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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 20:49:10 GMT
DC and the players won't let you down they go out to win every home game Fixed.
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Post by moody on Apr 26, 2017 22:13:24 GMT
Millwall fan here, that joined last year.
Not sure what trouble the Southend fan is referring too. I went to the game and the most I saw was verbals after the Shrimpers tamed a rather poor Lions side. But, I stand to be corrected.
If he did see Millwall 'fans' attacking / goading families etc. then they certainly would not have been our hooligans.
Millwall still have a large & active hooligan element, I won't deny that. But, because of the changes in policing these days (lots of CCTV, tough sentences etc.) you will rarely catch them getting involved in trivial things like attacking / goading normal fans.
In fact, most hooligan outings these days are kept to very specific matches - known as 'flag days'.
However, that is not to say we don't have an element clinging on to the hooligan's reputation. Especially as we are now caught in this vicious circle of everyone thinking we are scum and having a pop and our herberts having a pop back. That's not serious organised football violence though.
Take Millwall at West Ham in the League Cup in 2009. Pictures of watered up Hammers fans running on the pitch, throwing bottles outside pubs and tube stations, stabbing a normal Millwall fan were all over the media. But, the real hooligans were miles from all that, completely off the radar.
Or Leicester City at home in the Cup. The big story was all about a few beer monsters and kids (and a Granny) on the pitch goading the Leicester fans after our last minute winner. Yet, around 500 Millwall hooligans had been chasing Leicester's firm around London all day. Not a single normal Leicester fan bumped into them though.
In fact this rent a mob element grab a lot of headlines. I see Wembley got mentioned. That was watered up idiots from both sides going at it, trust me...Barnsley's chavs on a beer up were not shy. What it wasn't though was serious Millwall hooligans gping around trying to attack normal Barnsley fans.
I cannot imagine there being any trouble on Sunday, beyond verbals should Rovers win. I doubt many if any serious hooligans will travel. The only reason they would bother is if Rovers' firm promised to tango.
What is far more likely to happen Sunday, is that young lads from Bristol will want to have a go at the 'famous' Millwall mob...maybe by throwing bottles etc. from behind a police line amd everyone will go home happy - the police will have justified their bill, the young lads from Bristol can regal the pub later about smashing the 'not scary anymore' Millwall, the fans who predicted trouble will be able to be smug and condescending online and our nobodies will get to chant 'Miiiillllll' at the heavy handed police escort.
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Post by Marshy on Apr 27, 2017 6:17:27 GMT
Millwall fan here, that joined last year. Not sure what trouble the Southend fan is referring too. I went to the game and the most I saw was verbals after the Shrimpers tamed a rather poor Lions side. But, I stand to be corrected. If he did see Millwall 'fans' attacking / goading families etc. then they certainly would not have been our hooligans. Millwall still have a large & active hooligan element, I won't deny that. But, because of the changes in policing these days (lots of CCTV, tough sentences etc.) you will rarely catch them getting involved in trivial things like attacking / goading normal fans. In fact, most hooligan outings these days are kept to very specific matches - known as 'flag days'. However, that is not to say we don't have an element clinging on to the hooligan's reputation. Especially as we are now caught in this vicious circle of everyone thinking we are scum and having a pop and our herberts having a pop back. That's not serious organised football violence though. Take Millwall at West Ham in the League Cup in 2009. Pictures of watered up Hammers fans running on the pitch, throwing bottles outside pubs and tube stations, stabbing a normal Millwall fan were all over the media. But, the real hooligans were miles from all that, completely off the radar. Or Leicester City at home in the Cup. The big story was all about a few beer monsters and kids (and a Granny) on the pitch goading the Leicester fans after our last minute winner. Yet, around 500 Millwall hooligans had been chasing Leicester's firm around London all day. Not a single normal Leicester fan bumped into them though. In fact this rent a mob element grab a lot of headlines. I see Wembley got mentioned. That was watered up idiots from both sides going at it, trust me...Barnsley's chavs on a beer up were not shy. What it wasn't though was serious Millwall hooligans gping around trying to attack normal Barnsley fans. I cannot imagine there being any trouble on Sunday, beyond verbals should Rovers win. I doubt many if any serious hooligans will travel. The only reason they would bother is if Rovers' firm promised to tango. What is far more likely to happen Sunday, is that young lads from Bristol will want to have a go at the 'famous' Millwall mob...maybe by throwing bottles etc. from behind a police line amd everyone will go home happy - the police will have justified their bill, the young lads from Bristol can regal the pub later about smashing the 'not scary anymore' Millwall, the fans who predicted trouble will be able to be smug and condescending online and our nobodies will get to chant 'Miiiillllll' at the heavy handed police escort. Thanks for that moody a very interesting insight.
