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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 22, 2016 23:29:36 GMT
To be honest Ellis started the season well I thought. Against Chelsea he was probably our best player on the pitch, not sure what has happened lately though.6
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Post by Blackbeard on Nov 22, 2016 23:38:19 GMT
To be honest Ellis started the season well I thought. Against Chelsea he was probably our best player on the pitch, not sure what has happened lately though.6 Three goals from that much game time is not good enough tho Is it? Gaffney is such a grafter the comparison is quite damning for Ellis . Its goals or graft , he's giving neither and giving the ball away in the process !
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 22, 2016 23:46:14 GMT
To be honest Ellis started the season well I thought. Against Chelsea he was probably our best player on the pitch, not sure what has happened lately though.6 Three goals from that much game time is not good enough tho Is it? Gaffney is such a grafter the comparison is quite damning for Ellis . Its goals or graft , he's giving neither and giving the ball away in the process ! No and Gaffney is a much more reliable player. My review of Ellis's season was to try and balance it up a little bit as feel people have got very fed up of his recent perofmances and just saying that he started it well.
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Post by windy1 on Nov 22, 2016 23:47:01 GMT
One year ago Thursday was at the home game to Stevenage I said that night we would be lucky not to get relegated back to the conference <iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://s1361.photobucket.com/user/terrywindy1/embed/story"></iframe>
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Post by Gastafari on Nov 23, 2016 0:06:46 GMT
This was never going to be a cakewalk and to reach 5th by mid Nov flattered to deceive Look around the squad we have and tell me if we really have the depth of quality to antagonise Scunthorpe and Sheffield? We will have spells like this and this isn't a league we can relax in Chesterfield won away tonight, you can bet they will relish us heading there on sat with this form Get behind the team and let's show them we have the character to support them I think we've got just as good a squad as Scunthorpe and Sheffield United. It's just we dont keep the same team from one game to the next, whereas they do.
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Nov 23, 2016 0:11:55 GMT
I never thought I'd say this but we actually missed Ollie Clarke tonight. 3 of their goals were from shots outside of the box where no-one had closed them down quickly enough. Clarke is normally in that position closing down the angles on a shot.
I also felt that we were quite exposed in the middle even in the first half with eleven men.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 6:59:32 GMT
Hahaha this thread!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 23, 2016 7:17:27 GMT
Magennis looked good for Charlton I thought, real handful for defence. Won most battles with Clarke-Salter (Who I thought was poor). Roos was poor but is being made a scapegoat for an all round bad performance.
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Post by William Wilson on Nov 23, 2016 7:56:04 GMT
Jeeezus criest! Talking about dropping Lockyer is just outright batshit. Our best player in two very poor games and a prospect with quality clearly above our current level. I agree. I know everybody sees things differently, but talk of dropping Lockyer, is madness to me. Brown, Lockyer, Hartley, Leadbitter, look a decent back four, but something clearly isn`t right. We need a decent defensive coach to sort it out.
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Post by Strange Gas on Nov 23, 2016 8:17:43 GMT
OK, morning after . . . Experience at this level (or higher), maturity and mental strength is, I think, what we are seeing clubs like Charlton bring and we lack. It will take time to build, I think we are on it but its not an overnight fix. At 2-0 it seemed harsh, but I think our response was battling but a bit panic stations (from team, manager and crowd) and I don't think that helped us. I am sure DC regretted the Ellis sub and I do think Easter's maturity and ability to work the mid field might have been better, loss of JCS was obviously a big blow but not one we can really account for
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 23, 2016 8:18:22 GMT
Sounds a lot of bollocks to me lets get this over with without letting anymore in!! This annoys me. In an earlier post you're quick to say we'll do well to stay up yet and that you expected us to be down there yet you didn't even attend the bloody game! People are so quick to stick the bloody knife in after a couple of bad performances. I still held a little bit of hope even at 3-0 down which goes to show just how much I believe in this team at the minute. Maybe if you attended the games and seen how well we play most of the time and how good our team spirit is then you would have more belief like me!!!!!!
