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Post by RD on Jun 28, 2016 6:56:39 GMT
IF we are going to go for an English coach, I'd have thought the best person for it is Pardew. That's not saying a lot.
The biggest disappointment last night (amongst many, many things), is that I wasn't remotely surprised. At no point was I in shock (actually, that's a lie - I was in shock for all of the 3 minutes after we took the lead and so early on in the match).
Time to completely give up on the national team. I really hope the country boycott's them now. They are a disgrace - no passion, no desire - nothing.
The biggest worry, is that the FA will use this abject performance as a reason (excuse) to finally put Premier League B teams in to the lower leagues as an "attempt to improve the grassroots game". The irony is that every rule they implement in order to improve the national side, actually weakens the grassroots game and with it the national side in the years to come.
How Premiership sides can pinch players from lower-league clubs for peanuts and then get away with letting them rot in their reserve sides; nothing beats a young player getting competitive experience week in, week out. It's a joke. Yes the facilities are better, but a gym's a f**king gym. Nothing beats playing week in, week out.
None of the candidates to take over will be an improvement. I'd go as far as to say that Southgate or Shearer would actually be a step backwards.
In short, f**k the national team and up the Gas!
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Post by pudseygas on Jun 28, 2016 7:00:06 GMT
Has the season started yet? It's going to be a long 5 weeks. Need some positive news from the club to counter the rest of this countries sh**e
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 7:02:07 GMT
Even baggins is tighter at the back than England. On the bright side, I'm glad I don't work with a bunch of Germans otherwise I'd feel a right prick going into work tomorrow. Thanks Hugo. You have no idea of what it is like today. Do I feel a bit of a prick in work today? Yep, no different to any English fan anywhere in the world. I'll have a stream of blokes, who normally I'm only on nodding terms with, walking past my desk and even stopping to talk about the game last night. Oh what fun I'll have today. Can you ever imagine Jogi Löw saying to Matts Hummels and Boetang..."yer lads, don't worry. I know it's Iceland we're playing but it's ok as you'll have a Defensive Midfielder sat in front of you to protect you!"....Really, we played a DM to protect the back four....against friggin Iceland...and we still conceded two...against friggin Iceland! Did Woy reveal something interesting in his resignation speech last night? He mentioned being told when he took the job that the players won't turn up. He did say he hadn't seen this........but was he letting slip his true feelings? Anyway, resigning and then walking off without taking questions was the act of a coward. He should have had the honour to sit there and face the questions, and he would have gained a lot of respect if he had been brutally honest, both with his own decisions and the actions of the players. FFS, I'll even have my five year old Son taking the water out of me, and I can't even respond to anyone with a bit of banter. Hart, Smalling, Cahill, Rooney, Sterling should never ever be selected for an England squad again....In fact Hart, Sterling and Rooney should be offered a bottle of whisky and the Mess Revolver and told to go and do the honourable thing.....Trouble is, Sterling and Rooney would probably miss, and Hart would drop the bottle! Rashford and Alli can be excused because of their age. All the rest should be made to beg for a spot.......and after begging, be told to Foxtrot Oscar. At 11pm last night, I put some burners on the BBQ and I burnt my two England shirts, my scarf and my flag. The England Manager's job is now like the Leeds job. Nobody who is decent will want to go anywhere near it. The players have quite clearly shown they don't give a feck, and we've known that about Rooney since the World Cup in South Africa....How many years ago was that? From now on, only select players from Championship clubs (or lower) or players who play abroad. Also, give the players an IQ test. This current lot haven't got a brain cell between them. Thick as sh** off the pitch, even thicker on it. I give you Wayne Rooney. The bloke can hardly put a coherent sentence together.
