Marshy
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Post by Marshy on Apr 7, 2017 6:21:48 GMT
Yet another little tease. You would make a great politician severncider. In fairness he can't win. If he relays detailed information he gets pilloried. And if he doesn't relay it he gets pilloried too. That's life isn't it. Best say f**k all. Our time will come soon enough UTG.
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Post by gastronaut on Apr 7, 2017 6:39:26 GMT
So we aren't going to own it after all? We wouldn't own the freehold we would own a 125 year lease which is long enough to give security & certainty - I guess it's the other conditions of the lease that are key. It's a longer term than we have been in existence and even the youngest supporter today would be dead by the time the lease was up - with that in mind, I could just accept a lease!
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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 7, 2017 7:23:27 GMT
I can confirm that major progress has been made and in fact today could well be the day ( if WAQ flight is on time) But are the landing lights on?
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Post by scoobydoogas on Apr 7, 2017 7:33:24 GMT
We wouldn't own the freehold we would own a 125 year lease which is long enough to give security & certainty - I guess it's the other conditions of the lease that are key. It's a longer term than we have been in existence and even the youngest supporter today would be dead by the time the lease was up - with that in mind, I could just accept a lease! We were founded in 1883 so I make that 134 years in existence.
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Post by scoobydoogas on Apr 7, 2017 7:38:30 GMT
I really don't like the leasehold route. We gave up freehold at Eastville and we eventually lost the lot. We finally get to own our own ground again and then we give it all up again. I just don't get it. I know we'll all be dead by the time it comes to a head, and maybe football will be unrecognisable in 125 years anyway (possibly all virtual reality and supporters imagine they are at a football ground by wearing special headgear while sitting in their back garden) but I'm still uneasy about leasehold.
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Post by knowall on Apr 7, 2017 7:42:59 GMT
In fairness he can't win. If he relays detailed information he gets pilloried. And if he doesn't relay it he gets pilloried too. That's why i stopped posting on here about and now send out PM's to people who want to know what actually is going on Beats me why someone needs to be the itk gossip? Those really in the know keep it to themselves and maybe close associates but do not post information as they are privy to something secret.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Apr 7, 2017 7:48:11 GMT
I really don't like the leasehold route. We gave up freehold at Eastville and we eventually lost the lot. We finally get to own our own ground again and then we give it all up again. I just don't get it. I know we'll all be dead by the time it comes to a head, and maybe football will be unrecognisable in 125 years anyway (possibly all virtual reality and supporters imagine they are at a football ground by wearing special headgear while sitting in their back garden) but I'm still uneasy about leasehold. Agreed. The world will be very different. 3rd world war will see to that. Name any stadium that has lasted 125years without being rebuilt? We would have communication in plants by then also which would tap into virtual worlds
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Apr 7, 2017 7:53:23 GMT
I really don't like the leasehold route. We gave up freehold at Eastville and we eventually lost the lot. We finally get to own our own ground again and then we give it all up again. I just don't get it. I know we'll all be dead by the time it comes to a head, and maybe football will be unrecognisable in 125 years anyway (possibly all virtual reality and supporters imagine they are at a football ground by wearing special headgear while sitting in their back garden) but I'm still uneasy about leasehold. Well have you got any better options? The trouble is that it has to beneficial to both us and UWE long term. Hamer said there is a plan B but it didn't sound like much of one tbh! I expect that would be redeveloping the mem or something.
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Post by daniel300380 on Apr 7, 2017 7:56:53 GMT
So Higgs deal was not as bad as everyone is making out then, if we have looked into it for ages, looked at different options and still decided to stick to that deal.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Apr 7, 2017 7:59:26 GMT
I really don't like the leasehold route. We gave up freehold at Eastville and we eventually lost the lot. We finally get to own our own ground again and then we give it all up again. I just don't get it. I know we'll all be dead by the time it comes to a head, and maybe football will be unrecognisable in 125 years anyway (possibly all virtual reality and supporters imagine they are at a football ground by wearing special headgear while sitting in their back garden) but I'm still uneasy about leasehold. Well have you got any better options? The trouble is that it has to beneficial to both us and UWE long term. Hamer said there is a plan B but it didn't sound like much of one tbh! I expect that would be redeveloping the mem or something. There isn't a plan B other than we would have to look elsewhere.....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 7:59:28 GMT
Could not care a toss about a leasehold deal! At least we will have a ground we can be proud of, unlike our present ramshackle establishment. This will surely prove to be the best thing that has ever happened to our great club and hopefully under Wael and Co we can move on to the best things that have ever happened on the field as well. UTG!
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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 7, 2017 8:06:54 GMT
In reality this ground will be designed to last us X amount of years which will be well short of the 125 anyway and do us very well in the interim. I get the feeling the Al Qadis are taking us on an interesting journey - who knows we might be looking at much bigger and better in 25 years anyway!
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Post by gasheadbou on Apr 7, 2017 8:21:19 GMT
Most of the buildings in the City Centre are held on long leases and nearly every flat is too. It's not necessarily a bad thing, providing the terms aren't all stacked in UWE's favour.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Apr 7, 2017 8:33:02 GMT
This thread is pure click bait
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Apr 7, 2017 8:35:04 GMT
Most of the buildings in the City Centre are held on long leases and nearly every flat is too. It's not necessarily a bad thing, providing the terms aren't all stacked in UWE's favour. Diplomatic response admittedly, but Steve said "neither party will be getting a cheap deal".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 8:36:38 GMT
Fake news
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 8:40:33 GMT
Tangent: if I have an ST in an all-seater stadium, I will presumably have an allocated seat. Does this mean the end of occasionally bringing my non-ST holding Dad along to a game? Seems a shame to bring him and not be able to sit with each other.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Apr 7, 2017 8:42:48 GMT
Tangent: if I have an ST in an all-seater stadium, I will presumably have an allocated seat. Does this mean the end of occasionally bringing my non-ST holding Dad along to a game? Seems a shame to bring him and not be able to sit with each other. I've thought of this.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 8:44:50 GMT
Tangent: if I have an ST in an all-seater stadium, I will presumably have an allocated seat. Does this mean the end of occasionally bringing my non-ST holding Dad along to a game? Seems a shame to bring him and not be able to sit with each other. I've thought of this. I gotta say it would put me off getting an ST a lot.
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Post by pirate49 on Apr 7, 2017 8:48:26 GMT
Tangent: if I have an ST in an all-seater stadium, I will presumably have an allocated seat. Does this mean the end of occasionally bringing my non-ST holding Dad along to a game? Seems a shame to bring him and not be able to sit with each other. I think that in a 22,000? seater stadium everyone will be able to shuffle along to accomodate your dad!
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