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Post by clockendgas on Apr 27, 2017 7:33:01 GMT
looks like it could be a bit damp sunday, is that stone island stuff waterproof, or is it like a higgs contract?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 7:35:13 GMT
Millwall fan here, that joined last year. Not sure what trouble the Southend fan is referring too. I went to the game and the most I saw was verbals after the Shrimpers tamed a rather poor Lions side. But, I stand to be corrected. If he did see Millwall 'fans' attacking / goading families etc. then they certainly would not have been our hooligans. Millwall still have a large & active hooligan element, I won't deny that. But, because of the changes in policing these days (lots of CCTV, tough sentences etc.) you will rarely catch them getting involved in trivial things like attacking / goading normal fans. In fact, most hooligan outings these days are kept to very specific matches - known as 'flag days'. However, that is not to say we don't have an element clinging on to the hooligan's reputation. Especially as we are now caught in this vicious circle of everyone thinking we are scum and having a pop and our herberts having a pop back. That's not serious organised football violence though. Take Millwall at West Ham in the League Cup in 2009. Pictures of watered up Hammers fans running on the pitch, throwing bottles outside pubs and tube stations, stabbing a normal Millwall fan were all over the media. But, the real hooligans were miles from all that, completely off the radar. Or Leicester City at home in the Cup. The big story was all about a few beer monsters and kids (and a Granny) on the pitch goading the Leicester fans after our last minute winner. Yet, around 500 Millwall hooligans had been chasing Leicester's firm around London all day. Not a single normal Leicester fan bumped into them though. In fact this rent a mob element grab a lot of headlines. I see Wembley got mentioned. That was watered up idiots from both sides going at it, trust me...Barnsley's chavs on a beer up were not shy. What it wasn't though was serious Millwall hooligans gping around trying to attack normal Barnsley fans. I cannot imagine there being any trouble on Sunday, beyond verbals should Rovers win. I doubt many if any serious hooligans will travel. The only reason they would bother is if Rovers' firm promised to tango. What is far more likely to happen Sunday, is that young lads from Bristol will want to have a go at the 'famous' Millwall mob...maybe by throwing bottles etc. from behind a police line amd everyone will go home happy - the police will have justified their bill, the young lads from Bristol can regal the pub later about smashing the 'not scary anymore' Millwall, the fans who predicted trouble will be able to be smug and condescending online and our nobodies will get to chant 'Miiiillllll' at the heavy handed police escort.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 7:36:16 GMT
Will you be at the game moody?
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Post by moody on Apr 27, 2017 8:08:25 GMT
looks like it could be a bit damp sunday, is that stone island stuff waterproof, or is it like a higgs contract? If you see people sporting Stone Island you know for sure no serious hooligans have shown up!
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Post by moody on Apr 27, 2017 8:10:40 GMT
Will you be at the game moody? No. I was tempted, as my sister lives in Bristol these days, but could not swing it. I will certainly be attending whichever Bristol ground we will be visiting next season though!
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Post by sufcmatt on Apr 27, 2017 10:33:37 GMT
Millwall fan here, that joined last year. Not sure what trouble the Southend fan is referring too. I went to the game and the most I saw was verbals after the Shrimpers tamed a rather poor Lions side. But, I stand to be corrected. If he did see Millwall 'fans' attacking / goading families etc. then they certainly would not have been our hooligans. Millwall still have a large & active hooligan element, I won't deny that. But, because of the changes in policing these days (lots of CCTV, tough sentences etc.) you will rarely catch them getting involved in trivial things like attacking / goading normal fans. In fact, most hooligan outings these days are kept to very specific matches - known as 'flag days'. However, that is not to say we don't have an element clinging on to the hooligan's reputation. Especially as we are now caught in this vicious circle of everyone thinking we are scum and having a pop and our herberts having a pop back. That's not serious organised football violence though. Take Millwall at West Ham in the League Cup in 2009. Pictures of watered up Hammers fans running on the pitch, throwing bottles outside pubs and tube stations, stabbing a normal Millwall fan were all over the media. But, the real hooligans were miles from all that, completely off the radar. Or Leicester