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Post by gaseous on Jun 28, 2016 7:35:14 GMT
The rest of the world shares our pain: Merkel to Putin, well done sending the boys to Marseilles, it certainly made the English look bad. Now, about this agreement! As David Walliams looks on.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 28, 2016 7:41:35 GMT
Even baggins is tighter at the back than England. On the bright side, I'm glad I don't work with a bunch of Germans otherwise I'd feel a right prick going into work tomorrow. Thanks Hugo. You have no idea of what it is like today. Do I feel a bit of a prick in work today? Yep, no different to any English fan anywhere in the world. I'll have a stream of blokes, who normally I'm only on nodding terms with, walking past my desk and even stopping to talk about the game last night. Oh what fun I'll have today. Can you ever imagine Jogi Löw saying to Matts Hummels and Boetang..."yer lads, don't worry. I know it's Iceland we're playing but it's ok as you'll have a Defensive Midfielder sat in front of you to protect you!"....Really, we played a DM to protect the back four....against friggin Iceland...and we still conceded two...against friggin Iceland! Did Woy reveal something interesting in his resignation speech last night? He mentioned being told when he took the job that the players won't turn up. He did say he hadn't seen this........but was he letting slip his true feelings? Anyway, resigning and then walking off without taking questions was the act of a coward. He should have had the honour to sit there and face the questions, and he would have gained a lot of respect if he had been brutally honest, both with his own decisions and the actions of the players. FFS, I'll even have my five year old Son taking the p**s out of me, and I can't even respond to anyone with a bit of banter. Hart, Smalling, Cahill, Rooney, Sterling should never ever be selected for an England squad again....In fact Hart, Sterling and Rooney should be offered a bottle of whisky and the Mess Revolver and told to go and do the honourable thing.....Trouble is, Sterling and Rooney would probably miss, and Hart would drop the bottle! Rashford and Alli can be excused because of their age. All the rest should be made to beg for a spot.......and after begging, be told to Foxtrot Oscar. At 11pm last night, I put some burners on the BBQ and I burnt my two England shirts, my scarf and my flag. The England Manager's job is now like the Leeds job. Nobody who is decent will want to go anywhere near it. The players have quite clearly shown they don't give a feck, and we've known that about Rooney since the World Cup in South Africa....How many years ago was that? From now on, only select players from Championship clubs (or lower) or players who play abroad. Also, give the players an IQ test. This current lot haven't got a brain cell between them. Thick as sh** off the pitch, even thicker on it. I give you Wayne Rooney. The bloke can hardly put a coherent sentence together. Bloody he'll mate, keep yer fez on. Its only a game.
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Post by hollyhillgas on Jun 28, 2016 7:43:51 GMT
On BBC this morning they said Woy must have had his resignation / apology speech already written before the game.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 7:52:09 GMT
Thanks Hugo. You have no idea of what it is like today. Do I feel a bit of a prick in work today? Yep, no different to any English fan anywhere in the world. I'll have a stream of blokes, who normally I'm only on nodding terms with, walking past my desk and even stopping to talk about the game last night. Oh what fun I'll have today. Can you ever imagine Jogi Löw saying to Matts Hummels and Boetang..."yer lads, don't worry. I know it's Iceland we're playing but it's ok as you'll have a Defensive Midfielder sat in front of you to protect you!"....Really, we played a DM to protect the back four....against friggin Iceland...and we still conceded two...against friggin Iceland! Did Woy reveal something interesting in his resignation speech last night? He mentioned being told when he took the job that the players won't turn up. He did say he hadn't seen this........but was he letting slip his true feelings? Anyway, resigning and then walking off without taking questions was the act of a coward. He should have had the honour to sit there and face the questions, and he would have gained a lot of respect if he had been brutally honest, both with his own decisions and the actions of the players. FFS, I'll even have my five year old Son taking the p**s out of me, and I can't even respond to anyone with a bit of banter. Hart, Smalling, Cahill, Rooney, Sterling should never ever be selected for an England squad again....In fact Hart, Sterling and Rooney should be offered a bottle of whisky and the Mess Revolver and told to go and do the honourable thing.....Trouble is, Sterling and Rooney would probably miss, and Hart would drop the bottle! Rashford and Alli can be excused because of their age. All the rest should be made to beg for a spot.......and after begging, be told to Foxtrot Oscar. At 11pm last night, I put some burners on the BBQ and I burnt my two England shirts, my scarf and my flag. The England Manager's job is now like the Leeds job. Nobody who is decent will want to go anywhere near it. The players have quite clearly shown they don't give a feck, and we've known that about Rooney since the World Cup in South Africa....How many years ago was that? From now on, only select players from Championship clubs (or lower) or players who play abroad. Also, give the players an IQ test. This current lot haven't got a brain cell between them. Thick as sh** off the pitch, even thicker on it. I give you Wayne Rooney. The bloke can hardly put a coherent sentence together. Bloody he'll mate, keep yer fez on. Its only a game. Are you my missus ?
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Post by hollyhillgas on Jun 28, 2016 7:56:51 GMT
"Being Premier players they were not used to long throw ins" think Glenn Hoddle said it. I think the pace of the game is quicker at this tournament, more like Championship, but with skill factor added for the really good teams. Hodgson is stuck in the slow slow, back and sideways game.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jun 28, 2016 8:13:52 GMT
On BBC this morning they said Woy must have had his resignation / apology speech already written before the game. Only because his speech was articulate. We're not used to footballers being able to string two decent sentences together in England. If only his team was able to string two decent passes together.
