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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 22:00:31 GMT
Just saw police outside the ground, someone reported an ass raping. Lots of witnesses apparently..?
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Post by Somerset Pirate on Nov 22, 2016 22:02:30 GMT
Not too fussed what DC does next, but can we please stop shipping goals? 😟 Otherwise we will very quickly find ourselves at the other end of the Table. 😕
Our Defence seems really weak in L1.😡
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 22, 2016 22:06:35 GMT
No. Name another club that has ever been succesful by making wholesale changes every game? Even the top clubs who have huge squads play their best players every game, unless players are injured. Why do I have to name another club? We have been relatively successful under Clarke and Clarke likes to change his team around.
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Post by aghast on Nov 22, 2016 22:08:41 GMT
Not too fussed what DC does next, but can we please stop shipping goals? 😟 Otherwise we will very quickly find ourselves at the other end of the Table. 😕 Our Defence seems really weak in L1.😡 I think we're suffering a lot from Lockyer's indifferent form this season. He was rock solid in the previous two seasons and perhaps it shows just how much we relied on him.
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Post by yategas78 on Nov 22, 2016 22:10:39 GMT
Even Chesterfield won tonight so they will be up for it on Saturday I can see us well in the bottom half by Christmas but having said that didn't really didn't expect anything else we were always gonna struggle in this League
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 22:13:24 GMT
I think the players have to prove they are good enough for this level or else they can go. no room for sentiment anymore DC has to be ruthless because the last 5 games have shown we are in a downwards spiral.
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Post by Gastafari on Nov 22, 2016 22:14:42 GMT
No. Name another club that has ever been succesful by making wholesale changes every game? Even the top clubs who have huge squads play their best players every game, unless players are injured. Why do I have to name another club? We have been relatively successful under Clarke and Clarke likes to change his team around. Because you asked me if I was joking when I said tinkering has never been succesful. I thought you may have some examples. DC didn't really tinker in The Conference because we didn't have the squad to do it. Last season in League 2 our good form coincided when DC stopped tinkering, our early season form when DC was making lots of changes was poor, we had a similar result to tonights when we got battered at home by Newport, after that DC started playing a settled side week in, week out. So I would argue that DC hasn't been succesful tinkering, his and our success has came when he hasn't.
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Post by oddsongas on Nov 22, 2016 22:15:08 GMT
Very proud of our supporters tonight and I'm happy we didn't boo at the end. We were terrible tonight but they have given us so much in recent years, I'm glad we showed we have their backs.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Nov 22, 2016 22:16:32 GMT
I think the players have to prove they are good enough for this level or else they can go. no room for sentiment anymore DC has to be ruthless because this the last 5 games have shown we are in a downwards spiral. Yes, and looking on the positive side, DC has consistently said the same thing about the players needing to prove themselves, and the January window is only just over a month away. I don't think it's wholesale changes we need, but just a small turnover of players. Can't help thinking that what the squad needs more than anything is a week off to recharge the batteries. Not going to happen any time soon though unless the weather intervenes....
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Post by northsidegas on Nov 22, 2016 22:19:14 GMT
Everyone needs to calm down a little, we gifted them the first 2 goals imo did roos make a save first half? There keeper made 3-4 class saves first half. My questions are, why doesn't lines run at the defence more? When he does it causes the other team to panic and reorganise. Why does Harrison get subbed on instead of Easter? Personal opinion I know but Easter has been there and done it where else Harrison is a conference/league 2 player at best. Gaffers was the best player on that pitch tonight who gave 100% till the end. These games happen now onto the next utg
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 22:21:54 GMT
Was one of those nights that every shot they had went in. Two massive deflections. We didn't need to even change it at HT as despite the score we weren't doing a lot wrong. DC needs to find a partner for Lockyer. Brown and Leadbitter pick themselves, although Leadbitter was poor tonight and his failure to clear led to their first. I think we need a bit of perspective wrt this league. There are some good sides and we need to show them a bit more respect as the gung-ho attitude has resulted in two thrashings in three games. Giving Charlton a bit too much credit I think, definitely not the best side I've seen this season. Worst performance since the Torquay game in 13-14 I think, good news is we have a decent run of games now and we'll be up for it Saturday. Forget it and move on I think, that was a genuinely bad performance (unlike Millwall) but we'll bounce back.
