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Post by peterparker on Jun 8, 2017 7:51:16 GMT
I think if the majority of young people voted ,then labour would always just pip the tories in the ballot ,you just have to think back a few decades a lot of first time voters were easily swayed by either the way thier family voted or swayed by lecturers at college or uni, those trends continue till today. I guess you will always have an aspect of the 18-24 age group thinking it doesnt matter, or doesnt effect them. Only aa you get older settle down, move out,have kids etc do you take more of an interest |
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Post by inee on Jun 8, 2017 8:01:42 GMT
yup i've always thought voting age should be late 20's on for that reason, yes i know very unpopular ,but by then most people will have a grip on just how hard it is to survive away from parents.
what does worry me more people now demand a revote if it's a slim win/or loss depending on their bent.
we have our way of voting it doesnt need changing simple as, or look at it another way someone won a hundred meter sprint, they would be upset and angry if they were told well 3 members of 1 family came second fourth and fifth so they win , just cant get my head around how so many want to change something that works for something that will weaken parliament even more, if they want weird voting rules, got to the us or zimbabwe
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Post by peterparker on Jun 8, 2017 8:18:43 GMT
FPTP is okay, but it does throw up the idea that only 2 parties can ever really form a Government. To be fair the Lib Dems were establishing themselves as a viable 3rd option, until they imploded after the 2010 coalition. The SNP have become significant (essentially replacing the Libs) as Labour have imploded North of the border.
What I do find absurd is the SNP can get 50 odd seats but poll less than UKIP (who I have no love for) and that differing sizes of constituencies and what votes are actually needed to get seats
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 8, 2017 8:47:20 GMT
FPTP is okay, but it does throw up the idea that only 2 parties can ever really form a Government. To be fair the Lib Dems were establishing themselves as a viable 3rd option, until they imploded after the 2010 coalition. The SNP have become significant (essentially replacing the Libs) as Labour have imploded North of the border. What I do find absurd is the SNP can get 50 odd seats but poll less than UKIP (who I have no love for) and that differing sizes of constituencies and what votes are actually needed to get seats UKIP were a successful single issue party though. I'd imagine this may be the future of politics. |
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Post by William Wilson on Jun 8, 2017 9:54:19 GMT
Well, the money`s going on the Conservatives this morning.
1/10 yesterday. Now 1/20.
Labour were 6/1 yesterday. Now 8/1.
If Labour do win, a few people are going to be poorer today. Rapidly followed by the rest of us.
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Post by peterparker on Jun 8, 2017 10:40:24 GMT
Well, the money`s going on the Conservatives this morning. 1/10 yesterday. Now 1/20. Labour were 6/1 yesterday. Now 8/1. If Labour do win, a few people are going to be poorer today. Rapidly followed by the rest of us. Surely some mistake. My social media is telling me how fantatic Labour are, everyone saying vote Labour. Clear landslide for them obviously🙄 |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 10:53:42 GMT
Well, the money`s going on the Conservatives this morning. 1/10 yesterday. Now 1/20. Labour were 6/1 yesterday. Now 8/1. If Labour do win, a few people are going to be poorer today. Rapidly followed by the rest of us. Surely some mistake. My social media is telling me how fantatic Labour are, everyone saying vote Labour. Clear landslide for them obviously🙄 Remind me what odds Leave and Trump were before the polls closed? It'll be a massive Tory landslide, but people suggesting betting markets are an indication of a result have learnt nothing. |
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Post by William Wilson on Jun 8, 2017 11:34:12 GMT
Surely some mistake. My social media is telling me how fantatic Labour are, everyone saying vote Labour. Clear landslide for them obviously🙄 Remind me what odds Leave and Trump were before the polls closed? It'll be a massive Tory landslide, but people suggesting betting markets are an indication of a result have learnt nothing. Nobody said it was. I merely pointed out where the money was going. Given what`s happened recently, it wouldn`t be a massive shock to me, if Jihadi Jeremy prevails today. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 11:48:22 GMT
Remind me what odds Leave and Trump were before the polls closed? It'll be a massive Tory landslide, but people suggesting betting markets are an indication of a result have learnt nothing. Nobody said it was. I merely pointed out where the money was going. Given what`s happened recently, it wouldn`t be a massive shock to me, if Jihadi Jeremy prevails today. That made I larf ! |
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jun 8, 2017 13:52:01 GMT
Lib Dems will win
F*ck all
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Post by axegas on Jun 8, 2017 13:54:26 GMT
Lib Dems will win F*ck all Who? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 13:58:53 GMT
Lib Dems will win F*ck all Did you Farron being interviewed by Andrew Neil. Poor little Timmy was destroyed. |
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Post by peterparker on Jun 8, 2017 21:01:18 GMT
Exit Poll
Con 314
Lab 266
SNP 34
Lib 14
But who knows
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Post by scoobydoogas on Jun 8, 2017 21:16:50 GMT
Exit Poll Con 314 Lab 266 SNP 34 Lib 14 But who knows How convenient. I guess that makes for a better discussion on tv. As we all know, 90% of polls are made up! |
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Post by peterparker on Jun 8, 2017 21:20:44 GMT
Exit Poll Con 314 Lab 266 SNP 34 Lib 14 But who knows How convenient. I guess that makes for a better discussion on tv. As we all know, 90% of polls are made up! Well all depends on who they asked and if they told the truth |
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Post by gregsy on Jun 8, 2017 21:29:11 GMT
did anyone else notice that at the polling station that your card reflected a number and then they found your paper which had the number on the back....
so anonymity is pretty much dead then....
very dodgy
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jun 9, 2017 0:01:10 GMT
did anyone else notice that at the polling station that your card reflected a number and then they found your paper which had the number on the back.... so anonymity is pretty much dead then.... very dodgy I noticed that too and I've only ever voted twice before |
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Post by gregsy on Jun 9, 2017 0:15:00 GMT
did anyone else notice that at the polling station that your card reflected a number and then they found your paper which had the number on the back.... so anonymity is pretty much dead then.... very dodgy I noticed that too and I've only ever voted twice before mate, I tell you, I'm chuffcin confused by why they had to find my own personal ballot paper with its own number printed on the back.... working out the electorate has always been the hard bit. giving people anonymous ballot papers should be easy.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 1:44:31 GMT
I noticed that too and I've only ever voted twice before mate, I tell you, I'm chuffcin confused by why they had to find my own personal ballot paper with its own number printed on the back.... working out the electorate has always been the hard bit. giving people anonymous ballot papers should be easy.... I think it's just you PG and a few other suspects who might know you! Thank goodness for Nicola, at least one female managed to F##k up more than Theresa. Ruthy baby for PM  n.b Other political views are available. |
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Post by mariobalotelli on Jun 9, 2017 3:57:39 GMT
So, that Tory landslide...
Regarding the young, I doubt it's the same today as it's always been. Corbyn engaged with the young and gave them reasons to vote Labour, May also gave them countless reasons to vote Labour. Social media has made it a different world and allowed young people to form their own opinions of what policies suit them and will be best. I didn't vote the same as my parents and neither did a lot of people I know. It's a different generation.
I've stayed up all night with others my age watching it all unfold, a couple of years ago I wouldn't have been interested or voted and that was the case with most young, but we now realise only we can vote for our future. Corbyn has done a fantastic job whatever you think of him to finally get people engaged in politics.
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