(again i'm not saying it's a good thing as fans should be able to carry their team or national flag without hinderance) . The rovers flag that got nicked i just hope the owners are ok. Another issue for me is that everyone seems to jump on some of our fans for hitting back, however i ask you this if you were in the middle of the chaos and were being twatted would you not try and punch your way out if cornered, again if you were having bottles etc thrown at you. and the people were coming at you would you not throw one back, i know i would, am i hard nope, am i stupid nope but i am human with a strong fight or flight reflex, just like the majority of people, it's easy to sit and say oh he punched that guy so he's a thug, but i will say it again some are but many are not they are just trying to protect themselve, mates ,birds etc. You can also guarantee that if scarfing was still being done every week over here then, the violence in france would have been much much worse. This is my own opinion and doesn't seek to glorify whats going on merely just trying to put some realistic points across for those who are so closed minded that if a fight occures anywhere in the world on any given day then it must bee football fans mustn't it. Remember it's quick to judge, based on what happened in the past, but also remember you must at the same time look at whats going on today and judge on things now not in the past, otherwise we can conclude it's the frogs fault as yet again they are collaberating with the germans, or maybe it all stems back to when the crusades started (just saying like) just read the Wales online as to how self indulgent they have become, stating that they have the best fans in the world because they sang songs and didn't get into trouble, the point I'm making is like you stated if they were attacked or provoked they would retaliate exactly the same. These so called best fans in the world weren't even around in the dark days of Welsh football hence why they don't play at millennium stadium. Problem is all the home nations are jumping on the bandwagon, there is a video showing a bloke knock a bystander unconscious but it's titled 'English scum knocks out innocent', as you can imagine the anti English racism from the scots, Irish, Welsh is crazy, however there is not a single England shirt in this video, the guy is wearing blue. it's just been posted as hate propaganda.
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Post by aghast on Jun 14, 2016 21:02:16 GMT
Well done Iceland. Their chant sounded a bit like Grimsby's 'Fish!' I'm even more worried about us v Wales now.
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Post by Newton Abbot Gas on Jun 14, 2016 21:11:14 GMT
The Beard would look good in the Icelandic team........Stuart Sinclairson.....well done to a proper football team ......UTG
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Post by aghast on Jun 15, 2016 14:24:42 GMT
Slovakia beating Russia 2-0. Hide your colours after the game you Slovaks.
If we don't beat Wales tomorrow, Slovakia need a point against us to ensure England go home early in shame, again.
So we really must beat Wales.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jun 15, 2016 14:35:29 GMT
Slovakia beating Russia 2-0. Hide your colours after the game you Slovaks. If we don't beat Wales tomorrow, Slovakia need a point against us to ensure England go home early in shame, again. So we really must beat Wales. Is it not possible to go through with 3 draws?
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Post by aghast on Jun 15, 2016 14:39:07 GMT
Slovakia beating Russia 2-0. Hide your colours after the game you Slovaks. If we don't beat Wales tomorrow, Slovakia need a point against us to ensure England go home early in shame, again. So we really must beat Wales. Is it not possible to go through with 3 draws? Wales and Slovakia would both have 4 points and we'd have 3. Might have a chance of best 3rd placed team, but that's out of our hands by then.
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Post by wiaww on Jun 15, 2016 14:51:00 GMT
Slovakia beating Russia 2-0. Hide your colours after the game you Slovaks. If we don't beat Wales tomorrow, Slovakia need a point against us to ensure England go home early in shame, again. So we really must beat Wales. 2-1 now. Good result for us. Even if we lose to Wales tomorrow then we can still beat Slovakia and go through.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 15:10:34 GMT
We shall beat Bales and Slovakia and win the group
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 17:54:45 GMT
Quick question for the bettors among us..
I went into the bookies the other day for the first time in years. They've changed.
Dont laugh, but I bet a 'few quid' on England to win the euros.
I asked the guy behind the counter what price, he said currently 9/1 (about the best online at the time too).
I wrote on the slip 'England to win euro 2016' and underneath '9/1'. Matey took my cash and gave the receipt but no estimated return printed at the bottom?
Am I right in thinking I have got the price of 9/1 as I wrote it on the slip?
Sorry for such a simple and probably stupid/worthless question!
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Post by oddsongas on Jun 15, 2016 17:56:50 GMT
Quick question for the bettors among us.. I went into the bookies the other day for the first time in years. They've changed. Dont laugh, but I bet a 'few quid' on England to win the euros. I asked the guy behind the counter what price, he said currently 9/1 (about the best online at the time too). I wrote on the slip 'England to win euro 2016' and underneath '9/1'. Matey took my cash and gave the receipt but no estimated return printed at the bottom? Am I right in thinking I have got the price of 9/1 as I wrote it on the slip? Sorry for such a simple and prob stupid qu! Correct
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 17:58:06 GMT
Quick question for the bettors among us.. I went into the bookies the other day for the first time in years. They've changed. Dont laugh, but I bet a 'few quid' on England to win the euros. I asked the guy behind the counter what price, he said currently 9/1 (about the best online at the time too). I wrote on the slip 'England to win euro 2016' and underneath '9/1'. Matey took my cash and gave the receipt but no estimated return printed at the bottom? Am I right in thinking I have got the price of 9/1 as I wrote it on the slip? Sorry for such a simple and prob stupid qu! Correct Cheers mate. I'm sure it wont matter. Anyone else got any bets on?
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Post by socrates on Jun 15, 2016 18:36:17 GMT
Correct Cheers mate. I'm sure it wont matter. Anyone else got any bets on? Ive done Wales to win and both teams to score tomorrow at 12-1. I hope we win but if Wales do us at least I'll win some cash. I had a look st England for the game but the bookies have us as overwhelming favourites, I don't see it that way, I think it'll be close.
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Post by socrates on Jun 15, 2016 18:37:13 GMT
I've done France 4-0 or 4-1 tonight too.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jun 15, 2016 18:40:07 GMT
Cheers mate. I'm sure it wont matter. Anyone else got any bets on? Ive done Wales to win and both teams to score tomorrow at 12-1. I hope we win but if Wales do us at least I'll win some cash. I had a look st England for the game but the bookies have us as overwhelming favourites, I don't see it that way, I think it'll be close. I think it will be close but I think we will dominate posession and win 1-0.
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