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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 14:25:47 GMT
Lee brown, got a feeling that if he lost weight he would be a lot better.
Lee B has stamina and has a high level of fitness but he is quite muscular and stocky and if he took half a stone or a stone off I bet he would be quick enough to get round people more. You need pace in his position as you play up through the leagues.
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Post by baggins on Jan 29, 2017 14:32:26 GMT
Lee brown, got a feeling that if he lost weight he would be a lot better. Lee B has stamina and has a high level of fitness but he is quite muscular and stocky and if he took half a stone or a stone off I bet he would be quick enough to get round people more. You need pace in his position as you play up through the leagues. Yea Browner you fat git, lose some weight.
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Post by mftc on Jan 29, 2017 15:10:18 GMT
I thought ref was very poor. I don't have a problem with letting a game flow there is the right time to do it.
He definitely indicated No 7 (Gladwin?) would be booked after he allowed Rovers to play on after a bad foul, but when the ball next went out of play he just seemed to forget!
Brophy had one of the worst dives of the season by the touch line and was given warning, then seconds later tripped Sinclair of the ball, and was talked to by the ref again. Seemed far too lenient.
He also gave two very bad play on decisions. Ollie C was pulled back, was waved play on but by then had no space and his cross was blocked (where was the advantage?) and in the second half we broke, Brown was fouled (ref played on) and Matty was on his own against three players, so lost possession.
Hopefully Moore gets game time on Tuesday as he seems to have lost all confidence. Hopefully he doesn't read this forum after getting slated for the third goal last week and letting it affect him. He has shown in glimpses there is a good player there. Maybe like Hinton, he will be a revaluation in his second season?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 15:19:09 GMT
I thought ref was very poor. I don't have a problem with letting a game flow there is the right time to do it. He definitely indicated No 7 (Gladwin?) would be booked after he allowed Rovers to play on after a bad foul, but when the ball next went out of play he just seemed to forget! Brophy had one of the worst dives of the season by the touch line and was given warning, then seconds later tripped Sinclair of the ball, and was talked to by the ref again. Seemed far too lenient. He also gave two very bad play on decisions. Ollie C was pulled back, was waved play on but by then had no space and his cross was blocked (where was the advantage?) and in the second half we broke, Brown was fouled (ref played on) and Matty was on his own against three players, so lost possession. Hopefully Moore gets game time on Tuesday as he seems to have lost all confidence. Hopefully he doesn't read this forum after getting slated for the third goal last week and letting it affect him. He has shown in glimpses there is a good player there. Maybe like Hinton, he will be a revaluation in his second season? I thought the ref had a good game. As they say, its all about opinions.
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Post by yategas78 on Jan 29, 2017 15:58:04 GMT
If only Danny Leadbetter could cross the ball consistently what a player he could be!!
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jan 29, 2017 16:17:49 GMT
I do agree with althepirate in a sense. Not a criticism of stevek's reports but people's reports and player ratings in general. I mean this in the sense that people's opinions tend to be 'when we win, we've played well and when we lose we haven't'. That isn't always the case.
If we'd have played the exact same yesterday but OC's strikes had've gone gone in and Sweeney's header had've gone in, we could've easily won 4-0 and I bet every players ratings would've gone up by 1 or 2 in most people's eyes because of the scoreline. Likewise, if Bodin hadn't of scored that screamer and Swindon had've took one of theirs chances, we would've lost and everyone would be saying 'were sh**'.
A couple of times this season we have been on top away from home but have lost the game and everyone says we played dreadful. Games are one and lost in a moment, but the performance is for 90 minutes. I wish people would base their reports and player ratings on the whole performance rather than the result. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 16:29:17 GMT
I thought ref was very poor. I don't have a problem with letting a game flow there is the right time to do it. He definitely indicated No 7 (Gladwin?) would be booked after he allowed Rovers to play on after a bad foul, but when the ball next went out of play he just seemed to forget! Brophy had one of the worst dives of the season by the touch line and was given warning, then seconds later tripped Sinclair of the ball, and was talked to by the ref again. Seemed far too lenient. He also gave two very bad play on decisions. Ollie C was pulled back, was waved play on but by then had no space and his cross was blocked (where was the advantage?) and in the second half we broke, Brown was fouled (ref played on) and Matty was on his own against three players, so lost possession. Hopefully Moore gets game time on Tuesday as he seems to have lost all confidence. Hopefully he doesn't read this forum after getting slated for the third goal last week and letting it affect him. He has shown in glimpses there is a good player there. Maybe like Hinton, he will be a revaluation in his second season? I thought the ref had a good game. As they say, its all about opinions. . You're both right I was listening to the radio and brookman and co thought the ref was pretty good but far to leniant on swinedon, think it was Thompson? Or whoever it was committed about 4 fouls before finally getting a deserved yellow
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Post by althepirate on Jan 29, 2017 16:33:51 GMT
I do agree with althepirate in a sense. Not a criticism of stevek's reports but people's reports and player ratings in general. I mean this in the sense that people's opinions tend to be 'when we win, we've played well and when we lose we haven't'. That isn't always the case. If we'd have played the exact same yesterday but OC's strikes had've gone gone in and Sweeney's header had've gone in, we could've easily won 4-0 and I bet every players ratings would've gone up by 1 or 2 in most people's eyes because of the scoreline. Likewise, if Bodin hadn't of scored that screamer and Swindon had've took one of theirs chances, we would've lost and everyone would be saying 'were sh**'. A couple of times this season we have been on top away from home but have lost the game and everyone says we played dreadful. Games are one and lost in a moment, but the performance is for 90 minutes. I wish people would base their reports and player ratings on the whole performance rather than the result. UTG! You probably expressed it better than me.