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 23, 2016 8:21:14 GMT
I never thought I'd say this but we actually missed Ollie Clarke tonight. 3 of their goals were from shots outside of the box where no-one had closed them down quickly enough. Clarke is normally in that position closing down the angles on a shot. I also felt that we were quite exposed in the middle even in the first half with eleven men. I think that supports the view a midfield two of Lines & Sincs isn't good enough, although that's hardly surprising as that partnership wasn't good enough in the Conference or Div 2. Back to the diamond I sense on Saturday!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 23, 2016 8:21:42 GMT
OK, morning after . . . Experience at this level (or higher), maturity and mental strength is, I think, what we are seeing clubs like Charlton bring and we lack. It will take time to build, I think we are on it but its not an overnight fix. At 2-0 it seemed harsh, but I think our response was battling but a bit panic stations (from team, manager and crowd) and I don't think that helped us. I am sure DC regretted the Ellis sub and I do think Easter's maturity and ability to work the mid field might have been better, loss of JCS was obviously a big blow but not one we can really account for I think Ellis needs a break from the team now.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 23, 2016 8:42:41 GMT
IMO Roos has a lot to answer for. I gave him the benefit of the doubt after those few blunders at the start of the season but now I think he's just not good enough. Their keeper tonight made some great saves and I can't recall Roos making a single one - 7 shots 5 goals says it all! The first goal he seemed to stick his hands out but then pull them away as if it was going out for a corner, the third goal he saved the header but somehow the ball still ended up in the net, and his kicking was appalling. Yet again we've found ourselves in the position where he's undroppable because we have no back up. Granted our defence isn't quite good enough (due to the constant changes) so Roos can't take all the blame but gifting goals regularly is going to have a huge impact on us at the end of the season. they had only 5 shots on target - all goals. They certainly put them away but were not the best team at The Mem this season - everything broke for them - deflected goals, Taylor missing great chances and Salty going off injured - a slightly freak result - I'm sure many would say at HT a 1 -1 score was a fair reflection and not 0 - 2. Good luck to them, let's see if we can grind out a result on Saturday - even a draw would be good. Yeah, it was a freak score on balance of play. And they weren't the best team while it was 11v11, even with their three goals.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 8:51:24 GMT
they had only 5 shots on target - all goals. They certainly put them away but were not the best team at The Mem this season - everything broke for them - deflected goals, Taylor missing great chances and Salty going off injured - a slightly freak result - I'm sure many would say at HT a 1 -1 score was a fair reflection and not 0 - 2. Good luck to them, let's see if we can grind out a result on Saturday - even a draw would be good. Yeah, it was a freak score on balance of play. And they weren't the best team while it was 11v11, even with their three goals. Charlton were far and away a better team than us.Man for man they had better players, tall very mobile and athletic centrebacks, skilful midfielders who could all beat their man and strikers who knew when to shoot and did with some success. Compared to us all their players were comfortable on the ball. As far as I am concerned the scoreline did certainly not flatter them.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 23, 2016 9:01:04 GMT
Yeah, it was a freak score on balance of play. And they weren't the best team while it was 11v11, even with their three goals. Charlton were far and away a better team than us.Man for man they had better players, tall very mobile and athletic centrebacks, skilful midfielders who could all beat their man and strikers who knew when to shoot and did with some success. Compared to us all their players were comfortable on the ball. As far as I am concerned the scoreline did certainly not flatter them. They barely had a kick during the first quarter of the game. And they're below us in the league, so your description doesn't make much sense in a wider context. You sound like one of those TV commentators who wax lyrical when a team is three nil up.
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Post by karlos on Nov 23, 2016 9:05:24 GMT
its not about the team that's picked for tonight, its the constant changes taking place, teams by this time of season have now developed and understanding one another, us as a rovers team don't even no whos going to be picked and I'm afraid tonight we can see why theres problems.. too be honest neither do the lads , 1 hour before kick off they find out if there playing , the full team travels and the ones not selected its a bit of a waste of time for them ..DC's logic is completely wrong in my eyes
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 9:09:35 GMT
Charlton were far and away a better team than us.Man for man they had better players, tall very mobile and athletic centrebacks, skilful midfielders who could all beat their man and strikers who knew when to shoot and did with some success. Compared to us all their players were comfortable on the ball. As far as I am concerned the scoreline did certainly not flatter them. They barely had a kick during the first quarter of the game. And they're below us in the league, so your description doesn't make much sense in a wider context. You sound like one of those TV commentators who wax lyrical when a team is three nil up. You must have been one of several on here waxing lyrical about what a great team MK Dons were and how they were in a false position and yet they were below us in the league. The very same MK Dons who were beaten at home last night by the leagues bottom team. I am quite happy for you to believe what you believe but as far as I am concerned Charlton were a far better team than us even when it was 11 v 11.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 23, 2016 9:14:15 GMT
They barely had a kick during the first quarter of the game. And they're below us in the league, so your description doesn't make much sense in a wider context. You sound like one of those TV commentators who wax lyrical when a team is three nil up. You must have been one of several on here waxing lyrical about what a great team MK Dons were and how they were in a false position and yet they were below us in the league. The very same MK Dons who were beaten at home last night by the leagues bottom team. I am quite happy for you to believe what you believe but as far as I am concerned Charlton were a far better team than us even when it was 11 v 11. Erm, no. You're just making stuff up.
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Post by markczgas on Nov 23, 2016 9:59:33 GMT
Jeeezus criest! Talking about dropping Lockyer is just outright batshit. Our best player in two very poor games and a prospect with quality clearly above our current level. I agree. I know everybody sees things differently, but talk of dropping Lockyer, is madness to me. Brown, Lockyer, Hartley, Leadbitter, look a decent back four, but something clearly isn`t right. We need a decent defensive coach to sort it out. They are all decent players but for me they have one big negative point - defensive headers - Leads/Brown in particular, don't win enough and often put them back in the danger area. We also need a commanding CB to partner Locks, someone like Charlton's no.5 - who was a rock in the air. Hartley, I'd only use as cover. I don't think Leads for all his good points should play the whole season at RB. So I hope DC in Jan gets in a CB and a RB. UTG !
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