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Post by Feeling The Blues on Aug 26, 2014 18:24:10 GMT
One of our strengths was MP Charlotte Leslie. The question is, as i asked months ago, Was she in it for Bristol and Bristol Rovers or Sainsburys? At the time, she could take the side of both gaining publicity for herself and knocking her political opponents at the same time. Her next move will be interesting. There is no political mileage in championing the cause of Sainsburys and their ilk is there? In any case she was the person raising Sainsburys stalling (intentions to pull out as she knew but we didn't) at Prime Ministers Question Time. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 18:32:15 GMT
One of our strengths was MP Charlotte Leslie. The question is, as i asked months ago, Was she in it for Bristol and Bristol Rovers or Sainsburys? At the time, she could take the side of both gaining publicity for herself and knocking her political opponents at the same time. Her next move will be interesting. There is no political mileage in championing the cause of Sainsburys and their ilk is there? In any case she was the person raising Sainsburys stalling (intentions to pull out as she knew but we didn't) at Prime Ministers Question Time. But Lord Sainsbury is a big contributor to the party. As JTS says, will be interested in the next move BTW Did anyone else notice the date on the writ, top right hand side ? |
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Aug 26, 2014 18:32:39 GMT
One of our strengths was MP Charlotte Leslie. The question is, as i asked months ago, Was she in it for Bristol and Bristol Rovers or Sainsburys? At the time, she could take the side of both gaining publicity for herself and knocking her political opponents at the same time. Her next move will be interesting. There is no political mileage in championing the cause of Sainsburys and their ilk is there? In any case she was the person raising Sainsburys stalling (intentions to pull out as she knew but we didn't) at Prime Ministers Question Time. She did indeed, and it received a muted/flat response. She will (in my opinion) do what her political career needs, she's on the way up the Politaical ladder and with a demand for female ministers in the current climate she's getting herself in pole position - she'll do as Cameron says! This is politics my friend and even worse an Election is round the corner. (Cough, cough, Lord Sainsbury Conservative Party Peer Cough cough) The Sainsbury's make large donations to both the Conservatives and Labour Party when neccessary, they don't do it out of generosity, it buys them favour. All my opinions of course. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 18:36:14 GMT
Dancing with the devil is a great analogy but we have staggered about with Lucifer in our arms for a while. On finding the dark corner of the dance floor (near the big bass speaker) we went in for the kill and 'dapped our hand on it' so to speak. On recieving a slap to the face maybe we should let said devil walk away within reason. Persuing this one for too long will kill us and i cant help thinking thats J S Sainsbury's plan.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 18:36:32 GMT
There is no political mileage in championing the cause of Sainsburys and their ilk is there? In any case she was the person raising Sainsburys stalling (intentions to pull out as she knew but we didn't) at Prime Ministers Question Time. She did indeed, and it received a muted/flat response. She will (in my opinion) do what her political career needs, she's on the way up the Politaical ladder and with a demand for female ministers in the current climate she's getting herself in pole position - she'll do as Cameron says! This is politics my friend and even worse an Election is round the corner. (Cough, cough, Lord Sainsbury Conservative Party Peer Cough cough) The Sainsbury's make large donations to both the Conservatives and Labour Party when neccessary, they don't do it out of generosity, it buys them favour. All my opinions of course. That my friend is the reality of it. This is not a big fish but a corporate Whale we are dealing with here. Got to admit, I am actually shaking at this news. It has really and very badly affected me. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 26, 2014 18:37:43 GMT
One question that comes to mind :-
If Sainsbury new they wanted to pull out in February why did they not go public with this ?