City at home in the Cup. The big story was all about a few beer monsters and kids (and a Granny) on the pitch goading the Leicester fans after our last minute winner. Yet, around 500 Millwall hooligans had been chasing Leicester's firm around London all day. Not a single normal Leicester fan bumped into them though. In fact this rent a mob element grab a lot of headlines. I see Wembley got mentioned. That was watered up idiots from both sides going at it, trust me...Barnsley's chavs on a beer up were not shy. What it wasn't though was serious Millwall hooligans gping around trying to attack normal Barnsley fans. I cannot imagine there being any trouble on Sunday, beyond verbals should Rovers win. I doubt many if any serious hooligans will travel. The only reason they would bother is if Rovers' firm promised to tango. What is far more likely to happen Sunday, is that young lads from Bristol will want to have a go at the 'famous' Millwall mob...maybe by throwing bottles etc. from behind a police line amd everyone will go home happy - the police will have justified their bill, the young lads from Bristol can regal the pub later about smashing the 'not scary anymore' Millwall, the fans who predicted trouble will be able to be smug and condescending online and our nobodies will get to chant 'Miiiillllll' at the heavy handed police escort. Plenty of videos on youtube buddy to support my claim. Take a look. Its also interesting that you mention about Barnsley at Wembley but what about against Wigan when you were fighting each other. That seems to happen a lot with you boys. I just find it amazing the amount of parents involved that are with young children, so many videos proving. And I saw it first hand earlier in the season. Disgusting. Hope you bottle it Sunday
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 10:49:07 GMT
Millwall fan here, that joined last year. Not sure what trouble the Southend fan is referring too. I went to the game and the most I saw was verbals after the Shrimpers tamed a rather poor Lions side. But, I stand to be corrected. If he did see Millwall 'fans' attacking / goading families etc. then they certainly would not have been our hooligans. Millwall still have a large & active hooligan element, I won't deny that. But, because of the changes in policing these days (lots of CCTV, tough sentences etc.) you will rarely catch them getting involved in trivial things like attacking / goading normal fans. In fact, most hooligan outings these days are kept to very specific matches - known as 'flag days'. However, that is not to say we don't have an element clinging on to the hooligan's reputation. Especially as we are now caught in this vicious circle of everyone thinking we are scum and having a pop and our herberts having a pop back. That's not serious organised football violence though. Take Millwall at West Ham in the League Cup in 2009. Pictures of watered up Hammers fans running on the pitch, throwing bottles outside pubs and tube stations, stabbing a normal Millwall fan were all over the media. But, the real hooligans were miles from all that, completely off the radar. Or Leicester City at home in the Cup. The big story was all about a few beer monsters and kids (and a Granny) on the pitch goading the Leicester fans after our last minute winner. Yet, around 500 Millwall hooligans had been chasing Leicester's firm around London all day. Not a single normal Leicester fan bumped into them though. In fact this rent a mob element grab a lot of headlines. I see Wembley got mentioned. That was watered up idiots from both sides going at it, trust me...Barnsley's chavs on a beer up were not shy. What it wasn't though was serious Millwall hooligans gping around trying to attack normal Barnsley fans. I cannot imagine there being any trouble on Sunday, beyond verbals should Rovers win. I doubt many if any serious hooligans will travel. The only reason they would bother is if Rovers' firm promised to tango. What is far more likely to happen Sunday, is that young lads from Bristol will want to have a go at the 'famous' Millwall mob...maybe by throwing bottles etc. from behind a police line amd everyone will go home happy - the police will have justified their bill, the young lads from Bristol can regal the pub later about smashing the 'not scary anymore' Millwall, the fans who predicted trouble will be able to be smug and condescending online and our nobodies will get to chant 'Miiiillllll' at the heavy handed police escort. Cheers for the post, you're saying people can't class all disorder at Millwall games as being committed by the serious 'hooligans'. Fair enough if true. Times seemed to have changed at your club for sure. But, as with most clubs nowadays, it is those 'watered up beer monsters' looking for scuffles and goading normal fans that cause the most aggro. May not be serious hooligans and unfairly grab all the headlines portraying 'hooliganism' is rife (please), but to me they are still dickheads who ruin a lot of people's days out.