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Post by cheese4ead on Jan 29, 2017 16:39:35 GMT
This is a great thread full of constructive debate from all contributors. That is sadly not always the case. I always look forward to Stevek's report and wether I agree with everything or not it's a good read. I like the point mentioned that he sticks his neck out with his opinions and, first and foremost, is bothered to create it for our reading pleasure in the first place. I would agree that Steves reports have certain trends that are amusing but we all do it. We all have favourites and bad guys and see the game in our own way. My opportunity to thank you Steve and keep up the good work. Just go easy on the beard for me π
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jan 29, 2017 16:43:41 GMT
This is a great thread full of constructive debate from all contributors. That is sadly not always the case. I always look forward to Stevek's report and wether I agree with everything or not it's a good read. I like the point mentioned that he sticks his neck out with his opinions and, first and foremost, is bothered to create it for our reading pleasure in the first place. I would agree that Steves reports have certain trends that are amusing but we all do it. We all have favourites and bad guys and see the game in our own way. My opportunity to thank you Steve and keep up the good work. Just go easy on the beard for me π Yes like I say that wasn't a dig at stevek particularly. As I don't get to a lot of games I always appreciate his reports as a lot of people tend to agree with most of what he says. I was just trying to say that it frustrates me how people can see a whole performance differently because it is won and lost in a single moment. UTG!
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jan 29, 2017 16:45:25 GMT
It's quite amusing how much stick Stevek192 gets for his comprehensive match reports. Most of us have someone near us in the ground who's views differ from our own. If you dont like Steves reports I suggest you do one of your own, if you can be bothered. I agree. I don't get this forsight v hindsight thing either. People have been writing match reports for a century or more. It's a perfectly valid and informative thing to do. I very often disagree with aspects of Steve's report, but that's not the point. I respect his views as he is a regular witness. He provides a really useful source, especially if you haven't attended the game in question, as he goes into so much more detail than the reports that appear in the local and national media.
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Post by knowall on Jan 29, 2017 16:50:00 GMT
I have little respect for this report. Why? It's because it's based around the score. If the score had been 0-1 and we had played exactly the same Steve would have slagged off DC for making all the wrong decisions. There was a hint of that with his first paragraph. The report would have said 'why didn't he play all the new players,why play Sinclair forward etc.' I wish people who write reports had the courage to continue with their negativity in the face of success to prove themselves wrong. Anyone can write about the past, predicting the future is the difficult bit. Go on then - you write a report - I find the reports by stevek usually very fair as was this one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 16:53:48 GMT
It's quite amusing how much stick Stevek192 gets for his comprehensive match reports. Most of us have someone near us in the ground who's views differ from our own. If you dont like Steves reports I suggest you do one of your own, if you can be bothered. I agree. I don't get this forsight v hindsight thing either. People have been writing match reports for a century or more. It's a perfectly valid and informative thing to do. I very often disagree with aspects of Steve's report, but that's not the point. I respect his views as he is a regular witness. He provides a really useful source, especially if you haven't attended the game in question, as he goes into so much more detail than the reports that appear in the local and national media. How can one man watch 11 positions for 90 mins? If browner is making a run down the left wing, how can he know what Leadbitter is up on the right? When Sinclair was chasing the ball down in swindons half, how could he know what Ollie Clarke was up to? We all go to the games, honestly, how many of you can keep an eye on all of our players for the full 90 mins?