BTW the court case is scheduled for Nov 2014
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Aug 26, 2014 18:41:20 GMT
One question that comes to mind :- If Sainsbury new they wanted to pull out in February why did they not go public with this ? BTW the court case is scheduled for Nov 2014 In fairness, why should they, their in no rush! Now if they actually were going forward with it...WOW Rush rush lets get this thing that's gonna make us further millions built! Sadly the proof is in the pudding. |
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Post by socrates on Aug 26, 2014 18:41:42 GMT
What are the chances that UWE could help fund the build along with our compensation? Smaller scale? I'd prefer a 12000 capacity stadium which could then be expanded to 20,000 should we ever get in the prem ( highly unlikely). We'd have a stadium that would be cheaper to run and we'd create a better atmosphere too. I know the UWE is needed to bring the club forward and so on but I've always hated the thought of a few thousand of us rattling around inside a 20,000 capacity stadium. Even in the conference it would be half full and if we got back into the league we could get 8-10000 every week if we we're run properly and successful. That would be great in a 12,000 capacity stadium. I really hope that if everything falls through which it looks it is then we can come up with something. I'd be up for redeveloping the Mem stand by stand too. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 26, 2014 18:43:02 GMT
One question that comes to mind :- If Sainsbury new they wanted to pull out in February why did they not go public with this ? BTW the court case is scheduled for Nov 2014 In fairness, why should they, their in no rush! Now if they actually were going forward with it...WOW Rush rush lets get this thing that's gonna make us further millions built! Sadly the proof is in the pudding. So using your argument Jon, why should Nick Hicks go public about progress ?? |
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Post by lulworthgas on Aug 26, 2014 18:43:19 GMT
She did indeed, and it received a muted/flat response. She will (in my opinion) do what her political career needs, she's on the way up the Politaical ladder and with a demand for female ministers in the current climate she's getting herself in pole position - she'll do as Cameron says! This is politics my friend and even worse an Election is round the corner. (Cough, cough, Lord Sainsbury Conservative Party Peer Cough cough) The Sainsbury's make large donations to both the Conservatives and Labour Party when neccessary, they don't do it out of generosity, it buys them favour. All my opinions of course. That my friend is the reality of it. This is not a big fish but a corporate Whale we are dealing with here. Got to admit, I am actually shaking at this news. It has really and very badly affected me. Don't let it wind you up mate. Regardless we still have a stadium that belongs to us, which is fit for purpose for where we are at the moment. What will be will be when it comes to sainsburys. We are all football fans, not terrace lawyers so let's concentrate on supporting the football |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 26, 2014 18:44:33 GMT
What are the chances that UWE could help fund the build along with our compensation? Smaller scale? I'd prefer a 12000 capacity stadium which could then be expanded to 20,000 should we ever get in the prem ( highly unlikely). We'd have a stadium that would be cheaper to run and we'd create a better atmosphere too. I know the UWE is needed to bring the club forward and so on but I've always hated the thought of a few thousand of us rattling around inside a 20,000 capacity stadium. Even in the conference it would be half full and if we got back into the league we could get 8-10000 every week if we we're run properly and successful. That would be great in a 12,000 capacity stadium. I really hope that if everything falls through which it looks it is then we can come up with something. I'd be up for redeveloping the Mem stand by stand too. When this all go's pete tong you will be lucky to have a team to support on the downs |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 18:49:43 GMT
Reading these posts, I'm feeling like the club is an elderly relative, that I haven't visited as often as I should.  |
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Post by mumbles on Aug 26, 2014 18:57:06 GMT
Sainsbury's make large donations to both the Conservatives and Labour Party when neccessary, they don't do it out of generosity, it buys them favour. All my opinions of course. Always been amazed that that sort of thing is legal. Obvious conflicts of interest all over the place. We've been led a merry dance, the only thing I can see that we can do now is hit them where it hurts the most - at the checkout! Time to vote with our feet I think and tell them as much on social media. We're not the first club they've done similar things to either, football fans unite! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 26, 2014 18:58:57 GMT
