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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 4, 2017 18:25:03 GMT
Swindon were tight enough to charge us twice to get watch one match so what on earth makes you think that hey will be splashing the cash? Even so, what on earth makes you think a striker is a priority? Your bloody name is "Gaffers" so I'm assuming you rate him? And then we have Taylor. Added to the fact Bogle would cost more than we are probably willing to spend at this moment. I agree with the person above about this being a nonsense thread. Do yourself a fsvour and look at the table. There are two colums, "GF" and "GA". Try and work out what they stand for. Assuming Bogle can play alongside MT wouldn't that be a far better strike force than with the none scoring Gaffney or Harrison? Assuming we are aiming for the Championship then we need to build a squad which can survive there but unless Harrison can step up a few gears then at some point we will to improve the front line.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 18:27:16 GMT
Sunshine
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Good times
Bogle
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Post by gasincider on Jan 4, 2017 18:28:09 GMT
Assuming the money is there of course we should go for Bogle. Nonsense to say we don't need to improve all aspects of the team. But defence is still priority as well as a goalkeeper of course.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 4, 2017 18:42:23 GMT
Have they shaken hands on the deal? If so, done deal...... Hand shakes mean nothing unless they're watertight.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jan 4, 2017 19:16:03 GMT
When we had no money we signed players like bogle (lambert, hayles). If we are being outspent by swindon then i would start to worry.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 4, 2017 19:17:08 GMT
Swindon were tight enough to charge us twice to get watch one match so what on earth makes you think that hey will be splashing the cash? Even so, what on earth makes you think a striker is a priority? Your bloody name is "Gaffers" so I'm assuming you rate him? And then we have Taylor. Added to the fact Bogle would cost more than we are probably willing to spend at this moment. I agree with the person above about this being a nonsense thread. Do yourself a fsvour and look at the table. There are two colums, "GF" and "GA". Try and work out what they stand for. Assuming Bogle can play alongside MT wouldn't that be a far better strike force than with the none scoring Gaffney or Harrison? Assuming we are aiming for the Championship then we need to build a squad which can survive there but unless Harrison can step up a few gears then at some point we will to improve the front line. I'm not convinced Bogle and Taylor would be a better partnership to be honest as they are supposed to be more similar types of strikers. And even if it was better then it is gonnna cost us a whole heap of money with problems still defensively. In fact surely Gaffney would be a better striker to play as a defensive option from set pieces etc?!?! Anyway it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out we have far bigger priorities than our strikeforce. There is no need to spend the money willy nilly right now. Let's be sensible and just have a slight investment in goal/defence and maybe even in midfield but definitely not upfront! Take a look at the table topper. GF " Goals For" or GS = "Goals scored". I think you will find we are one of the highest in this column.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 4, 2017 19:38:43 GMT
Assuming Bogle can play alongside MT wouldn't that be a far better strike force than with the none scoring Gaffney or Harrison? Assuming we are aiming for the Championship then we need to build a squad which can survive there but unless Harrison can step up a few gears then at some point we will to improve the front line. I'm not convinced Bogle and Taylor would be a better partnership to be honest as they are supposed to be more similar types of strikers. And even if it was better then it is gonnna cost us a whole heap of money with problems still defensively. In fact surely Gaffney would be a better striker to play as a defensive option from set pieces etc?!?! Anyway it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out we have far bigger priorities than our strikeforce. There is no need to spend the money willy nilly right now. Let's be sensible and just have a slight investment in goal/defence and maybe even in midfield but definitely not upfront! Take a look at the table topper. GF " Goals For" or GS = "Goals scored". I think you will find we are one of the highest in this column. I think you missed the point, I'm saying if we're building a team capable of surviving in Div 1 eventually then Gaffney's simply not good enough unless he can improve his goals to games ratio, if you say Bogle is in the same mould as MT then he's clearly not what we want but we will need somebody eventually if we are to mount a serious challenge for promotion/stay in the Championship.