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Post by Marshy on Apr 27, 2017 10:52:57 GMT
Millwall fan here, that joined last year. Not sure what trouble the Southend fan is referring too. I went to the game and the most I saw was verbals after the Shrimpers tamed a rather poor Lions side. But, I stand to be corrected. If he did see Millwall 'fans' attacking / goading families etc. then they certainly would not have been our hooligans. Millwall still have a large & active hooligan element, I won't deny that. But, because of the changes in policing these days (lots of CCTV, tough sentences etc.) you will rarely catch them getting involved in trivial things like attacking / goading normal fans. In fact, most hooligan outings these days are kept to very specific matches - known as 'flag days'. However, that is not to say we don't have an element clinging on to the hooligan's reputation. Especially as we are now caught in this vicious circle of everyone thinking we are scum and having a pop and our herberts having a pop back. That's not serious organised football violence though. Take Millwall at West Ham in the League Cup in 2009. Pictures of watered up Hammers fans running on the pitch, throwing bottles outside pubs and tube stations, stabbing a normal Millwall fan were all over the media. But, the real hooligans were miles from all that, completely off the radar. Or Leicester City at home in the Cup. The big story was all about a few beer monsters and kids (and a Granny) on the pitch goading the Leicester fans after our last minute winner. Yet, around 500 Millwall hooligans had been chasing Leicester's firm around London all day. Not a single normal Leicester fan bumped into them though. In fact this rent a mob element grab a lot of headlines. I see Wembley got mentioned. That was watered up idiots from both sides going at it, trust me...Barnsley's chavs on a beer up were not shy. What it wasn't though was serious Millwall hooligans gping around trying to attack normal Barnsley fans. I cannot imagine there being any trouble on Sunday, beyond verbals should Rovers win. I doubt many if any serious hooligans will travel. The only reason they would bother is if Rovers' firm promised to tango. What is far more likely to happen Sunday, is that young lads from Bristol will want to have a go at the 'famous' Millwall mob...maybe by throwing bottles etc. from behind a police line amd everyone will go home happy - the police will have justified their bill, the young lads from Bristol can regal the pub later about smashing the 'not scary anymore' Millwall, the fans who predicted trouble will be able to be smug and condescending online and our nobodies will get to chant 'Miiiillllll' at the heavy handed police escort. Plenty of videos on youtube buddy to support my claim. Take a look. Its also interesting that you mention about Barnsley at Wembley but what about against Wigan when you were fighting each other. That seems to happen a lot with you boys. I just find it amazing the amount of parents involved that are with young children, so many videos proving. And I saw it first hand earlier in the season. Disgusting. Hope you bottle it Sunday Now now children play nice please! If not do it on your own forums.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 11:05:58 GMT
Bolton Wanderers: League One club face winding-up petition over £5m loan??? Perhaps we're still in it?!
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Post by Marshy on Apr 27, 2017 11:08:37 GMT
Bolton Wanderers: League One club face winding-up petition over £5m loan??? Perhaps we're still in it?! well we had better finish in 7th place then just in case? None to go you never know!
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Post by scoobydoogas on Apr 27, 2017 11:19:34 GMT
Plenty of videos on youtube buddy to support my claim. Take a look. Its also interesting that you mention about Barnsley at Wembley but what about against Wigan when you were fighting each other. That seems to happen a lot with you boys. I just find it amazing the amount of parents involved that are with young children, so many videos proving. And I saw it first hand earlier in the season. Disgusting. Hope you bottle it Sunday Now now children play nice please! If not do it on your own forums. Exactly what I was thinking. No need to hijack our forum when they have their own.
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Post by philbemmygas on Apr 27, 2017 11:27:41 GMT
Bolton Wanderers: League One club face winding-up petition over £5m loan??? Perhaps we're still in it?! I seem to recall at the Supporters Club meeting Steve Hamer mentioned some clubs were living (potentially) outside of their means; he also said they will get caught out before too long - we live in hope
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Post by moody on Apr 27, 2017 11:29:14 GMT
The fight at the Wigan game was between to rival crime families - nothing to do with football. Just bad luck they bumped into each other.
I guess my overall point is gone are the days of Millwall hooligans smashing up grounds etc.
If any trouble occurs it is usually just scuffles between idiots on both sides. And can be easily avoided by normal fans.
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Post by baggins on Apr 27, 2017 11:36:43 GMT
The fight at the Wigan game was between to rival crime families - nothing to do with football. Just bad luck they bumped into each other. I guess my overall point is gone are the days of Millwall hooligans smashing up grounds etc. If any trouble occurs it is usually just scuffles between idiots on both sides. And can be easily avoided by normal fans. You've read the forum, we don't do normal.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 15:28:46 GMT
Bolton Wanderers: League One club face winding-up petition over £5m loan??? Perhaps we're still in it?!
Blimey, they sold Rob Holding for 2.5million and had a transfer embargo. How do these clubs continue to get away with it?
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Post by Okebournegas on Apr 27, 2017 18:31:47 GMT
Bolton Wanderers: League One club face winding-up petition over £5m loan??? Perhaps we're still in it?!
Blimey, they sold Rob Holding for 2.5million and had a transfer embargo. How do these clubs continue to get away with it?
It's not who you know , it's who you blow.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 18:33:32 GMT
Blimey, they sold Rob Holding for 2.5million and had a transfer embargo. How do these clubs continue to get away with it?
It's not who you know , it's who you blow.
That's the line I use with my PA...
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