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Post by stevethepirate on Jun 28, 2016 8:32:33 GMT
Well people, now we can look forward to those incompetent, grey suited, London centric, navel gazing, deluded imbeciles of the FA doing an extensive search for another tame puppy for the manager's job. Oh Hi Gareth, did not see you skulking there. You'll do. After all you've done bugger all with the under 21s. It's lamost enough to make you turn Welsh. Almost.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 8:38:33 GMT
Hats off to the Icelandic keeper though. He made that world class catch from a tame Kane header, and apart from that, he was so awesome that England were actually scared to shoot. Their keeper played a blinder....didn't he?
Is it time to start scouting the lower leagues to find a few Welsh, Irish or Scots lads who have English grandparents?
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Post by croscombegas on Jun 28, 2016 8:55:51 GMT
Even baggins is tighter at the back than England. On the bright side, I'm glad I don't work with a bunch of Germans otherwise I'd feel a right prick going into work tomorrow. Thanks Hugo. You have no idea of what it is like today. Do I feel a bit of a prick in work today? Yep, no different to any English fan anywhere in the world. I'll have a stream of blokes, who normally I'm only on nodding terms with, walking past my desk and even stopping to talk about the game last night. Oh what fun I'll have today. Can you ever imagine Jogi Löw saying to Matts Hummels and Boetang..."yer lads, don't worry. I know it's Iceland we're playing but it's ok as you'll have a Defensive Midfielder sat in front of you to protect you!"....Really, we played a DM to protect the back four....against friggin Iceland...and we still conceded two...against friggin Iceland! Did Woy reveal something interesting in his resignation speech last night? He mentioned being told when he took the job that the players won't turn up. He did say he hadn't seen this........but was he letting slip his true feelings? Anyway, resigning and then walking off without taking questions was the act of a coward. He should have had the honour to sit there and face the questions, and he would have gained a lot of respect if he had been brutally honest, both with his own decisions and the actions of the players. FFS, I'll even have my five year old Son taking the p**s out of me, and I can't even respond to anyone with a bit of banter. Hart, Smalling, Cahill, Rooney, Sterling should never ever be selected for an England squad again....In fact Hart, Sterling and Rooney should be offered a bottle of whisky and the Mess Revolver and told to go and do the honourable thing.....Trouble is, Sterling and Rooney would probably miss, and Hart would drop the bottle! Rashford and Alli can be excused because of their age. All the rest should be made to beg for a spot.......and after begging, be told to Foxtrot Oscar. At 11pm last night, I put some burners on the BBQ and I burnt my two England shirts, my scarf and my flag. The England Manager's job is now like the Leeds job. Nobody who is decent will want to go anywhere near it. The players have quite clearly shown they don't give a feck, and we've known that about Rooney since the World Cup in South Africa....How many years ago was that? From now on, only select players from Championship clubs (or lower) or players who play abroad. Also, give the players an IQ test. This current lot haven't got a brain cell between them. Thick as sh** off the pitch, even thicker on it. I give you Wayne Rooney. The bloke can hardly put a coherent sentence together. One of the best and well put together posts I've ever seen on any Rovers forum, brilliant piece of writting, and for what it's worth I agree with every bit of it
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 9:09:35 GMT
Thanks Hugo. You have no idea of what it is like today. Do I feel a bit of a prick in work today? Yep, no different to any English fan anywhere in the world. I'll have a stream of blokes, who normally I'm only on nodding terms with, walking past my desk and even stopping to talk about the game last night. Oh what fun I'll have today. Can you ever imagine Jogi Löw saying to Matts Hummels and Boetang..."yer lads, don't worry. I know it's Iceland we're playing but it's ok as you'll have a Defensive Midfielder sat in front of you to protect you!"....Really, we played a DM to protect the back four....against friggin Iceland...and we still conceded two...against friggin Iceland! Did Woy reveal something interesting in his resignation speech last night? He mentioned being told when he took the job that the players won't turn up. He did say he hadn't seen this........but was he letting slip his true feelings? Anyway, resigning and then walking off without taking questions was the act of a coward. He should have had the honour to sit there and face the questions, and he would have gained a lot of respect if he had been brutally honest, both with his own decisions and the actions of the players. FFS, I'll even have my five year old Son taking the p**s out of me, and I can't even respond to anyone with a bit of banter. Hart, Smalling, Cahill, Rooney, Sterling should never ever be selected for an England squad again....In fact Hart, Sterling and Rooney should be offered a bottle of whisky and the Mess Revolver and told to go and do the honourable thing.....Trouble is, Sterling and Rooney would probably miss, and Hart would drop the bottle! Rashford and Alli can be excused because of their age. All the rest should be made to beg for a spot.......and after begging, be told to Foxtrot Oscar. At 11pm last night, I put some burners on the BBQ and I burnt my two England shirts, my scarf and my flag. The England Manager's job is now like the Leeds job. Nobody who is decent will want to go anywhere near it. The players have quite clearly shown they don't give a feck, and we've known that about Rooney since the World Cup in South Africa....How many years ago was that? From now on, only select players from Championship clubs (or lower) or players who play abroad. Also, give the players an IQ test. This current lot haven't got a brain cell between them. Thick as sh** off the pitch, even thicker on it. I give you Wayne Rooney. The bloke can hardly put a coherent sentence together. One of the best and well put together posts I've ever seen on any Rovers forum, brilliant piece of writting, and for what it's worth I agree with every bit of it Thanks. The cheque is in the post Another thing. After the game last night, somebody from the FA should have gone out and selected ten random English fans from the crowd. They should then have been taken into the dressing room and given twenty minutes to 'talk' to the English players and coaching staff. This should also have been filmed and put on YouTube.