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Post by knowall on Jan 29, 2017 17:00:02 GMT
This is a great thread full of constructive debate from all contributors. That is sadly not always the case. I always look forward to Stevek's report and wether I agree with everything or not it's a good read. I like the point mentioned that he sticks his neck out with his opinions and, first and foremost, is bothered to create it for our reading pleasure in the first place. I would agree that Steves reports have certain trends that are amusing but we all do it. We all have favourites and bad guys and see the game in our own way. My opportunity to thank you Steve and keep up the good work. Just go easy on the beard for me π Yes like I say that wasn't a dig at stevek particularly. As I don't get to a lot of games I always appreciate his reports as a lot of people tend to agree with most of what he says. I was just trying to say that it frustrates me how people can see a whole performance differently because it is won and lost in a single moment. UTG! we all sit or stand in different parts of the stadium and have varying views of the pitch and players which is one reason and we all have different players we prefer Sinclair for instant is non stop action whereas Easter is mostly calm and more accurate - Gasheads tend to prefer players like Sinclair who run and run ( and run and run)
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jan 29, 2017 17:01:18 GMT
I agree. I don't get this forsight v hindsight thing either. People have been writing match reports for a century or more. It's a perfectly valid and informative thing to do. I very often disagree with aspects of Steve's report, but that's not the point. I respect his views as he is a regular witness. He provides a really useful source, especially if you haven't attended the game in question, as he goes into so much more detail than the reports that appear in the local and national media. How can one man watch 11 positions for 90 mins? If browner is making a run down the left wing, how can he know what Leadbitter is up on the right? When Sinclair was chasing the ball down in swindons half, how could he know what Ollie Clarke was up to? We all go to the games, honestly, how many of you canΒ keep an eye on all of our players for the full 90 mins? Eh? So you have no respect for any match reports in general, then? Very often in the local and national media they come with player ratings and comments. It's very possible to form an opinion of multiple players over 90 minutes, in my opinion. Especially when you watch these players week-in, week-out.
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Post by justin blue on Jan 29, 2017 17:02:30 GMT
I agree. I don't get this forsight v hindsight thing either. People have been writing match reports for a century or more. It's a perfectly valid and informative thing to do. I very often disagree with aspects of Steve's report, but that's not the point. I respect his views as he is a regular witness. He provides a really useful source, especially if you haven't attended the game in question, as he goes into so much more detail than the reports that appear in the local and national media. How can one man watch 11 positions for 90 mins? If browner is making a run down the left wing, how can he know what Leadbitter is up on the right? When Sinclair was chasing the ball down in swindons half, how could he know what Ollie Clarke was up to? We all go to the games, honestly, how many of you can keep an eye on all of our players for the full 90 mins? SteveK can
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 17:14:06 GMT
How can one man watch 11 positions for 90 mins? If browner is making a run down the left wing, how can he know what Leadbitter is up on the right? When Sinclair was chasing the ball down in swindons half, how could he know what Ollie Clarke was up to? We all go to the games, honestly, how many of you can keep an eye on all of our players for the full 90 mins? Eh? So you have no respect for any match reports in general, then? Very often in the local and national media they come with player ratings and comments. It's very possible to form an opinion of multiple players over 90 minutes, in my opinion. Especially when you watch these players week-in, week-out. What has it got to do if you watch these players week in & week out? Its a different team every single week! Each game is different. Losing 4-1 away to Charlton, is totally irreverent to yesterdays game. Can you keep an eye on 11 players for 90 mins? I know I cant.
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 29, 2017 17:15:20 GMT
Steve's reports are very good even if you agree or disagree with the ratings. opinions will always be different but they are a good read esp if you haven't been able to make the match. Also, it helps build up a picture over a season of how players are doing. Years ago you used to get lengthy reports in local papers but I don't know if the EP does that now, not being in Bristol. Their online coverage is poor so to read Steves reports from a players point of view is valuable imo. You don't have to agree of course!! Related to this but not purely about Rovers is the thought that whatever arguments and melt downs occur on here this forum as well as our other one (BRIF) is of much higher quality than the forums of other teams in this league. And Steves reports and the discussions it creates are a reason for this. We do get the occasional abusive stuff but overall there are lots of posters whose views I enjoy reading. I look at some of the other forums and some are awful and some are inhabited by posters with a vocabulary of about 10 words! There are lots of good posts and posters on here and on our other one that you don't get elsewhere! And also, it must take Steve an hour at least to write the report and I for one am grateful that he gives up his time to do so. No we don't always agree but I remain grateful he does it, keep it up Steve! UTG!
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Post by knowall on Jan 29, 2017 17:17:48 GMT
Another first class report - what must be said is the business DC has done this month seems spot on - both Sweeney and Lumley were excellent yesterday and if Burn lives up to his reputation we are in for a good run-in.
I think Brown is not playing well (by his standards) but is still as good as most in the division. People need to remember - he has not had a rest for three years!! Tom was better and certainly needs a big no nonsense player along side ( I thought that was evident when Macca played in the last home match.}
What really bugs me is why Leadbitter, as he approaches the opposition penalty area, never has a shot and never moves inside but always seems to push the ball as wide as possible before crossing
Keep writing the reports Steve - always worth reading and debating.
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Post by You can call me Al. on Jan 29, 2017 17:18:11 GMT
Steve K is the only forum user who puts his considered views on here after every match and he does so in a lengthy, well thought out way. Do we all disagree sometimes with what he has to say - of course we do, but everyone has the right to put their own thoughts down too and of course to debate some of his opinions.
I think his post match thoughts are well appreciated by the majority on here.
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