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Post by Strange Gas on Nov 22, 2016 22:23:03 GMT
Was one of those nights that every shot they had went in. Two massive deflections. We didn't need to even change it at HT as despite the score we weren't doing a lot wrong. DC needs to find a partner for Lockyer. Brown and Leadbitter pick themselves, although Leadbitter was poor tonight and his failure to clear led to their first. I think we need a bit of perspective wrt this league. There are some good sides and we need to show them a bit more respect as the gung-ho attitude has resulted in two thrashings in three games. Yep, that sound spot on to me! I'm not sure either Charlton, millwall or mk are top quality, but they are no push over either. And we are too easily punished at the mo, not sure why but something at the back isn't working. And wasted chances abound again tonight.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Nov 22, 2016 22:24:29 GMT
The worrying thing is this form has come out of nowhere, lose Saturday and the pressure will be mounted on us.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 22:24:44 GMT
I think the players have to prove they are good enough for this level or else they can go. no room for sentiment anymore DC has to be ruthless because this the last 5 games have shown we are in a downwards spiral. Yes, and looking on the positive side, DC has consistently said the same thing about the players needing to prove themselves, and the January window is only just over a month away. I don't think it's wholesale changes we need, but just a small turnover of players. Can't help thinking that what the squad needs more than anything is a week off to recharge the batteries. Not going to happen any time soon though unless the weather intervenes.... The thing is though, players don't know if they are coming or going, most of them are getting a rest every other game but is that a benefit or a hindrance to find form? I still don't know what are best team is because I don't see the same players have any sort of run of games to make a fair decision. DC sees them in training every day but its on the pitch vs league 1 opposition that matters. To be honest it was better when we had a smaller squad that picked itself. It seems DC wants to rotate to keep everyone happy and bring players in that havent really done anything to deserve it, just to keep it fresh?! This division is no great shakes, AFC Wimbledon and Rochdale seem to be doing well on limited budgets. Charlton were without 2 of their best players tonight and still made light work of us without playing that well and thats the most disappointing thing for me.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 22, 2016 22:25:11 GMT
Why do I have to name another club? We have been relatively successful under Clarke and Clarke likes to change his team around. Because you asked me if I was joking when I said tinkering has never been succesful. I thought you may have some examples. DC didn't really tinker in The Conference because we didn't have the squad to do it. Last season in League 2 our good form coincided when DC stopped tinkering, our early season form when DC was making lots of changes was poor, we had a similar result to tonights when we got battered at home by Newport, after that DC started playing a settled side week in, week out. So I would argue that DC hasn't been succesful tinkering, his and our success has came when he hasn't. Well, you're just defining tinkering as what happens when we lose, really, aren't you? DC got loads of stick for the changes we made in the run-in last season when we didn't win (Stevenage anyone?). It just seemed like we made fewer changes coz we went on a good run and when we win no one mentions it. I agree he makes more changes now, than he did, probably as you say, coz of squad sizes, but he has always liked to change things around and he was making changes when we were winning in this league (but no one complains then for some reason), and similar changes now we've lost a few. It's not exactly evidence that it doesn't work. It seems to me to be evidence it works about the same.
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Post by dragonfly on Nov 22, 2016 22:27:36 GMT
Was one of those nights that every shot they had went in. Two massive deflections. We didn't need to even change it at HT as despite the score we weren't doing a lot wrong. DC needs to find a partner for Lockyer. Brown and Leadbitter pick themselves, although Leadbitter was poor tonight and his failure to clear led to their first. I think we need a bit of perspective wrt this league. There are some good sides and we need to show them a bit more respect as the gung-ho attitude has resulted in two thrashings in three games. Agreed he did not need to change the team at half-time, wait and see for about 7 minutes and keep one sub back in case of injury which rarely happens but was costly tonight. I said after Millwall - GD matters.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 22:29:57 GMT
I think the players have to prove they are good enough for this level or else they can go. no room for sentiment anymore DC has to be ruthless because this the last 5 games have shown we are in a downwards spiral. Yes, and looking on the positive side, DC has consistently said the same thing about the players needing to prove themselves, and the January window is only just over a month away. I don't think it's wholesale changes we need, but just a small turnover of players. Can't help thinking that what the squad needs more than anything is a week off to recharge the batteries. Not going to happen any time soon though unless the weather intervenes.... I think this is why Darrel tinkers a touch too much,the players have their limits and he is trying to utilise those players in the right game for them. Hence the 'every game is a project' slant. He has learned a lot tonight,about the squad and how most may have reached their limits when playing against a better player/team. Or maybe this was another off night? I didn't go tonight so I'm going blind on this one. If we Go on a winning streak i know I'm wrong. But between the Millwall game and the January transfer window will show what's needed squad wise.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Nov 22, 2016 22:31:33 GMT
Was one of those nights that every shot they had went in. Two massive deflections. We didn't need to even change it at HT as despite the score we weren't doing a lot wrong. DC needs to find a partner for Lockyer. Brown and Leadbitter pick themselves, although Leadbitter was poor tonight and his failure to clear led to their first. I think we need a bit of perspective wrt this league. There are some good sides and we need to show them a bit more respect as the gung-ho attitude has resulted in two thrashings in three games. Giving Charlton a bit too much credit I think, definitely not the best side I've seen this season. Worst performance since the Torquay game in 13-14 I think, good news is we have a decent run of games now and we'll be up for it Saturday. Forget it and move on I think, that was a genuinely bad performance (unlike Millwall) but we'll bounce back. I agree not the best we've seen this season but all out attack, particularly when we're on two a hiding to nothing and down to ten isn't the best idea. It's resulted in two hammerings lately. It obviously wasn't a good performance but I've seen us play far far worse. At least we kept going despite the score, the same as at Millwall.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 22, 2016 22:33:31 GMT
Even Chesterfield won tonight so they will be up for it on Saturday I can see us well in the bottom half by Christmas but having said that didn't really didn't expect anything else we were always gonna struggle in this League Bollocks. We have more fight than that. Wouldn't want you in the trenches with me.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 22, 2016 22:34:50 GMT
I've seen us play far far worse. and win.
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