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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 7:20:55 GMT
So with battles raging in Israel and surrounding areas, Iraq, Syria, and multiple conflicts in Africa, the Holy War is now in full swing. This one will not go away. For all those who question why we get involved abroad in 'other people's problems'. Consider the implications of us being a harbouring country where radicals can freely wander and study prior to causing chaos elsewhere. Now that those British Islamist radical fighters are actively engaged alongside their brothers, it is the DUTY of MI5 to prevent them returning to the UK and Theresa has to strip them of British citizenship. You cannot claim to be British then wage war on Britain and it's allies!!
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Post by inee on Aug 23, 2014 10:23:10 GMT
Difficult one i detest that our soldiers are fighting abroad atm, mostly based on a whim of one of the biggest warmongers of late tony b liar, a lot of the issues in the middle east can be laid at blairs door and what do the world do about it make blair a peace envoy. the operations in afghan, i look at it like this every modern day army has failed over there, some fought fire with fire but were still beaten, and when you have a politician on tv a few years back , saying we cant destroy the poppy fields as the poor farmers rely on it for income, that was the point my mindset changed, why would a uk politician say such things on tv, well think about this the more heroin etc that comes into the country the more addicts we have, which in turn means a larger (undesirable to some). part of society wont vote ,yup keep the oiks down.
The other issue is you cant fight others using our tactics when the otherside fight the way they do, you need to fight fire with fire, the other thing is the way people over here seem brainwashed, as in 10 of us are killed by an ied, nothing said, 2 enemy are shot at close quarters all hell breaks loose in the press, the simple facts are in an engagement out troops should be allowed to shoot to kill with out being hung out to dry by their own press and government.
On those radicals who return from these conflicts after shooting at our troops ,simple line em up and shoot em, this needs to be in the hands of a different agency to MI5 as lets be fair who in their right mind would trust em to secure our safety as our intelligence agency's have a long history of committing crimes to get compromising evidence on their targets, you also have to remember the majority of those classed as terrorists have been funded by us and our allies all was hunky dory until they didn't do something we asked and now are terrorists, again look at the case of someone in bristol,was in a foreign secret police agency who tortured and killed in their own country, but claims asylum over here as he was scared to stay in his own country, so we allow him to stay here, do you think he's suddenly changed and is a good little resident of the uk.
Another point is this although i hate 3 religions with a vengeance i will defend their rights to talk about it , so its a difficult one to deal with. But i have always said if you dont like it here fook off from whence you came, we do bring a lot of this on ourselves as in we accept refuges from everywhere, the reality is a lot of these extremist come over with a free pass from the government ,then people moan about it ,well hello dont let em in in the first place simple.
Did anyone see dispatches this week about nigeria. beatings with sticks, throat cuttings etc funded yet again by us. the point is this is how they live its ingrained into their souls, so how can we expect to be able to fight fairly against, people like that, again yet another case of us giving arms to a religion that will kill it's own and whoever doesnt agree with them, so as i said earlier we bring this upon ourselves. It's not our fight let em kill each other, they have been doing it since they appeared in the 6th century and will continue to do it for ever, there really is no easy answer to this.
I firmly believe our troops should be bought home, our troops are the best in the world heroes each and every one from the guys dishing out bog rolls to the front line troops, they really deserve more respect from the idiots in power, i also feel it's about time we start using alternative fuels as the less oil and gas we buy from the middle east the less money goes towards funding the terrorists( although the west also funds terrorist . so we need to stop meddling in the affairs of other countries, they have their culture and way of life so why should we try to impose our morals etc on them, think about the last bit long and hard, who are we to break up a countries tribal systen,that has worked for them for thousands or hundreds of year ,just because we think its a brutal regime, take iraq as an example we go in kill saddam is it any wonder the country is the way it is now, i suspect more Iraqis have been killed by their own since Saddam was removed that during his reign.
