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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 23:29:26 GMT
What a bloody shame. I actually felt this was coming as certain posters have done a sterling job of wearing the guy down. I warned Ras a few weeks ago by pm to beware of those who would seek to destroy what's been set up with their constant negative, confrontational and destructive carping. I hope they are feeling smug now. Edit: just seen the post above, this was not aimed at you Jools Not taken that way Kevin, I am very happy Ras set this up and am grateful but I also know, from experience, you need a tough skin to sometimes deal with forum arguments. Sometimes it's knowing when to just not reply and leave stuff. My biggest problem is with those that can find it easy to write on a forum, stuff they would never say to your face and my bet is that it's those types that may have upset but it is a forum and you give and take it. I just see it for what it is, Ras feels a need to stepping away and FairPlay to that. It's his decision to do so. He'll probably be a lot happier for it in anycase. I don't disagree with any of this but my concern is that we've just lost 2 moderators in a week (and I suspect another is questioning why he bothers) and who will step forward to take on this thankless task. When Ras started this forum he set out his ideology for a (relatively) happy and friendly place where sh!theads were not welcome and board bashing for the sake of it would not be tolerated. Sadly the infiltrators have done a great job of destroying Ras's ideals and succeeding in sickening him off.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 23:33:53 GMT
Not taken that way Kevin, I am very happy Ras set this up and am grateful but I also know, from experience, you need a tough skin to sometimes deal with forum arguments. Sometimes it's knowing when to just not reply and leave stuff. My biggest problem is with those that can find it easy to write on a forum, stuff they would never say to your face and my bet is that it's those types that may have upset but it is a forum and you give and take it. I just see it for what it is, Ras feels a need to stepping away and FairPlay to that. It's his decision to do so. He'll probably be a lot happier for it in anycase. I don't disagree with any of this but my concern is that we've just lost 2 moderators in a week (and I suspect another is questioning why he bothers) and who will step forward to take on this thankless task. When Ras started this forum he set out his ideology for a (relatively) happy and friendly place where sh!theads were not welcome and board bashing for the sake of it would not be tolerated. Sadly the infiltrators have done a great job of destroying Ras's ideals and succeeding in sickening him off. All I would say to that is that you don't have to always reply to people's posts Kevin. Sometimes those people only seek to get a rise so if you ignore them, it works best for all concerned. I am sure Ras will be posting often but with breaks in between, as he did on the OF.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 23:44:17 GMT
I don't disagree with any of this but my concern is that we've just lost 2 moderators in a week (and I suspect another is questioning why he bothers) and who will step forward to take on this thankless task. When Ras started this forum he set out his ideology for a (relatively) happy and friendly place where sh!theads were not welcome and board bashing for the sake of it would not be tolerated. Sadly the infiltrators have done a great job of destroying Ras's ideals and succeeding in sickening him off. All I would say to that is that you don't have to always reply to people's posts Kevin. Sometimes those people only seek to get a rise so if you ignore them, it works best for all concerned. I am sure Ras will be posting often but with breaks in between, as he did on the OF. Good advice, sometimes easier said than done though!
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Post by fanboy on Aug 31, 2014 23:51:18 GMT
Grow up you girl. Love it. What I wanted to say in reality. Ironic.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 1:15:39 GMT
All I would say to that is that you don't have to always reply to people's posts Kevin. Sometimes those people only seek to get a rise so if you ignore them, it works best for all concerned. I am sure Ras will be posting often but with breaks in between, as he did on the OF. Good advice, sometimes easier said than done though! You will get no argument from me on that mucker. I have learned fairly well though. I took a bit longer than most to realise some just post to get a rise. I just mainly ignore them plus you can choose to block them. I've used that function a lot lol
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 1:16:28 GMT
Love it. What I wanted to say in reality. Ironic. : D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 2:15:33 GMT
Pity, but each to their own.
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Post by peterparker on Sept 1, 2014 5:35:21 GMT
A forum is the sum of its parts.
I felt personally Ras was always trying to shape it into what he wanted it to be and i didnt think it was necessarily a Rovers forum per se
There have been some strong discussions on a couple of threads, but nothing much that needed actual moderation. Its an internet play ground and often an exaggeration of tone of voice
, If you dont like the few political threads steer clear, you have a whole forum to have fun and post irreverent humour on
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Sept 1, 2014 6:01:32 GMT
Great shame, though I had a feeling it was coming, especially after MC Chisel went too. Very difficult to post as normal as a mod. Everything you say is scrutinised.
Thanks for all your hard work Ras. Don't be a stranger.
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Post by blackthorngas on Sept 1, 2014 6:14:51 GMT
Really sorry to hear Ras felt he had no option but to leave. I want to thank him for what must have been a huge amount of time and effort that it must have taken to create this forum. It filled the void that was left when the original was closed, and on the whole it has been relatively free from the vitriolic bile that pervaded there. Unfortunately there are always people who will over-step the mark, particularly now that it's so easy to sit at a computer keyboard and deliver said bile in relative anonymity (often spur of the moment and ill considered) A plea to remaining mods... Don't leave us! We need this forum.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 6:21:24 GMT
RAS, Thanks for everything you have done to get this forum off the ground. I've always looked forward to your comment and observation. Don't stay away too long.