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Post by aghast on Jan 4, 2017 20:49:10 GMT
I'm not convinced Bogle and Taylor would be a better partnership to be honest as they are supposed to be more similar types of strikers. And even if it was better then it is gonnna cost us a whole heap of money with problems still defensively. In fact surely Gaffney would be a better striker to play as a defensive option from set pieces etc?!?! Anyway it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out we have far bigger priorities than our strikeforce. There is no need to spend the money willy nilly right now. Let's be sensible and just have a slight investment in goal/defence and maybe even in midfield but definitely not upfront! Take a look at the table topper. GF " Goals For" or GS = "Goals scored". I think you will find we are one of the highest in this column. I think you missed the point, I'm saying if we're building a team capable of surviving in Div 1 eventually then Gaffney's simply not good enough unless he can improve his goals to games ratio, if you say Bogle is in the same mould as MT then he's clearly not what we want but we will need somebody eventually if we are to mount a serious challenge for promotion/stay in the Championship. If Bogle is in the same mould as Matty Taylor, who will no doubt be off to pastures new very soon, then isn't he exactly what we want? As well as another to replace Gaffney? I'd stick with Harrison myself.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 4, 2017 20:54:57 GMT
I think you missed the point, I'm saying if we're building a team capable of surviving in Div 1 eventually then Gaffney's simply not good enough unless he can improve his goals to games ratio, if you say Bogle is in the same mould as MT then he's clearly not what we want but we will need somebody eventually if we are to mount a serious challenge for promotion/stay in the Championship. If Bogle is in the same mould as Matty Taylor, who will no doubt be off to pastures new very soon, then isn't he exactly what we want? As well as another to replace Gaffney? I'd stick with Harrison myself. Why is there no doubt he is off to pastures new? I expected him to go in the summer more than I do now. As things stand we shouldn't be thinking about signing a new striker.
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Post by aghast on Jan 4, 2017 20:58:03 GMT
If Bogle is in the same mould as Matty Taylor, who will no doubt be off to pastures new very soon, then isn't he exactly what we want? As well as another to replace Gaffney? I'd stick with Harrison myself. Why is there no doubt he is off to pastures new? I expected him to go in the summer more than I do now. As things stand we shouldn't be thinking about signing a new striker. I read it in some local paper.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 21:29:50 GMT
Assuming Bogle can play alongside MT wouldn't that be a far better strike force than with the none scoring Gaffney or Harrison? Assuming we are aiming for the Championship then we need to build a squad which can survive there but unless Harrison can step up a few gears then at some point we will to improve the front line. I'm not convinced Bogle and Taylor would be a better partnership to be honest as they are supposed to be more similar types of strikers. And even if it was better then it is gonnna cost us a whole heap of money with problems still defensively. In fact surely Gaffney would be a better striker to play as a defensive option from set pieces etc?!?! Anyway it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out we have far bigger priorities than our strikeforce. There is no need to spend the money willy nilly right now. Let's be sensible and just have a slight investment in goal/defence and maybe even in midfield but definitely not upfront! Take a look at the table topper. GF " Goals For" or GS = "Goals scored". I think you will find we are one of the highest in this column. Taylor/Bogle are completely different as far as I've seen.Taylor gets most of his goals from inside the 6 yard box and links the play,and Bogle looks like he's a one man show with lots of spectacular long range goals and no link up play.Ive only seen him on the telly of course but that seems to be the general concesus on the fish forum.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 4, 2017 21:47:20 GMT
If Bogle is in the same mould as Matty Taylor, who will no doubt be off to pastures new very soon, then isn't he exactly what we want? As well as another to replace Gaffney? I'd stick with Harrison myself. Why is there no doubt he is off to pastures new? I expected him to go in the summer more than I do now. As things stand we shouldn't be thinking about signing a new striker. Why not, this time last season we signed Fallon & McBurnie if we needed those in Div 2 surely we also need at least one more striker in Div 1, if I was DC, I'd sign a goalie, a CB, a CM and a CF.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 4, 2017 21:50:13 GMT
Why is there no doubt he is off to pastures new? I expected him to go in the summer more than I do now. As things stand we shouldn't be thinking about signing a new striker. Why not, this time last season we signed Fallon & McBurnie if we needed those in Div 2 surely we also need at least one more striker in Div 1, if I was DC, I'd sign a goalie, a CB, a CM and a CF. We got James now though and Bodin is in better form than then. I don't think we are in such a rush to go up from thia league. Long term going up this season may not be a good thing for us.