Im trying so hard to hold back on isreal, but i suspect i will get round to it later
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Post by Hugo Admin on Aug 23, 2014 11:34:22 GMT
Personally I dont believe that things like the foley murder occur because of the reasons they say. These extremists want to kill ALL europeans. Thats called being a Nazi. I dont think we should ever get involved unless directly provoked or fighting Nazis. f**k em all.
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Post by inee on Aug 23, 2014 12:24:18 GMT
Just looked up foley and came across this www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/james-foley-beheading-met-police-warn-public-watching-murder-video-could-be-criminal-offence-9681316.htmlSeems our oh so wonderful protectors, are trying to hide away the savagery of what's occurring, what i mean by that is to threten people with a terrorism charge for viewing what happened is another sickening way of saying yes these terrorists are vile but as usual we will protect them with our own terrorism laws, if the video appeared on the news then maybe just maybe some of the wishy washy, people out there would start facing up to whats really happening. Wonder how close we are to having an oppressive law like the american patriot act, bought in over here by the back door im sure we are almost there it wont be long Long live UK ltd or whatever company the country is registers as this year
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 20:23:43 GMT
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Holy WAR.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 8:48:22 GMT
tinyurl.com is your friend xxx
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 13:26:47 GMT
How does that work then? I am a bit of a biff on these computer thingies...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 13:30:07 GMT
Threat level to UK now SEVERE. How hard would it have been to nab ALL of those that left the UK approx 6 months ago to return now? Given them a grilling on their whereabouts and occupations whilst away? Tagged them and put them on good behaviour or something? Why does it seem so easy to be a massive threat to the British public?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 18:21:28 GMT
How does that work then? I am a bit of a biff on these computer thingies... Tinyurl allows you to copy a long address like you posted into a box on its website. You then click a button and a very short address is given in return. It takes you to the same place on the internet but is much easier for people to use as a link on forums and pm's.
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Holy WAR.
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Post by Hugo Admin on Aug 30, 2014 18:47:10 GMT
Or you can use the link insert tool on the desktop version of GasChat and change the link to say whatever you like.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 22:02:52 GMT
Ooooh, every day IS a school day.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 22:04:24 GMT
If you have a scrap at a game or defend yourself against a raging mob, you run the risk of having to submit your passport. There seems to be a bit of a stink kicking up about the terror clan losing their passports though. How can this be?
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Post by inee on Sept 2, 2014 7:37:36 GMT
Said the same thing to wendy last eve, she mentioned it and my first thought was wait for the bandwagon jumpers to start on human rights etc. but you make a good point about people having a row at a game, the reason is that people see football fans as hooligans and thugs, but the terrorists are dear little cuddly religious maniacs, who arnt dangerous are they, incidently noticed armed police at barracks not i or two but shedloads of em, it didnt look like an exercise, so perhaps the threat level in bristol is extreemly high and we arnt being told
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 19:34:33 GMT
British people getting their heads chopped off now then. Gives the big companies a chance to make some money from another war. What do these Simons want the consequences to be exactly? There are small time compared to AQ and are making all decent muslim people look bad.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 19:36:17 GMT
Cool....Simons gets through the auto correct! Lol p155 off Hugo you f**k.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 20:23:26 GMT
Cool....Simons gets through the auto correct! Lol p155 off Hugo you Simon. Seems to be working just fine to me....... trolololol
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 8:22:48 GMT
Got me there. Finally!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2014 14:44:08 GMT
So, we have the US and the British bombing ISIS, so in fact they are supporting Assad in Syria, who last year they wanted to bomb. They are using airbases in Turkey. Turkey, a member of NATO and therefore an ally, are not bombing ISIS. They prefer to bomb the Kurds. Turkey has a long standing war with the Kurds, so their attitude is that 'my enemies enemy are my friends". So, NATO are in fact bombing both ISIS and the Kurds!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 17:00:23 GMT
Nothing a nuclear submarine couldn't sort out in 45 minutes. Turn the desert to glass.
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Post by inee on Oct 23, 2014 17:37:59 GMT
or release a few neutron bombs, people gone minimal damage to infrastructure, drugs trade controlled by allied governments, cool as
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