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Jun 28, 2016 9:15:07 GMT
Dion Dublin as manager for me. On TV this morning talking about utilising the full width of the grass. Spending time working on the 2 up top & getting experts in to help in their various fields of expertise...... oh hang on, he's talking about house renovation. He is talking sense though
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 9:34:24 GMT
We've all seen the film Mike Bassett, England Manager. Why is it that we all know that Rooney would not look out of place in Mike Bassett's England Team?
England team talk before the game.......
"right lads, here's the plan. Give the ball to Smally. He'll then walk forward five yards, and then pass it square to Cally. After passing the ball Smally will then run back as quick as he can for five yards. Cally will then walk forward with the ball before passing it back to Smally, who by this time has advanced five yards. Do this for a couple of minutes before one of them pops it five yards to Wayner. By this time we will have sucked the Icelandic defense into the middle of the pitch because they'll be terrified of Smally or Cally coming forward with the ball. Wayner will then ping it 40 yards out to one of the full-backs, who may struggle to control the chest high pass, but whatever. Once the ball is under control, the full-backs will then check back, and give it back to either Smally or Cally........and repeat. Do this a few times and them Icelandics will get dizzy......as soon as that happens, Wayner will ping a long ball to the corner flag, and before you know it we'll be in behind them. Ericy, you can loiter in the same area as Smally, Cally and Wayner, that way we'll have four players in a tight group around the centre spot to stop any lightning counter attacks, maybe. With four players grouped together, the two-full backs out wide and Harty in goal that'll still leave four players for the eleven Icelandics to mark. Right, that's that sorted, now for positions. Sterlingy, you're right footed so you'll play on the left, and Sturridgy, you're left footed so you'll play on the right. Kaney, you'll take all set pieces. I know you don't do that normally, but they won't expect it, so that'll cause them no end of trouble. Wayner, you will transform in a central midfield player who can run a game, a bit like that Frenchie Zindane Zinade used to do....oh, and Harty, try and stop the ball from going into the net tonight please. One more thing lads, Iceland only have one trick. It's a long throw, but you've all played against Stoke at some point, so we know how to deal with that. Nothing needs to be said eh? Right, off you go, win the game and then just sit back and see your image rights triple in value."