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Post by gasincider on Jan 4, 2017 22:02:30 GMT
Why not, this time last season we signed Fallon & McBurnie if we needed those in Div 2 surely we also need at least one more striker in Div 1, if I was DC, I'd sign a goalie, a CB, a CM and a CF. We got James now though and Bodin is in better form than then. I don't think we are in such a rush to go up from thia league. Long term going up this season may not be a good thing for us. Bodin has had a good second half of one game recently I think you mean. And you assume we are in no hurry to collect £6m per season for being in the championship. Thank goodness you dont own the club. The longer we are not there, the bigger the gap will grow.
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Post by gaffers on Jan 4, 2017 22:03:49 GMT
Why not, this time last season we signed Fallon & McBurnie if we needed those in Div 2 surely we also need at least one more striker in Div 1, if I was DC, I'd sign a goalie, a CB, a CM and a CF. We got James now though and Bodin is in better form than then. I don't think we are in such a rush to go up from thia league. Long term going up this season may not be a good thing for us. Luke James has scored 19 goals in 90 games for Hartlepool??? Yeah your right being promoted would be a terrible thing..all that money from going up would be really bad and attracting more players to club being a championship club..we would be much better off showing we're a club that's happy to linger in league one
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Post by chilly1883 on Jan 4, 2017 22:07:41 GMT
Talking about the championship with this team?? We'd get battered every week, let's keep it real👍
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Post by LJG on Jan 4, 2017 22:08:02 GMT
We got James now though and Bodin is in better form than then. I don't think we are in such a rush to go up from thia league. Long term going up this season may not be a good thing for us. Luke James has scored 19 goals in 90 games for Hartlepool??? Yeah your right being promoted would be a terrible thing..all that money from going up would be really bad and attracting more players to club being a championship club..we would be much better off showing we're a club that's happy to linger in league one And when we're getting our asses smashed off us every week by the Premier league parachute payment boys?
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Post by gaffers on Jan 4, 2017 22:08:18 GMT
Why not, this time last season we signed Fallon & McBurnie if we needed those in Div 2 surely we also need at least one more striker in Div 1, if I was DC, I'd sign a goalie, a CB, a CM and a CF. We got James now though and Bodin is in better form than then. I don't think we are in such a rush to go up from thia league. Long term going up this season may not be a good thing for us. If we went up one season and come straight down we would have all those gate reciepts and £6 million from the league?
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Post by gasincider on Jan 4, 2017 23:28:19 GMT
Talking about the championship with this team?? We'd get battered every week, let's keep it real👍 No. It's what I keep saying about evolution. Personally I think we would need to pretty much build a new side. So borrow a couple that we can sign in the summer based on how they get on in the remainder of this season, then assuming we have gone up, we could buy a few more decent prospects. That would be half a new team by next season. And this would be without any additional capital from our owner. Burton didn't flinch about going up, and they are smaller than us, or should I say were. If we come back down, we have at least tried. If you don't improve you only go one way. Remember all those near misses in league 2 a few years back. Look where we ended up.
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 4, 2017 23:42:22 GMT
We're mid table and unlikely to go up. Whilst I can see why those who say going up could be unwise in that we would find it hard to survive you really can't turn promotion down. Were we to go up then we would have had a fantastic second half of the season and players would have grown. Get a few on loan as gasincider says and buy a few and we would be competitive. Ok we might come down but we would have had the finance from that season and could build for the future. By that time perhaps other infrastructures such as new ground, training facilities and merchandising would have been advanced to grow the club. Whatever, if we need a win in the last match against Millwall and get one in the last five minutes I bet no fans will be saying this is a bad thing!! We just have to hope that DC and the team do the business on the pitch by taking one match at a time and Wael and co do the business off the pitch regarding the club. But let's be honest, it's unlikely to happen with this team because I'm sure there are at least 6 better reams than us at the moment and we would need a few players this window and I don't think it's going to happen this year. But mid table will be great after the two years we've had. We really have to take every opportunity to grow the club however it comes and if the chance of going up comes we have to try and take it. COYB! UTG!
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