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Post by Topper Gas on May 1, 2017 21:10:21 GMT
My goodness. Your ability to assume things based on total misunderstanding is astounding. I would have assumed a Lord Justice would have understood the difference between an assumption and a question, here's a clue for you one usually ends with this ?
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Post by stuart1974 on May 1, 2017 21:19:20 GMT
It's not a true state of affairs at all. It's what you say is a true state of affairs based on your mangled misunderstanding of the latest financial statements which is wrong for the reasons Minehead had already illustrated. No, that what the latest accounts showed and there was no suggestions within those accounts by the Chairman any debt were being paid off, if my understanding is wrong then show me the evidence which suggests that's the case. At best we'll break even this season so unless the ALQ's have changed track and started writing off the debts they won't have reduced. Page 17 of the accounts show debt paid off (and a group loan to finance loan settlement of £6m being added) and note 23 on page 34 shows the MSP loan no longer being there in 2016. Also the Chairman's note states that £2.3m was written off.
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Post by Captain Jayho on May 1, 2017 21:19:49 GMT
None of us know f all about the club debts, Dwain Sports debts or the debts of any other facet that makes up the whole of Bristol Rovers. The club has been taken over by the Al Quadis, a respected Jordanian business and banking family. What we do know is that they conduct themselves in a conservative and professional manner. They keep their cards close and are the antithesis of flash. I am prepared to put my trust in them until they give me reason to do otherwise. Those who come on here spouting about debt, where its held, how it's being serviced etc etc etc know 9/10ths of f all squared, and ought to stop boring the rest of us with their pseudo knowledgable ramblings. If you find it boring you do realise you can just ignore it? Rather than trying to stifle other people's debate.
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Post by stuart1974 on May 1, 2017 21:22:18 GMT
exactly - so you know absolutely nothing - suggest you stop trying to be Mr Big Like your name tag, you think you know all, i n fact you know very little, like everybody on here Oy! I resemble that remark!!!
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Post by knowall on May 1, 2017 21:27:41 GMT
exactly - so you know absolutely nothing - suggest you stop trying to be Mr Big Like your name tag, you think you know all, in fact you know very little, like everybody on here But I do know the difference between an annual report and a financial statement - do you?
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Post by LJG on May 1, 2017 21:34:54 GMT
My goodness. Your ability to assume things based on total misunderstanding is astounding. I would have assumed a Lord Justice would have understood the difference between an assumption and a question, here's a clue for you one usually ends with this ? Just because you stick a question mark on the end of a statement that does not make it a question.
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Post by aghast on May 1, 2017 21:52:51 GMT
This is all getting a bit too heated and personal.
Can't we just discuss Brexit or something?
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on May 1, 2017 21:54:29 GMT
That sounds like one hell of a half empty glass! When you've hoped for a full glass for 20 years and mostly got an empty one you do tend to moderate your expectations a bit. If you can't be positive about the Gas after back to back promotions, the best manager we've had for years, new progressive owners, new training ground on the way, and a new stadium likely to be announced soon, you never will. Enjoy this time guys, it may never be this good again!
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 22:39:58 GMT
In a nutshell then, because everything has not been built in the past 14 months, and for free as well, leaving no debt then you don't believe he has delivered, got it!!!! You here for the long run? Been around for the past 30 years, not sure if another 30 lies ahead, who knows, what I do think though is this club is at the start of a very exciting journey and going to be a club that is unrecognisable in 5 years from what it is today, i'm still waiting for those who constantly pick holes at the club to give is the expert opinion on how the FC should be run.
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Post by aghast on May 1, 2017 22:56:15 GMT
I don't want us to become unrecognisable from what we are today.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 23:06:43 GMT
I don't want us to become unrecognisable from what we are today. By that I mean't facilities and structure, the thought of doing a Bristol Sport is enough to make the blood run cold.
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 2, 2017 1:08:23 GMT
Like your name tag, you think you know all, in fact you know very little, like everybody on here But I do know the difference between an annual report and a financial statement - do you? i'm the director of my own company, are you ?
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Post by Gasshole on May 2, 2017 4:36:48 GMT
When you've hoped for a full glass for 20 years and mostly got an empty one you do tend to moderate your expectations a bit. If you can't be positive about the Gas after back to back promotions, the best manager we've had for years, new progressive owners, new training ground on the way, and a new stadium likely to be announced soon, you never will. Enjoy this time guys, it may never be this good again! Don't forget the hand drier
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Post by Gasshole on May 2, 2017 4:47:03 GMT
None of us know f all about the club debts, Dwain Sports debts or the debts of any other facet that makes up the whole of Bristol Rovers. The club has been taken over by the Al Quadis, a respected Jordanian business and banking family. What we do know is that they conduct themselves in a conservative and professional manner. They keep their cards close and are the antithesis of flash. I am prepared to put my trust in them until they give me reason to do otherwise. Those who come on here spouting about debt, where its held, how it's being serviced etc etc etc know 9/10ths of f all squared, and ought to stop boring the rest of us with their pseudo knowledgable ramblings. is the answer zero Attachment Deleted
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Post by Hugo the Elder on May 2, 2017 6:14:54 GMT
I would have assumed a Lord Justice would have understood the difference between an assumption and a question, here's a clue for you one usually ends with this ? Just because you stick a question mark on the end of a statement that does not make it a question. Is that a question? I can't tell because there is no ? at the end.
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Post by newmarketgas on May 2, 2017 6:22:42 GMT
Just because you stick a question mark on the end of a statement that does not make it a question. Is that a question? I can't tell because there is no ? at the end. Should you have another three ?'s to make sure that is a question Why did my three question marks turn into a glum face ? I need a safe place !
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Post by gasify on May 2, 2017 6:27:01 GMT
No, that what the latest accounts showed and there was no suggestions within those accounts by the Chairman any debt were being paid off, if my understanding is wrong then show me the evidence which suggests that's the case. At best we'll break even this season so unless the ALQ's have changed track and started writing off the debts they won't have reduced. Page 17 of the accounts show debt paid off (and a group loan to finance loan settlement of £6m being added) and note 23 on page 34 shows the MSP loan no longer being there in 2016. Also the Chairman's note states that £2.3m was written off. Yep. Looks like money is still owed, just owed to DS and not Wonga. The write off was about the court case. The previous directors left the costs out of the previous years profit calculation in the hope that they would win and they could then write it off over the next 5-10 years...... On paper (accounts) we are in a similar position to before the new owners. Accounts are historical in nature and we are nearly a year on from them already. However what we are seeing is very different to before the new owners took over. Even if the only thing the new owners do for us is build the training ground then that is more than any owners have done for a long time. The modern day football club owners seem to be dammed if they do and dammed if they don't. They either get blamed for stumping up millions in cash and giving it a go and getting the club into a massive loss making position or they try and run the club like a business and get accused of a lack of ambition.
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Post by LJG on May 2, 2017 6:46:10 GMT
But I do know the difference between an annual report and a financial statement - do you? i'm the director of my own company, are you ? If he is you both have to unzip and flop your turnover on the table.
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 2, 2017 7:23:35 GMT
i'm the director of my own company, are you ? If he is you both have to unzip and flop your turnover on the table. To the Nearest Million ? Baggy Knows how rich i am........
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Post by gasify on May 2, 2017 7:24:20 GMT
i'm the director of my own company, are you ? If he is you both have to unzip and flop your turnover on the table. "Turnover is vanity, profit is sanity, cash is a reality"
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