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Post by croscombegas on Jun 28, 2016 9:40:33 GMT
We've all seen the film Mike Bassett, England Manager. Why is it that we all know that Rooney would not look out of place in Mike Bassett's England Team? England team talk before the game....... "right lads, here's the plan. Give the ball to Smally. He'll then walk forward five yards, and then pass it square to Cally. After passing the ball Smally will then run back as quick as he can for five yards. Cally will then walk forward with the ball before passing it back to Smally, who by this time has advanced five yards. Do this for a couple of minutes before one of them pops it five yards to Wayner. By this time we will have sucked the Icelandic defense into the middle of the pitch because they'll be terrified of Smally or Cally coming forward with the ball. Wayner will then ping it 40 yards out to one of the full-backs, who may struggle to control the chest high pass, but whatever. Once the ball is under control, the full-backs will then check back, and give it back to either Smally or Cally........and repeat. Do this a few times and them Icelandics will get dizzy......as soon as that happens, Wayner will ping a long ball to the corner flag, and before you know it we'll be in behind them. Ericy, you can loiter in the same area as Smally, Cally and Wayner, that way we'll have four players in a tight group around the centre spot to stop any lightning counter attacks, maybe. With four players grouped together, the two-full backs out wide and Harty in goal that'll still leave four players for the eleven Icelandics to mark. Right, that's that sorted, now for positions. Sterlingy, you're right footed so you'll play on the left, and Sturridgy, you're left footed so you'll play on the right. Kaney, you'll take all set pieces. I know you don't do that normally, but they won't expect it, so that'll cause them no end of trouble. Wayner, you will transform in a central midfield player who can run a game, a bit like that Frenchie Zindane Zinade used to do....oh, and Harty, try and stop the ball from going into the net tonight please. One more thing lads, Iceland only have one trick. It's a long throw, but you've all played against Stoke at some point, so we know how to deal with that. Nothing needs to be said eh? Right, off you go, win the game and then just sit back and see your image rights triple in value." Your on a roll Nobby, bloody brilliant 😆
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Post by lpgas on Jun 28, 2016 12:23:22 GMT
I feel sorry for any England manager. The truth is until we have Premier Clubs fielding 6,7,8, or 9 English players in a team week in week out then we will never be any good. When the Prem was formed one of the aims it stated on it's charter was to "improve the England football team". I think that clubs that play 11 foreigners are not abiding by that and why should they. Sky love the idea that the league is international so they can sell the rights all over the world and the FA are frightened to say or do anything. Other countries have limits and that is what we need. Meanwhile players from all over the world want to come here just for the money. In many ways we are lucky at Rovers (as are other small clubs) in that we chat to the manager and players and we know that they are just like us, although probably younger, thinner and better at football. But we know they just turn up in their car and walk across the car park. Go to Spurs , Arsenal or infact any of them and watch them arrive in darkened out limos. A few months ago I stayed at the West Ham hotel, the room was a "box" on match days. In the players car park was a Lamborghini and when I asked one of the staff in the breakfast room who did it belong to he said it was Angelo Ogbanna (never heard of him) he said he had two, and would drive an alternative one for each game. That is West Ham, certainly not the richest club in the Prem, but it does show the scale of salaries they are paying, and to be honest it also says that despite all that money, it guarantees you nothing. Meanwhile the England team gets worse.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 12:39:52 GMT
I feel sorry for any England manager. The truth is until we have Premier Clubs fielding 6,7,8, or 9 English players in a team week in week out then we will never be any good. When the Prem was formed one of the aims it stated on it's charter was to "improve the England football team". I think that clubs that play 11 foreigners are not abiding by that and why should they. Sky love the idea that the league is international so they can sell the rights all over the world and the FA are frightened to say or do anything. Other countries have limits and that is what we need. Meanwhile players from all over the world want to come here just for the money. In many ways we are lucky at Rovers (as are other small clubs) in that we chat to the manager and players and we know that they are just like us, although probably younger, thinner and better at football. But we know they just turn up in their car and walk across the car park. Go to Spurs , Arsenal or infact any of them and watch them arrive in darkened out limos. A few months ago I stayed at the West Ham hotel, the room was a "box" on match days. In the players car park was a Lamborghini and when I asked one of the staff in the breakfast room who did it belong to he said it was Angelo Ogbanna (never heard of him) he said he had two, and would drive an alternative one for each game. That is West Ham, certainly not the richest club in the Prem, but it does show the scale of salaries they are paying, and to be honest it also says that despite all that money, it guarantees you nothing. Meanwhile the England team gets worse.
The lad is moving up in the world, his wiki page said he had an accident in his Smart car in 2008!!
As for England I haven't been interested in them for a while now, all full of egotistical players who see playing for England as a bonus rather than a pinnacle of their career. £50k+ a week and last night many couldn't control a pass from 5 yards, honestly lost for words.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 12:48:30 GMT
I've got a plan for England to win something.
Now we are out of Europe, we should start an 'Islands Cup'. Invite the Isle of Man, the Isle of Wight, Orkneys, Faroe Islands, Channel Islands and some others. I reckon we'd have a good chance to at least reach the semis, and if we get there then anything is possib.........oh, hang on. I see a flaw in my plan......
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Post by baggins on Jun 28, 2016 13:03:07 GMT
I've got a plan for England to win something. Now we are out of Europe, we should start an 'Islands Cup'. Invite the Isle of Man, the Isle of Wight, Orkneys, Faroe Islands, Channel Islands and some others. I reckon we'd have a good chance to at least reach the semis, and if we get there then anything is possib.........oh, hang on. I see a flaw in my plan...... Yea, you said reach the semis.
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