That my friend is the reality of it. This is not a big fish but a corporate Whale we are dealing with here. Got to admit, I am actually shaking at this news. It has really and very badly affected me. Don't let it wind you up mate. Regardless we still have a stadium that belongs to us, which is fit for purpose for where we are at the moment. What will be will be when it comes to sainsburys. We are all football fans, not terrace lawyers so let's concentrate on supporting the football But what debts will be tied to the ground, and how can we progress on the playing front if we can't invest in the playing side of the club. Perhaps our only hope is DC can instill "it's us against the world" mentality in the players to get results. |
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Aug 26, 2014 19:01:27 GMT
In fairness, why should they, their in no rush! Now if they actually were going forward with it...WOW Rush rush lets get this thing that's gonna make us further millions built! Sadly the proof is in the pudding. So using your argument Jon, why should Nick Hicks go public about progress ?? Good question HG. I certainly think Nick should make a statement, unfortunately it will be like David saying he thinks he may be able to beat Goliath. I know confidentiality is paramount, but i do feel he could have given us a little more honesty, the line has always been "Everything will be ok" when clearly it is not, i won't attack him for that, i think he knows he's stuck between a rock and a hard place. Well, if this is now out i think we can guarantee one thing - Sainsburys will have done their homework, their team will be the best, even they won't enter a battle they can't win. I think if we all had a guess we would say we may get an amount but it certainly won't fund our dream home. Gutted. |
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Post by lulworthgas on Aug 26, 2014 19:05:42 GMT
Don't let it wind you up mate. Regardless we still have a stadium that belongs to us, which is fit for purpose for where we are at the moment. What will be will be when it comes to sainsburys. We are all football fans, not terrace lawyers so let's concentrate on supporting the football But what debts will be tied to the ground, and how can we progress on the playing front if we can't invest in the playing side of the club. Perhaps our only hope is DC can instill "it's us against the world" mentality in the players to get results. Dunno mate, soldier, not a football CEO, what I do no is that I can still tip up and watch rovers as and when I can. |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Aug 26, 2014 19:24:34 GMT
That my friend is the reality of it. This is not a big fish but a corporate Whale we are dealing with here. Got to admit, I am actually shaking at this news. It has really and very badly affected me. Don't let it wind you up mate. Regardless we still have a stadium that belongs to us, which is fit for purpose for where we are at the moment. What will be will be when it comes to sainsburys. We are all football fans, not terrace lawyers so let's concentrate on supporting the football Is it really fit for purpose? I'd rather have Forest Green's ground than the ramshackle hole we currently reside in. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 26, 2014 19:27:39 GMT
So using your argument Jon, why should Nick Hicks go public about progress ?? Good question HG. I certainly think Nick should make a statement, unfortunately it will be like David saying he thinks he may be able to beat Goliath. I know confidentiality is paramount, but i do feel he could have given us a little more honesty, the line has always been "Everything will be ok" when clearly it is not, i won't attack him for that, i think he knows he's stuck between a rock and a hard place. Well, if this is now out i think we can guarantee one thing - Sainsburys will have done their homework, their team will be the best, even they won't enter a battle they can't win. I think if we all had a guess we would say we may get an amount but it certainly won't fund our dream home. Gutted. I think Jon this is all about compensation, the stadium is dead that's for sure. |
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Post by Raj Gas on Aug 26, 2014 19:40:25 GMT
Don't let it wind you up mate. Regardless we still have a stadium that belongs to us, which is fit for purpose for where we are at the moment. What will be will be when it comes to sainsburys. We are all football fans, not terrace lawyers so let's concentrate on supporting the football Is it really fit for purpose? I'd rather have Forest Green's ground than the ramshackle hole we currently reside in. I thought Barnet's had a lot of potential as well, certainly a very good pitch. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 19:42:45 GMT
Don't let it wind you up mate. Regardless we still have a stadium that belongs to us, which is fit for purpose for where we are at the moment. What will be will be when it comes to sainsburys. We are all football fans, not terrace lawyers so let's concentrate on supporting the football Is it really fit for purpose? I'd rather have Forest Green's ground than the ramshackle hole we currently reside in. It's only that way because it has been allowed to decay on the promise of the new ground. There is a lot that just paint would sort out. The Mem is not the tip many make it to be. It's the same as your own house, leave it and it rots. |
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