People that make decisions, people that have strong views, people that stand out and people that make things happen are often criticised and it can wear the "make things happen" guy down. RAS, See you back on here soon.
Personal digs don't really work for me. I wish fans didn't do it.
RAS you can join the ground breaking bus anytime. You could even be the driver or the conductor or just sit at the back quietly!
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Post by Russgas on Sept 1, 2014 6:51:48 GMT
Gutted for Ras that he feels this way,but i totally understand he needs to just take so time out and away from doing this.Hope he returns in the not too distant future. What he has helped to create here is truly unique. Many, many thanks Ras for all your hard work.
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Sept 1, 2014 6:56:24 GMT
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Post by philbemmygas on Sept 1, 2014 6:56:24 GMT
Disappointed that Ras has felt the need to step down, without his efforts many of us wouldn't have a place to get our thoughts on the club/team out in the open.
Was talking to another former staunch member of the OF on Saturday, prefers to use twitter these days as you can more easily identify the posters, less anonymity for snipers.
Come back soon Ras
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 1, 2014 7:02:24 GMT
2 minutes of fame and he's gone! I think his target was to make the bbc news.
Congratulations on reaching your target @ras.
Happy retirement.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 7:05:35 GMT
The negativity, constant sniping, moaning and general lack of understanding is driving very good users away.
Many thanks to you all for your contributions.
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Post by peterparker on Sept 1, 2014 7:05:56 GMT
It's a forum, don't take it too seriously.
I have said numerous times I have argued with posters over donkey's years and I have never had a problem with anyone I have ever met.
I feel Ras was trying to mould Gaschat constantly and you just can't do that with the entity of a messageboard,. It's organic and it will be what it's posters make it.
These have been serious times at BRFC and you kind of have to expect serious discussion. I don't feel it has overtaken this forum and I don't feel there is much that has needed moderating from what I see and as I say if anyone doesn't like it feel free to post whatever banter and irreverent humour. There is no limit to what you can do here.
Hopefully Ras will come back refreshed and a break away from it he may see he was trying to hard.
That's just my opinion though
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 1, 2014 7:16:21 GMT
If you need a hand moderating then I could help out as am on here quite a bit.
Not sure if I am the right character or not though as can be very opinionated on particular subjects.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 7:17:24 GMT
It's a forum, don't take it too seriously. I have said numerous times I have argued with posters over donkey's years and I have never had a problem with anyone I have ever met. I feel Ras was trying to mould Gaschat constantly and you just can't do that with the entity of a messageboard,. It's organic and it will be what it's posters make it. These have been serious times at BRFC and you kind of have to expect serious discussion. I don't feel it has overtaken this forum and I don't feel there is much that has needed moderating from what I see and as I say if anyone doesn't like it feel free to post whatever banter and irreverent humour. There is no limit to what you can do here. Hopefully Ras will come back refreshed and a break away from it he may see he was trying to hard. That's just my opinion though Maybe there nothing wrong and not much moderating needed because of the hard work of Ras and the Mods. More modding goes on than people realize so that posts don't have to be altered etc. Furthermore, some posters accept and understand the difficult position we are in. Others want to just post every thought that comes into their head and get very publicly upset when asked not to.
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Post by peterparker on Sept 1, 2014 7:24:34 GMT
It's a forum, don't take it too seriously. I have said numerous times I have argued with posters over donkey's years and I have never had a problem with anyone I have ever met. I feel Ras was trying to mould Gaschat constantly and you just can't do that with the entity of a messageboard,. It's organic and it will be what it's posters make it. These have been serious times at BRFC and you kind of have to expect serious discussion. I don't feel it has overtaken this forum and I don't feel there is much that has needed moderating from what I see and as I say if anyone doesn't like it feel free to post whatever banter and irreverent humour. There is no limit to what you can do here. Hopefully Ras will come back refreshed and a break away from it he may see he was trying to hard. That's just my opinion though Maybe there nothing wrong and not much moderating needed because of the hard work of Ras and the Mods. More modding goes on than people realize so that posts don't have to be altered etc. Furthermore, some posters accept and understand the difficult position we are in. Others want to just post every thought that comes into their head and get very publicly upset when asked not to. I'm a mod on the other forum, but I try and touch nothing
Most of us are grown up. Sometimes things get a bit strong, but as I say never take it to seriously and take it with a pinch of salt.
As I say and only my opinion. Ras was trying to bend and shape his 'baby' all the time to what he ideally wanted it to be. That is impossible and I can understand how that would tire someone out.
Hopefully a break will do him good and a refreshed Ras can just participate
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Post by Captain Jayho on Sept 1, 2014 8:07:25 GMT
I hope he comes back and posts on this forum again. As someone who read a lot but didn't post here that much I always looked out for his posts for their humour as well as their football content! Big loss to this forum if you ask me and hope he changes his mind at some stage.
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